Has hitch been banned....again....yet?

[Drutts0643]

So lets summarize the past- oh, lets just limit it to the last 3 pages:

Thomas worshiped Jesus as God having seen Him in the Resurrected flesh

Jesus accepted Thomas worship as God, proving He is equal with God the Father.

God should be referred to as Our Father, per Jesus instruction.

Christians understand that God allows Himself to be identified in Scripture with terms other than 'Jehovah'

God condones, allows and created special holidays to be observed in the Bible

Soul Sleep is not a scriptural doctrine in light of 1 Peter 3: 18- 21

The Watchtower has tried countless times to predict the End Of The World- both under founder Charles Taze Russell and his successors- and failed miserably time after time. ( a feat that would cause most to question the movement's validity as "God's Organisation")

The JWs don't allow their members to read literature that contradicts the Watchtower programming for fear they'll ask unanswerable questions that'll expose their heresy.

The JWs believe in 'shunning' people who leave their 'organisation' for fear they may convince others to do likewise.

John The Apostle warned us in 2 John of people who would lead us astray by claiming things beyond Christ's teaching and not believing in the Resurrection- and that we should not listen to them or encourage them in any way.

Has hitch/Drutts/Donna/LesterThePester/EricMyChild/GomerPyle or whatever he's calling himself on any given day actually addressed these points I've made in any clear and compelling way?

I ask, because folks seem so concerned about this topic, but don't seem to have gleaned anything edifying in any way. Have I not made myself clear?   

You certainly have a lot of requests for someone that sent in a zillion reports to FC to get us banned.

Suppose you were successful <we know you werent>How would you sleep at night not hearing from us again?

Its a waste to answer you anymore RE stuff u have asked cos i have answered you and you are set in your answers no matter what i say.

I have no prob to agree to disagree with you because of how u ask.You dont ask to wanna learn.You ask to debate.As i told u,why do u waste your time as u claim to read bible?Your doctrines are in LALA land.

What i dont appreciate about you is you are a liar.You make us sound like so many things that couldnt be furthur from the truth.Again its like discussing the bible with you.You are set in your ways.

Why dont you go to 1 assembly,convention or just 1 meeting of JWs and see they have the identifying quality Jesus spoke of......love among themselves worldwide.

Seriously to win the debate <as u see it>not me is all that matters?And then to see in your mind Hitch and his staff still here frustrate you.Before you win you have to lose.

I dont wanna touch much on the bible stuff,so tell me who resurrected Jesus?You see Jesus was born twice.You see he died to prove he was mortal.Jehovah is alpha and omega.That is more then enuff to see they are NOT equal.Then there are intangibles.Jesus saying father is my God and greater then I.Jesus NEVER rivaling Jehovah.Jesus resurrected in spirit and NOT recognized.Man you are really blind and u cant accept it.

So send in more reports what can i tell you.That seems to work as a sedative to you.You lie you are leaving.We proved u wrong then u get even by saying we stalk.We are ALWAYS 1 step ahead of you and u cant handle it.We know u signed on few Xs a day with not caring to earn to ck on us...LOL!!

Then u try to get other JWs on your side when u have NO use for them.Seriously JJ...Grow up.

I will be sure to put my check in the mail to you.

I dedicate this song to you...based on the title.

Your doctrines clearly in LaLa land........https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/questions/jesus-body/
https://youtu.be/PVVkJI_2hog

Go read how Russia has closed down the JWs and persecuted them to the point the UN was getting involved <Not that they are doing anything about it>Prophecy in Daniel RE King of the north being fulfilled.

Satan is quite angry and knows his time is short.The touching of Jehovahs eyeball will soon come into play.

We obey Jesus words.We were taught free......give free.

IC U need a few more posts to make 30.RU gonna tell us you are refreshing batteries etc and bid us GB for a few weeks?Also how many reports ru up to now with FC?I really need a good laugh.Betcha he doesnt answer...LOL!

[Drutts0643]

You make me laugh.You ask,show me where JWs are mentioned in bible?

Show me where Xmas,Easter,Halloween,the trinity are in the bible.

Faithful men of God were witnesses.Many saw the reward they would receive for their love and faith of God.

[Donnamarg323]

You make me laugh.You ask,show me where JWs are mentioned in bible?

Show me where Xmas,Easter,Halloween,the trinity are in the bible.

Faithful men of God were witnesses.Many saw the reward they would receive for their love and faith of God.

So u would sleep soundly if we were gone?LOL,thats why in an almost 3 week period you were signing on with no earnings going up.Obsessed with what we had to say no doubt.

Using the words propaganda and cult towards JWs doesnt exactly  sound like you are complimenting them.

John 2:18-22 so Jesus resurrected himself?LOL!!The bible clearly tells us Jehovah resurrected him.

