Has hitch been banned....again....yet?

[Donnamarg323]

Amen Drutts

The resurrected Jesus, with a nail wound mark on his hands, appears in human form to the apostle Thomas and other disciples      
After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh or spirit


The Bible’s answer
The Bible says that Jesus “was put to death in the flesh but made alive [resurrected] in the spirit.”​—1 Peter 3:​18; Acts 13:34; 1 Corinthians 15:45; 2 Corinthians 5:​16.

[UGetPaid]

You dont dispute me.....you dispute ther bible.I only reference what it says.You twist it.

Damn it, Drutts! You just made me spit my drink all over my laptop!

[Drutts0643]

You dont dispute me.....you dispute ther bible.I only reference what it says.You twist it.

Damn it, Drutts! You just made me spit my drink all over my laptop!

I guess we get around Uget......who knows,maybe it will work better lol!

[linderlizzie]

I only ask because, despite not posting since the first week of June, his latest alias 'ericborn1980' is still in some of the threads. If he's rightly banned again, they should be removed.

For whatever it's worth, I'm totally on your side JediJohnnie. I don't like people who just bash your posts and try to make you feel bad.

[JediJohnnie]

Just popping back in to thank you for your support! Much appreciated.

I will put forum on alert NOW how peace will set in while UR gone.And if a FC moderator reads this i hope they might finally see the truth too.

And hey, if any of you want to defend the truth of the bible in my absence while I refresh the old batteries, it's always appreciated. Maybe not by hitch though! lol

[JediJohnnie]

Yes. We believe in Jesus, who said: “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.”

Eh. But you don't believe in the Triune God of the bible. The facts that Jesus is equal to the Father in essence, thereby making His death the sacrifice for our sins. The fact that He was raised to life in the same body that was crucified. In short, you don't believe in the Jesus Christ of scripture. 

However, we take Jesus at his word when he said: “The Father is greater than I am.” (John 14:28) So we do not worship Jesus, as we do not believe that he is Almighty God.

The Father IS greater than Jesus--in ROLE, not essence. I've used the illustration countless times for you over the years, Lester. The POTUS is greater than I am--in ROLE, not essence. We're both flesh & blood. Jesus IS Almighty God.

Thomas knew this.

No, he called Jesus "My Lord and My God", clearly proving Watchtower theology to be false.

Its NOT only America Satan rulz.The entire world under him.

An oversimplification. Satan rules the people that follow him (either intentionally or otherwise) Unfortunately, that IS a lot of people....

Holidays etc began with pagan gods.Quit touching the unclean says Jehovah.

Again this is wholly & patently false. God set up a plethora of Holy days for observance (not the least of which, the Sabbath) such as Passover &  Pentecost- both of which the Apostles observed in the NT.

Again, you cannot point to any Christian observance of holiday as pagan in origin, unless you subscribe to outright superstition.

You dont dispute me.....you dispute ther bible.I only reference what it says.You twist it.You dont discern Math 24:14 for yrs Gods people obeying Jesus to preach the kingdom.You tell me of another that is doing it as organized.If you cant discern divine intervention your heart shows its true colors.

The term Jehovah Witness is not in the bible. Nor is "God's Organization". Sadly, with their denying several doctrines that are critical to obtaining Salvation, I would say their 'Organisation' has a decidedly different founder. 

So take your leave of absence.....send FC another zillion posts reporting and come back when you are ready to inSTINKgate!!You are like clockwork.



I will put forum on alert NOW how peace will set in while UR gone.And if a FC moderator reads this i hope they might finally see the truth too.

Heeeeeeeeeereeeeeeeesssss Johnnie!!!!!!!!!

[JediJohnnie]

And again you dont even know Gods name.

I'm gonna isolate this subject, because I'm so sick of the "You don't even know his NAME!" nonsense that JWs spit out.

Name me one verse where God commands the people to address Him as Jehovah. In fact, you were not allowed to speak God's name in those days out of respect. (You may even find some Jews these days that type "G-D" because they want to respect His 'name' by not typing out the full term)

God told Moses to tell the people "I Am" sent him. Shouldn't it be 'I Am's Witnesses?'

I don't like getting too technical but 'The Tetragrammaton' is the unpronounceable 4 letter name of God (YHWH) in the bible. It's typically pronounced ' Yahweh' when given vowels. Other names are often used such as Adonai. There is no strictly set-in-stone way to address the Lord God Almighty in scripture. It was the superstition of the Watchtower who feared that some other non-existent 'god' would be receiving their prayers.

Again Isaiah 44:6

  “This is what the Lord says—
    Israel’s King and Redeemer, the Lord Almighty:
I am the first and I am the last;
    apart from me there is no God.

