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Re: Name Changes
« Reply #15 on: June 21, 2020, 09:17:34 am »
I heard they're changing the Cream Of Wheat guy too, what was wrong with him?
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Re: Name Changes
« Reply #16 on: June 21, 2020, 09:57:04 am »
Since changing on certain brands won't change history.However , it might start healing the country getting people to start talking about the issues and starting to resolve them instead of fighting or violence towards people. :rainbow: :rose: :peace: :wave:
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« Reply #17 on: June 21, 2020, 10:09:07 am »
The point may be to change the perception of race relations in the future not the present but that just may be deception for the masses as the real goal maybe to garner as much control in opposition to the oppressive system.
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Re: Name Changes
« Reply #18 on: June 21, 2020, 10:28:22 am »
Name change isn't gong to do anything. There's an article about the family of the woman who portrayed Aunt Jemima that is against the move to change brand.

https://www.wistv.com/2020/06/20/family-woman-who-portrayed-aunt-jemima-opposes-move-change-brand/

I read somewhere that when they change that the "family" will also lose the royalty payments. Bet they did not see that one coming.

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Re: Name Changes
« Reply #19 on: June 21, 2020, 01:21:33 pm »
If people cant find the products in the store cos of the name changes and their sales go down,they will regret doing it maybe.

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Re: Name Changes
« Reply #20 on: June 21, 2020, 02:25:51 pm »
And who even knows if Mrs. Butterworth is black or white or something else? She's no color, or potentially any color depending on the contents inside. Does Mrs. Butterworth make other flavors?


When we were younger (and when Mrs. Butterworth's came in glass bottles) we used to rinse and save the bottles and then paint them as art/decoration projects. It wasn't a race thing, but I always just naturally painted my bottles as an old white grandma figure. In my mind she was the grandma cartoon character from Looney Toons who had Tweety Bird and Sylvester as pets.

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Re: Name Changes
« Reply #21 on: June 21, 2020, 03:53:22 pm »
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Who opened this can of worms???  Stuff that is so natural to us from our younger years is being exploited to make us feel that we are being "racial"  when we purchase our favorite brands!! Your Bad!

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 Cream of Wheat hot cereal, said it is initiating “an immediate review” of its packaging. A smiling black chef holding a bowl of cereal has appeared on Cream of Wheat packaging and in ads since at least 1918, according to the company's web site. (AP Photo/Donald King)


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Mrs. Butterworth's is an American brand of syrups and pancake mixes owned by ConAgra Foods. The syrups came in distinctive bottles shaped in the form of a matronly woman, Mrs. Butterworth. The syrup was introduced in 1961. In 1999, the original glass bottles began to be replaced with plastic bottles.

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Mars Inc. says it's also reviewing its Uncle Ben's rice brand.

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Colgate-Palmolive Co. said Thursday it is working with its Chinese partner, Hawley & Hazel Chemical Co., on changes to its Darkie brand toothpaste.

The toothpaste, which is popular in Asia, was called Darkie when it was first introduced in the 1930s. Packages featured a drawing of a minstrel singer in blackface with a wide smile; a Hawey & Hazel executive came up with the logo after visiting the United States and seeing Al Jolson perform. The Chinese name on the box translated to “black man toothpaste.”


read this article here:

https://abcnews.go.com/Business/wireStory/cream-wheat-mrs-butterworth-confront-race-packaging-71329161

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Re: Name Changes
« Reply #22 on: June 21, 2020, 04:15:17 pm »
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Who opened this can of worms???  Stuff that is so natural to us from our younger years is being exploited to make us feel that we are being "racial"  when we purchase our favorite brands!! Your Bad!