Col 1:15...so Jesus wasnt born?LOL

Eccl 9:5 clearly speaks of condition of dead as well as what God told Adam RE death and Jesus spoke of  Lazarus before he resurrected him.

Yes Jesus was mortal cos he was born and died......Jehovah has NO beginning or ending.

Clearly Jesus was resurrected in the spirit NOT in the flesh.What the hec RU reading?

And your Babylonish sect is fulfilling Math 24:14?LOL!!!!

If people paid 1000s for your teachings,it would be to FINALLY shut you up!!!

Now get your 30 posts and tell us you are gonna R&R.This time i will keep a diary of it to show you are a liar.You wanna remind us you will be here every month to refute us......we can keep track also what an obsessive instigator UR as well.

I have a good idea.Remember how stores would do contests by having the public count how many jelly beans are in the jar?Lets do one with how many reports you have sent into FC so far.Few months ago it was 47.Thats everybodys clue.

[JediJohnnie]

So lets summarize the past- oh, lets just limit it to the last 3 pages:

Thomas worshiped Jesus as God having seen Him in the Resurrected flesh

Jesus accepted Thomas worship as God, proving He is equal with God the Father.

God should be referred to as Our Father, per Jesus instruction.

Christians understand that God allows Himself to be identified in Scripture with terms other than 'Jehovah'

God condones, allows and created special holidays to be observed in the Bible

Soul Sleep is not a scriptural doctrine in light of 1 Peter 3: 18- 21

The Watchtower has tried countless times to predict the End Of The World- both under founder Charles Taze Russell and his successors- and failed miserably time after time. ( a feat that would cause most to question the movement's validity as "God's Organisation")

The JWs don't allow their members to read literature that contradicts the Watchtower programming for fear they'll ask unanswerable questions that'll expose their heresy.

The JWs believe in 'shunning' people who leave their 'organisation' for fear they may convince others to do likewise.

John The Apostle warned us in 2 John of people who would lead us astray by claiming things beyond Christ's teaching and not believing in the Resurrection- and that we should not listen to them or encourage them in any way.

Has hitch/Drutts/Donna/LesterThePester/EricMyChild/GomerPyle or whatever he's calling himself on any given day actually addressed these points I've made in any clear and compelling way?

I ask, because folks seem so concerned about this topic, but don't seem to have gleaned anything edifying in any way. Have I not made myself clear?   

You certainly have a lot of requests for someone that sent in a zillion reports to FC to get us banned.

Suppose you were successful <we know you werent>How would you sleep at night not hearing from us again?

Its a waste to answer you anymore RE stuff u have asked cos i have answered you and you are set in your answers no matter what i say.

I have no prob to agree to disagree with you because of how u ask.You dont ask to wanna learn.You ask to debate.As i told u,why do u waste your time as u claim to read bible?Your doctrines are in LALA land.

What i dont appreciate about you is you are a liar.You make us sound like so many things that couldnt be furthur from the truth.Again its like discussing the bible with you.You are set in your ways.

Why dont you go to 1 assembly,convention or just 1 meeting of JWs and see they have the identifying quality Jesus spoke of......love among themselves worldwide.

Seriously to win the debate <as u see it>not me is all that matters?And then to see in your mind Hitch and his staff still here frustrate you.Before you win you have to lose.

I dont wanna touch much on the bible stuff,so tell me who resurrected Jesus?You see Jesus was born twice.You see he died to prove he was mortal.Jehovah is alpha and omega.That is more then enuff to see they are NOT equal.Then there are intangibles.Jesus saying father is my God and greater then I.Jesus NEVER rivaling Jehovah.Jesus resurrected in spirit and NOT recognized.Man you are really blind and u cant accept it.

So send in more reports what can i tell you.That seems to work as a sedative to you.You lie you are leaving.We proved u wrong then u get even by saying we stalk.We are ALWAYS 1 step ahead of you and u cant handle it.We know u signed on few Xs a day with not caring to earn to ck on us...LOL!!

Then u try to get other JWs on your side when u have NO use for them.Seriously JJ...Grow up.

I will be sure to put my check in the mail to you.

I dedicate this song to you...based on the title.

Your doctrines clearly in LaLa land........https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/questions/jesus-body/
https://youtu.be/PVVkJI_2hog

Go read how Russia has closed down the JWs and persecuted them to the point the UN was getting involved <Not that they are doing anything about it>Prophecy in Daniel RE King of the north being fulfilled.

Satan is quite angry and knows his time is short.The touching of Jehovahs eyeball will soon come into play.

We obey Jesus words.We were taught free......give free.

IC U need a few more posts to make 30.RU gonna tell us you are refreshing batteries etc and bid us GB for a few weeks?Also how many reports ru up to now with FC?I really need a good laugh.Betcha he doesnt answer...LOL!

