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Re: Christmas Tree
« Reply #45 on: November 10, 2019, 05:56:48 am »
Right after Thanksgiving... :turkey:

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Re: Christmas Tree
« Reply #46 on: November 10, 2019, 07:25:19 am »
Congrats on getting a topic about Christmas to 3 pages without a visit from the Grinch. Most impressive!
Because the roots of the Xmas tree began with pagan beliefs,i am sure Jesus and his father dont approve of that just like you wouldnt wanna be associated with cow manure.

Just like the cross is pagan.Why would i wanna wear a replica around my neck that stood for a loved one of mine being tortured and killed?
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Re: Christmas Tree
« Reply #47 on: November 10, 2019, 07:36:59 am »
I had to order a new tree this year, as the other sheds needles horribly... I should get it on November 12, & on November 13 it is going to be set up.  Normally we put it up right after Thanksgiving.

I'm over the outrage of Christmas decorations up & out in the stores early every year... to each their own. We've all just become economic units to buy stuff & keep the economy moving, anyway.  I do like all the Christmas lights so it's a win-win if they go up early.. tis the season & all that, although it was 90' here yesterday :/

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Re: Christmas Tree
« Reply #48 on: November 10, 2019, 07:47:27 am »
Wow lots of people like to put there trees up early like my son and his family they put theirs up right after Halloween I myself usually wait until after Thanksgiving.

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Re: Christmas Tree
« Reply #49 on: November 10, 2019, 09:18:47 am »
Anyone can buy plants yr round and enjoy the beauty of Gods creation in their home without associating it with the pagan belief it has something to do with Jesus BD.

NONE of the traditions of Xmas has anything to do with Jesus BD.If God would have wanted us to know day he was born a man he would have told us in his word as he did Passover.Its simply NOT there.

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Re: Christmas Tree
« Reply #50 on: November 11, 2019, 01:08:09 pm »
Congrats on getting a topic about Christmas to 3 pages without a visit from the Grinch. Most impressive!
Because the roots of the Xmas tree began with pagan beliefs,i am sure Jesus and his father dont approve of that just like you wouldnt wanna be associated with cow manure.

Just like the cross is pagan.Why would i wanna wear a replica around my neck that stood for a loved one of mine being tortured and killed?

I'll tell you what I told Falcon9 waaaaaaay back in the 'good old days', Lester. The Christmas Tree has nothing to do paganism.  Many believe the custom started with Martin Luther, who chose an evergreen tree to symbolize Eternal Life in Christ, topped with a Star representing the Star leading the Magi to the infant Christ. ( In before Lester gives his weird JW take on the star being a satanic construct. LOL!)

And as I told old Buzzard9, even if pagans used trees in their practices, they can't put a 'copyright' on God's creation. The Christmas Tree is used with the symbolism we Christians choose to pour into it.

The Cross is a symbol of triumph. You may just as well ask 'why does Christ retain the marks of His crucifixion?' It's something we're meant to be reminded of. 'He did this for you.' 

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Re: Christmas Tree
« Reply #51 on: November 11, 2019, 01:09:47 pm »
Congrats on getting a topic about Christmas to 3 pages without a visit from the Grinch. Most impressive!

lol

Looks like I jinxed you. Sorry. lol

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Re: Christmas Tree
« Reply #52 on: November 11, 2019, 01:26:15 pm »
Anyone can buy plants yr round and enjoy the beauty of Gods creation in their home without associating it with the pagan belief it has something to do with Jesus BD.

NONE of the traditions of Xmas has anything to do with Jesus BD.If God would have wanted us to know day he was born a man he would have told us in his word as he did Passover.Its simply NOT there.

Again, I'm going to remind you of a passage I told you years ago at this point.

Romans 14:5-6
" In the same way, some think one day is more holy than another day, while others think every day is alike. You should each be fully convinced that whichever day you choose is acceptable. Those who worship the Lord on a special day do it to honor him."

What do you do with this verse? I sincerely would like to know- though I imagine the Watchtower has long since discarded it from it's teachings.

The Apostle Paul CLEARLY states under inspiration of the Holy Spirit, that those who choose to honor Christ in a special holiday are clearly allowed. It doesn't need to be 'Commanded' in scripture to be a viable holiday to the Lord.



And later in verses 10-13,

 "So why do you condemn another believer? Why do you look down on another believer? Remember, we will all stand before the judgment seat of God. For the Scriptures say,

“‘As surely as I live,’ says the Lord,
‘every knee will bend to me,
    and every tongue will declare allegiance to God.’”

 Yes, each of us will give a personal account to God. So let’s stop condemning each other. "

Paul also points out that we must not think any LESS of a brother who observes or does not observe a special holy day. Which means (as I've pointed out to you countless times) you don't NEED to celebrate any Christian holiday, but you also have no right to condemn anyone who does. (Y'know, like you routinely calling us pagans, Babylonians & basically Satan)

You & the Watchtower are in serious error and I hope for your sake you realize this before you need explain yourself to a Higher Authority. 