See Pic:

 Cream of Wheat hot cereal, said it is initiating “an immediate review” of its packaging. A smiling black chef holding a bowl of cereal has appeared on Cream of Wheat packaging and in ads since at least 1918, according to the company's web site. (AP Photo/Donald King)


and

Mrs. Butterworth's is an American brand of syrups and pancake mixes owned by ConAgra Foods. The syrups came in distinctive bottles shaped in the form of a matronly woman, Mrs. Butterworth. The syrup was introduced in 1961. In 1999, the original glass bottles began to be replaced with plastic bottles.

and

Mars Inc. says it's also reviewing its Uncle Ben's rice brand.

and
Colgate-Palmolive Co. said Thursday it is working with its Chinese partner, Hawley & Hazel Chemical Co., on changes to its Darkie brand toothpaste.

The toothpaste, which is popular in Asia, was called Darkie when it was first introduced in the 1930s. Packages featured a drawing of a minstrel singer in blackface with a wide smile; a Hawey & Hazel executive came up with the logo after visiting the United States and seeing Al Jolson perform. The Chinese name on the box translated to “black man toothpaste.”


read this article here:

https://abcnews.go.com/Business/wireStory/cream-wheat-mrs-butterworth-confront-race-packaging-71329161


It does not make ME feel racial.  I don't know how this all got started. People are stupid and can make anything and everything into something racial if they try. None of these products were meant as anything racial. People are just snowflakes. It does seem like every day some new company is coming up saying they need to change their name because some idiot is offended by it. ::)

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Re: Name Changes
« Reply #23 on: June 21, 2020, 04:16:57 pm »
And who even knows if Mrs. Butterworth is black or white or something else? She's no color, or potentially any color depending on the contents inside. Does Mrs. Butterworth make other flavors?


When we were younger (and when Mrs. Butterworth's came in glass bottles) we used to rinse and save the bottles and then paint them as art/decoration projects. It wasn't a race thing, but I always just naturally painted my bottles as an old white grandma figure. In my mind she was the grandma cartoon character from Looney Toons who had Tweety Bird and Sylvester as pets.

Never thought about painting them. But that is a good idea and would be fun.  The bottles were more roundish then as well.  I could see the bottle being painted to look like that little grandma. haha

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Re: Name Changes
« Reply #24 on: June 22, 2020, 07:26:53 am »
And who even knows if Mrs. Butterworth is black or white or something else? She's no color, or potentially any color depending on the contents inside. Does Mrs. Butterworth make other flavors?


When we were younger (and when Mrs. Butterworth's came in glass bottles) we used to rinse and save the bottles and then paint them as art/decoration projects. It wasn't a race thing, but I always just naturally painted my bottles as an old white grandma figure. In my mind she was the grandma cartoon character from Looney Toons who had Tweety Bird and Sylvester as pets.

Oh yeah! I can totally see Granny in Mrs. Butterworth.  :)

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Re: Name Changes
« Reply #25 on: June 22, 2020, 07:30:34 am »
Colgate-Palmolive Co. said Thursday it is working with its Chinese partner, Hawley & Hazel Chemical Co., on changes to its Darkie brand toothpaste.

The toothpaste, which is popular in Asia, was called Darkie when it was first introduced in the 1930s. Packages featured a drawing of a minstrel singer in blackface with a wide smile; a Hawey & Hazel executive came up with the logo after visiting the United States and seeing Al Jolson perform. The Chinese name on the box translated to “black man toothpaste.”

I'm white, so I have no right to say whether these things are offensive or not to people of color. BUT... Darkie toothpaste!? That's pretty bad!  :(

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Re: Name Changes
« Reply #26 on: June 22, 2020, 07:43:38 am »
I don't know about Eskimo Pie, but the others....

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Re: Name Changes
« Reply #27 on: June 22, 2020, 09:34:39 am »
Colgate-Palmolive Co. said Thursday it is working with its Chinese partner, Hawley & Hazel Chemical Co., on changes to its Darkie brand toothpaste.

The toothpaste, which is popular in Asia, was called Darkie when it was first introduced in the 1930s. Packages featured a drawing of a minstrel singer in blackface with a wide smile; a Hawey & Hazel executive came up with the logo after visiting the United States and seeing Al Jolson perform. The Chinese name on the box translated to “black man toothpaste.”