Again, I give a well prepared and thought out presentation of why the Watchtower is scriptural poison and you run right back to hiding behind JW.Org and making your silly little snide remarks.

Your JW tract still doesn't explain the question of how do you KNOW that it was Christ that appeared to His apostles? Since you believe that Satan can make a star (lol) certainly he could've created a body (but not a body,a 'spirit creature?') that looked like (but didn't REALLY look like) Jesus to fool them all?

Again, it's a confounding & confusing mess of heresy you're playing with, with eternity at stake. How hard is it to understand Christ was raised to life in the body He was born with?? Why else would He still retain the scars and marks of his crucifixion? Why would He play 'Guess who this is' with His disciples? Your theology doesn't make a lick of sense.

[JediJohnnie]

You make me laugh.You ask,show me where JWs are mentioned in bible?

Show me where Xmas,Easter,Halloween,the trinity are in the bible.

Faithful men of God were witnesses.Many saw the reward they would receive for their love and faith of God.

Read Romans 14.  Again, Paul says having a holiday to God is allowed (God had holidays in the OT) and the Watchtower says they're from Babylon. Who am I gonna listen to? Spirit inspired Paul, or heretical Watchtower? Not a tough choice in the least.

Have you not read Isaiah 9:6 which lays out the trinity in stark detail in one verse? Go back and read it again and tell me why Isaiah called Jesus "Everlasting Father, Mighty God & Wonderful Councilor?"

[JediJohnnie]

I'll cut out 90% of this post's disconcerting portion where Lester The Pester's Stalker obsession with me is on full display.

Using the words propaganda and cult towards JWs doesnt exactly  sound like you are complimenting them.

The JWs are being fed a lie. That doesn't make them 'bad people'. It means that for whatever reason they want to believe whatever heresy the Watchtower teaches. In most cases it's a fairy tale existence where you 'sleep' when you die, and don't need to answer for your wrong doing.

If I may be so bold, I think the reason YOU stick with it, is because you're one of those hard headed old rascals that can never admit he was wrong. You were sold a bill of goods which I've proven time & again. Paul was able to put his past mistakes behind him and know the Truth. You could still do the same. 

John 2:18-22 so Jesus resurrected himself?LOL!!The bible clearly tells us Jehovah resurrected him.

Well, then what do you do with John 2? Jesus was 'only kidding' when He said 'In Three Days I will raise it up?'

Col 1:15...so Jesus wasnt born?LOL

Jesus was born, not created. There's the difference

Eccl 9:5 clearly speaks of condition of dead as well as what God told Adam RE death and Jesus spoke of  Lazarus before he resurrected him.

Eccl 9:5 is a strange passage to use to defend 'Soul Sleep'. Solomon is basically saying 'Enjoy life here on earth while you still can, because all you accomplish on earth will be forgotten by everyone else after you've died.'

God told Adam his body would return to the dust from whence it was made.

Already been through this with you over Lazarus. Jesus used Sleep as a metaphor several times in the bible. Even His Disciples didn't understand without explanation. (Jesus came right out and told them Lazarus was dead) But it's only a metaphor, because for Jesus death doesn't really exist. Luke 20:38 "He is not the God of the dead, but of the living, for to him all are alive.”

Yes Jesus was mortal cos he was born and died......Jehovah has NO beginning or ending.

You're gonna have to explain why God sent Jesus to die a horrible agonizing death then. Because by your theology Jesus was an abject failure. He came, preached, didn't die for our sins and didn't raise His body back to life, thus not proving His victory over Death in the Resurrection.

Clearly Jesus was resurrected in the spirit NOT in the flesh.What the hec RU reading?

If He was only Resurrected in the Spirit, why did He tell His Disciples to touch Him to prove He wasn't a Ghost?

Oh, that's right, according to C.T Russell, His body 'disappeared' from the grave and He conjured up a new body, kinda like the old body, but looking different to fool them into thinking He was raised. Your theology reduces the Son of God to a mischievous trickster. Disgraceful.

Blind!

[JediJohnnie]

So much for Lester 'ending' the topic. I'm not even gone for the month, and he already had 3 replies ready. I'm still guessing he'll be up to 6 replies after I'm gone. 

[JediJohnnie]

So u would sleep soundly if we were gone?LOL,thats why in an almost 3 week period you were signing on with no earnings going up.Obsessed with what we had to say no doubt.

LOL This is so pathetic. This from a guy whose sole purpose in coming here, is not to earn, but proselytize his false gospel for months after being banned. Who can't keep from replying to me for 24 hours, while I take weeks off at a time- and he has the unmitigated gall to accuse me of being obsessed.
Hypocrisy at it's finest.

[Donnamarg323]

I wouldnt let you balance my checkbook.

You said thank you to the Linder on 11/18.Over 3 weeks went by there was peace without you.You signed on to FC at least 30X not earning and with no posts till your stomach must have burst that your reports to FC were dust in the wind and on 12/11 you instigated with us.