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Re: Christmas Tree
« Reply #53 on: November 11, 2019, 04:06:46 pm »
Anyone can buy plants yr round and enjoy the beauty of Gods creation in their home without associating it with the pagan belief it has something to do with Jesus BD.

NONE of the traditions of Xmas has anything to do with Jesus BD.If God would have wanted us to know day he was born a man he would have told us in his word as he did Passover.Its simply NOT there.

Again, I'm going to remind you of a passage I told you years ago at this point.

Romans 14:5-6
" In the same way, some think one day is more holy than another day, while others think every day is alike. You should each be fully convinced that whichever day you choose is acceptable. Those who worship the Lord on a special day do it to honor him."

What do you do with this verse? I sincerely would like to know- though I imagine the Watchtower has long since discarded it from it's teachings.

The Apostle Paul CLEARLY states under inspiration of the Holy Spirit, that those who choose to honor Christ in a special holiday are clearly allowed. It doesn't need to be 'Commanded' in scripture to be a viable holiday to the Lord.



And later in verses 10-13,

 "So why do you condemn another believer? Why do you look down on another believer? Remember, we will all stand before the judgment seat of God. For the Scriptures say,

“‘As surely as I live,’ says the Lord,
‘every knee will bend to me,
    and every tongue will declare allegiance to God.’”

 Yes, each of us will give a personal account to God. So let’s stop condemning each other. "

Paul also points out that we must not think any LESS of a brother who observes or does not observe a special holy day. Which means (as I've pointed out to you countless times) you don't NEED to celebrate any Christian holiday, but you also have no right to condemn anyone who does. (Y'know, like you routinely calling us pagans, Babylonians & basically Satan)

You & the Watchtower are in serious error and I hope for your sake you realize this before you need explain yourself to a Higher Authority.
It is you who misses the point.Jehovah says,quit touching what is unclean.If celebrations etc began with false gods,God makes it clear how he feels about it.I will not give my glory to other gods Jehovah says.

Jehovah is the author of the bible.There is ABSOLUTELY nothing commanded to memorialize Jesus BD.Just his death.

It is fine to worship on ANY day of the yr,just do what is acceptable to God.When you mix pagan with truth it is a NONO in his eyes.You cant serve 2 masters says bible.

Aaron tried to use worship of Jehovah with false gods.God was displeased with him for doing that.Moses spoke up for him.God listened.But he knowingly knew of his error but still tried to make it look like he was pleasing Jehovah.Aaron gave in to peer pressure like so many do in this world.Fear of man is a snare.

Many Jews answered to a higher authority who you do not even know what his name is.

If you cant discern what is going on in this world,preaching in 240 lands,96000 congrgations,Millions of hrs taught....trust me...you will answer to Jehovah who is the higher authority.

And then you ask,why do you condemn what we believe?Right before your eyes you know what Jesus said RE false worship.He had NO problem saying they were from their father the devil.

Rev 4:11 explains why ONLY Jehovah deserves to be served.We dont exist if it were not for him.Plus all the good thngs in llife he gave us....biggest one being watching his son tortured and dying on behalf of us.

Even a fool can ask the question,what the hec does Santa,xmas tress,mistletoe originate with Jesus birth?Nothing in bible.Its all manmade and satanic.Pagan.Jehovah doesnt share what Satans rule is.The bible saysSatan blinds many and turns himself into an angel of light.He does it with all these pagan celebrations.And then you ask why?LOL!

Seriously,how can one say they read bible everyday and NOT understand what they are reading?You are wasting your time...go read a jokebook.The heart condition is what matters and yours is in outer space.

All your beliefs are NOWHERES in the bible.You sure you arent reading another book?

Some good advice for you.Bow your head and humble yourself before Jehovah and ask him to help you understand his word.He will know if you mean it.

The earth stands forever and righteous will dwell in it.God didnt create the earth for nothing.He made it to be inhabited.And yet Satan blinds many RE heaven and hell after death.144000 do go to heaven and rule with Jesus,but the greater crowd will live on earth.

If you cant comprehend any of this,seriously quit wasting your time reading whatever you are reading.

Are the ND born again xtians fulfilling Math 24:14?LOLLLLLLLL!!!Or for that matter the rest of Babylon the Great?

The apostle Paul thought he was doing the right thing,killing Xtians.Until Jesus blinded and humbled him.So again dont give me this you can do whatever you want or celebrate whatever you want.There are Gods rulz in the bible.Just like Christendom claims to teach from it but teach manmade/Satanic doctrines.

Ill say it again,how does 1 say they read bible everyday and their beliefs are NOT in it?LOL!!

BTW TY for helping us give a good witness.

Lemme add,there is nothing wrong bowing our heads and thanking God for sending Jesus to earth to eventually die for us.It wasnt his birth,or resurrection that ransomed mankind from Adamic sin.It was his death.

And to those of you that think putting up decorations of a nativity scene.....go read 2nd chapter of Mathew and see what really happened.And Jehovah made Jesus king of kings and Lord of Lords.Do you think they want him to be depicted as a poor babe in a cowstall?