I'm white, so I have no right to say whether these things are offensive or not to people of color. BUT... Darkie toothpaste!? That's pretty bad!  :(

Not really. It is not sold in the US.  You can't get all butthurt because a word in another language can be made to mean something different in your language.  I honestly would not have thought about a toothpaste being called "Darkie".  It would never have entered my mind it could or would mean anything.  Just a name.  Guess black people gonna be peed off about people naming their dog "Blackie" now.  One of the most popular names for dogs. ::)

Did you know that in come countries doing the "thumbs up" which people do all the time in the US is considered offensive? So are we suppose to say you can't do that any more because somebody somewhere might be offended up it?  Guess what pretty much everything you do will offend somebody.  If you want to know what it means google it. 

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Re: Name Changes
« Reply #28 on: June 22, 2020, 11:00:49 am »
Colgate-Palmolive Co. said Thursday it is working with its Chinese partner, Hawley & Hazel Chemical Co., on changes to its Darkie brand toothpaste.

The toothpaste, which is popular in Asia, was called Darkie when it was first introduced in the 1930s. Packages featured a drawing of a minstrel singer in blackface with a wide smile; a Hawey & Hazel executive came up with the logo after visiting the United States and seeing Al Jolson perform. The Chinese name on the box translated to “black man toothpaste.”

I'm white, so I have no right to say whether these things are offensive or not to people of color. BUT... Darkie toothpaste!? That's pretty bad!  :(

Not really. It is not sold in the US.  You can't get all butthurt because a word in another language can be made to mean something different in your language.  I honestly would not have thought about a toothpaste being called "Darkie".  It would never have entered my mind it could or would mean anything.  Just a name.  Guess black people gonna be peed off about people naming their dog "Blackie" now.  One of the most popular names for dogs. ::)

Did you know that in come countries doing the "thumbs up" which people do all the time in the US is considered offensive? So are we suppose to say you can't do that any more because somebody somewhere might be offended up it?  Guess what pretty much everything you do will offend somebody.  If you want to know what it means google it.

What difference does it make where it's sold? It's not a bad "translation", and it doesn't make it less offensive. The original logo is literally a black man and it's called Darkie. There's no ambiguity there and completely different than a thumbs up with different meanings.

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Re: Name Changes
« Reply #29 on: June 22, 2020, 11:34:20 am »
Colgate-Palmolive Co. said Thursday it is working with its Chinese partner, Hawley & Hazel Chemical Co., on changes to its Darkie brand toothpaste.

The toothpaste, which is popular in Asia, was called Darkie when it was first introduced in the 1930s. Packages featured a drawing of a minstrel singer in blackface with a wide smile; a Hawey & Hazel executive came up with the logo after visiting the United States and seeing Al Jolson perform. The Chinese name on the box translated to “black man toothpaste.”

I'm white, so I have no right to say whether these things are offensive or not to people of color. BUT... Darkie toothpaste!? That's pretty bad!  :(

Not really. It is not sold in the US.  You can't get all butthurt because a word in another language can be made to mean something different in your language.  I honestly would not have thought about a toothpaste being called "Darkie".  It would never have entered my mind it could or would mean anything.  Just a name.  Guess black people gonna be peed off about people naming their dog "Blackie" now.  One of the most popular names for dogs. ::)

Did you know that in come countries doing the "thumbs up" which people do all the time in the US is considered offensive? So are we suppose to say you can't do that any more because somebody somewhere might be offended up it?  Guess what pretty much everything you do will offend somebody.  If you want to know what it means google it.

What difference does it make where it's sold? It's not a bad "translation", and it doesn't make it less offensive. The original logo is literally a black man and it's called Darkie. There's no ambiguity there and completely different than a thumbs up with different meanings.

It makes a lot of difference where it is sold. Did you even read what I said?  Words mean different things in different languages. No it is not completely different.  The thumbs up is an example of something else that in one country means something good and in another supposedly means something bad.  Just like in spanish the word "negro" means the color black.  That is THEIR WORD for the color black. You can be offended all you want and you can choose to be offended by everything coming and going. I chose not to.  Makes life a whole lot happier. lol

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