A proven liar for ALLLLLLLLLLL to see.

God hates liars.Did u know Satan was the father of the lie?And YOUR god!!!

Hitch has another supporter that just checked in without any posts and kept tabs secretly.The forum dates are all there.Your pants are on fire LOL!!!

[santa7]

Wow.  This is one long drawn out biblical, jw, christian posting.  Guess I have to start at the beginning of it to see where it all began instead of reading the last page's posts.

[Donnamarg323]

So u would sleep soundly if we were gone?LOL,thats why in an almost 3 week period you were signing on with no earnings going up.Obsessed with what we had to say no doubt.

LOL This is so pathetic. This from a guy whose sole purpose in coming here, is not to earn, but proselytize his false gospel for months after being banned. Who can't keep from replying to me for 24 hours, while I take weeks off at a time- and he has the unmitigated gall to accuse me of being obsessed.
Hypocrisy at it's finest.

Even with his last post hes in denial.And i am sure he DOESNT sleep.How do we know?We have seen him on quite early in the morning,not earning but checking no doubt what WE had to say.And then he says we are obsessed.11/18 to 12/11 backs up what we say.Peace until he cant take it anymore knowing we are still here....and then he instigates with an old post of ours.His gospel is rubbish like who he really is.

[Donnamarg323]

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Re: Has hitch been banned....again....yet?
« Reply #109 on: November 18, 2019, 01:19:04 pm »
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Just popping back in to thank you for your support! Much appreciated.

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I will put forum on alert NOW how peace will set in while UR gone.And if a FC moderator reads this i hope they might finally see the truth too.


And hey, if any of you want to defend the truth of the bible in my absence while I refresh the old batteries, it's always appreciated. Maybe not by hitch though! lol

[Donnamarg323]

Over 3 weeks go by and he realizes the support staff of hitch are alive and well....and then he blows up taking an old post and instigating.....


Re: Has hitch been banned....again....yet?
« Reply #110 on: December 11, 2019, 06:42:41 pm »
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Quote from: Drutts0643 on November 16, 2019, 06:28:47 pm


Yes. We believe in Jesus, who said: “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.”
Eh. But you don't believe in the Triune God of the bible. The facts that Jesus is equal to the Father in essence, thereby making His death the sacrifice for our sins. The fact that He was raised to life in the same body that was crucified. In short, you don't believe in the Jesus Christ of scripture.

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However, we take Jesus at his word when he said: “The Father is greater than I am.” (John 14:28) So we do not worship Jesus, as we do not believe that he is Almighty God.

The Father IS greater than Jesus--in ROLE, not essence. I've used the illustration countless times for you over the years, Lester. The POTUS is greater than I am--in ROLE, not essence. We're both flesh & blood. Jesus IS Almighty God.

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Thomas knew this.


No, he called Jesus "My Lord and My God", clearly proving Watchtower theology to be false.

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Its NOT only America Satan rulz.The entire world under him.

An oversimplification. Satan rules the people that follow him (either intentionally or otherwise) Unfortunately, that IS a lot of people....

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Holidays etc began with pagan gods.Quit touching the unclean says Jehovah.

Again this is wholly & patently false. God set up a plethora of Holy days for observance (not the least of which, the Sabbath) such as Passover &  Pentecost- both of which the Apostles observed in the NT.

Again, you cannot point to any Christian observance of holiday as pagan in origin, unless you subscribe to outright superstition.

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You dont dispute me.....you dispute ther bible.I only reference what it says.You twist it.You dont discern Math 24:14 for yrs Gods people obeying Jesus to preach the kingdom.You tell me of another that is doing it as organized.If you cant discern divine intervention your heart shows its true colors.
The term Jehovah Witness is not in the bible. Nor is "God's Organization". Sadly, with their denying several doctrines that are critical to obtaining Salvation, I would say their 'Organisation' has a decidedly different founder.



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So take your leave of absence.....send FC another zillion posts reporting and come back when you are ready to inSTINKgate!!You are like clockwork.



I will put forum on alert NOW how peace will set in while UR gone.And if a FC moderator reads this i hope they might finally see the truth too.




Heeeeeeeeeereeeeeeeesssss Johnnie!!!!!!!!!
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[Donnamarg323]

Our Perry Mason past just buried him!!!!

There is nothing more satisfying then suffering injustice from someone and being able to prove they are the offspring of vipers.

[JediJohnnie]

So again we see hitch is an obsessive stalker. (yawn)

How about you refute some of the above points I made that blow JW theology to atoms?

But I won't hold my breath. He's too busy with a pen and paper trying to track how many times I log on to FC. Typical JW argument. Can't answer the questions? Obscure with foolishness.

Take the L, Lester. Take the L.