Go read the bible and see how Jesus is suffering on a torture stake and cries out to his father,"why have you forsaken me?"The agony he must have been in.

Its tough to get on everyones case here.Satan has blinded many and many hold fast to their traditions.But there are some that wanna know the truth.Jehovah reads everyones heart and knows the type of person we are.
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Re: Christmas Tree
« Reply #54 on: November 11, 2019, 07:19:26 pm »
I dont think she needs your help to be a fool JJ RE your reply jinxing CG.

Oh,cos u locked your topic up where u spoke of my wife,i noticed all these yrs you never spoke of a wife or a lady.Staying married 40 yrs is a lot harder then getting 30 posts.You seem to support what bible says RE gays so ill give u benefit of doubt there unless you have a closet <tee hee>

So u feel sorry for my son and wife?Well i would expect that from someone like you that gnashes their teeth on the outside from being a loser.I am sure by now even FC realizes you are quite "the crybaby"!

Maybe u could hook up with CG...u seem to share the same foolishness.Lets find out JJ.Do you think animals go to heaven?<LOL>
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Re: Christmas Tree
« Reply #55 on: November 11, 2019, 07:29:28 pm »
Congrats on getting a topic about Christmas to 3 pages without a visit from the Grinch. Most impressive!
Because the roots of the Xmas tree began with pagan beliefs,i am sure Jesus and his father dont approve of that just like you wouldnt wanna be associated with cow manure.

Just like the cross is pagan.Why would i wanna wear a replica around my neck that stood for a loved one of mine being tortured and killed?

I'll tell you what I told Falcon9 waaaaaaay back in the 'good old days', Lester. The Christmas Tree has nothing to do paganism.  Many believe the custom started with Martin Luther, who chose an evergreen tree to symbolize Eternal Life in Christ, topped with a Star representing the Star leading the Magi to the infant Christ. ( In before Lester gives his weird JW take on the star being a satanic construct. LOL!)

And as I told old Buzzard9, even if pagans used trees in their practices, they can't put a 'copyright' on God's creation. The Christmas Tree is used with the symbolism we Christians choose to pour into it.

The Cross is a symbol of triumph. You may just as well ask 'why does Christ retain the marks of His crucifixion?' It's something we're meant to be reminded of. 'He did this for you.'
I dont know this and im not interested in looking it up,But if Xmas tree started with Martin Luther...there it is.Manmade BS and doctrine.NOT biblical.TY JJ for clearing that up.

And all one has to see is in Math 2nd that the star took astronomers to Jerusalem first to confront murderous Herod.Then it went to Bethlehem.What the hec ru reading?Even a fool could discern that.

You think you can bring down Jehovahs organization?Be careful you are close to touching his eyeball.

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Re: Christmas Tree
« Reply #56 on: November 12, 2019, 06:14:23 am »
Congrats on getting a topic about Christmas to 3 pages without a visit from the Grinch. Most impressive!

lol

Looks like I jinxed you. Sorry. lol

It's okay.  Was just a matter of time anyway.  He can't help himself.  He is obsessed with me and my comments as well as yours.  If he truly did not care what I said then he would not have to attack everything I say. Or seek out my comments and reply to them thumping how he is right and I am wrong.  Hard to say you are correct when you dismiss over half the Bible and say well we don't believe that.  Not believing is not going to keep it from happening. 

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Re: Christmas Tree
« Reply #57 on: November 12, 2019, 10:51:04 am »

Just like the cross is pagan.Why would i wanna wear a replica around my neck that stood for a loved one of mine being tortured and killed?


Because that isn't what it stands for ... or perhaps better stated, that isn't all that it stands for.







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Re: Christmas Tree
« Reply #58 on: November 12, 2019, 11:33:50 am »
Congrats on getting a topic about Christmas to 3 pages without a visit from the Grinch. Most impressive!

lol

Looks like I jinxed you. Sorry. lol

It's okay.  Was just a matter of time anyway.  He can't help himself.  He is obsessed with me and my comments as well as yours.  If he truly did not care what I said then he would not have to attack everything I say. Or seek out my comments and reply to them thumping how he is right and I am wrong.  Hard to say you are correct when you dismiss over half the Bible and say well we don't believe that.  Not believing is not going to keep it from happening.
I agree.It was a matter of time before JJ came in and instigated.And its a matter of time before you CG instigate talking in other posts RE us.

You dont listen.I told you id rather witness to a deaf,dumb and blind person.You only fit dumb...LOL!!

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Re: Christmas Tree
« Reply #59 on: November 12, 2019, 11:40:45 am »

Just like the cross is pagan.Why would i wanna wear a replica around my neck that stood for a loved one of mine being tortured and killed?


Because that isn't what it stands for ... or perhaps better stated, that isn't all that it stands for.



John 4:24 New International Version
God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in the Spirit and in truth."

You dont need a good luck charm IOW to worship

Again something that originated with pagan gods.Quit touching the unclean thing says Jehovah.Again read John 4:24
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