Don't be so superstitious. There are no other 'gods' to pray to. None exist.

And finally, I contend we're not MEANT to call God by His name.
Romans 8:15
"So you have not received a spirit that makes you fearful slaves. Instead, you received God’s Spirit when he adopted you as his own children. Now we call him, “Abba, Father.”

We're not distant slaves & acolytes. We are sons & daughters of God by adoption.
 
Christ taught us to pray to Him by saying 'Our FATHER'. We are to address God as 'Our Father' by Jesus direct instructions. God knows who we are addressing without having to use "HIS NAME".

And again, who talks to a judge by saying "Hey Joe?" They are referred to as "YOUR HONOR". Or a policeman by "Hey Ralph" & not "Officer" so & so. There's a distinct  lack of respect by thinking you're on a first name basis with God Almighty.
 

[Donnamarg323]

13 Indeed, who will harm you if you become zealous for what is good?+ 14 But even if you should suffer for the sake of righteousness, you are happy.+ However, do not fear what they fear,* nor be disturbed.+ 15 But sanctify the Christ as Lord in your hearts, always ready to make a defense before everyone who demands of you a reason for the hope you have, but doing so with a mild temper+ and deep respect.+

16 Maintain a good conscience,+ so that in whatever way you are spoken against, those who speak against you may be put to shame+ because of your good conduct as followers of Christ.+ 17 For it is better to suffer because you are doing good,+ if it is God’s will to allow it, than because you are doing evil.+ 18 For Christ died once for all time for sins,+ a righteous person for unrighteous ones,+ in order to lead you to God.+ He was put to death in the flesh+ but made alive in the spirit.+ 19 And in this state he went and preached to the spirits in prison,+ 20 who had formerly been disobedient when God was patiently waiting* in Noah’s day,+ while the ark was being constructed,+ in which a few people, that is, eight souls,* were carried safely through the water.+

21 Baptism, which corresponds to this, is also now saving you (not by the removing of the filth of the flesh, but by the request to God for a good conscience),+ through the resurrection of Jesus Christ. 22 He is at God’s right hand,+ for he went to heaven, and angels and authorities and powers were made subject to him.+

1st Peter 13-22

[Donnamarg323]

Isiah 45:18 For this is what Jehovah says,

The Creator of the heavens,+ the true God,

The One who formed the earth, its Maker who firmly established it,+

Who did not create it simply for nothing,* but formed it to be inhabited:+

“I am Jehovah, and there is no one else.


Math 6 :10 New International Version
your kingdom come, your will be done, on earth as it is in heaven.

Psalm 37:11 Play
11  But the meek will possess the earth,a
And they will find exquisite delight in the abundance of peace.b

Math 24:13 New Living Translation
But the one who endures to the end will be saved.

Good to see this topic now with bible truths.As the previous post RE the scriptures in Peter,this post created for the hope of many using these bible truths.

Psalms 37:29 Aramaic Bible in Plain English
And the righteous ones inherit the Earth and dwell upon it for eternity.

Isiah 12:4  4 And in that day you will say:

“Give thanks to Jehovah, call on his name,

Make his deeds known among the peoples!+

Declare that his name is exalted.+

Pretty clear

Isiah 42:8

 8 I am Jehovah. That is my name;

I give my glory to no one else,*

Nor my praise to graven images.+

Even clearer

[JediJohnnie]

Out of the 3 verses you give as reference, only 1 uses the term Jehovah. The rest were put there by the Watchtower's erroneous translation 'The New World Translation.'
Here's how those other passages read in the KJV:
 
Isaiah 45:18  For thus saith the Lord that created the heavens; God himself that formed the earth and made it; he hath established it, he created it not in vain, he formed it to be inhabited: I am the Lord; and there is none else.

Isaiah 42:8 I am the Lord: that is my name: and my glory will I not give to another, neither my praise to graven images.

Again, how does this prove that God is commanding us to only refer to Him by 'HIS NAME?' And why should I take the Watchtower's word for it, when I have Jesus Christ telling me to refer to God as 'Our Father?'

BTW, I'm sure Donna won't be answering, since Hitch isn't at work anymore at this hour. He'll be using his Drutts account, I'm sure.

[JediJohnnie]

13 Indeed, who will harm you if you become zealous for what is good?+ 14 But even if you should suffer for the sake of righteousness, you are happy.+ However, do not fear what they fear,* nor be disturbed.+ 15 But sanctify the Christ as Lord in your hearts, always ready to make a defense before everyone who demands of you a reason for the hope you have, but doing so with a mild temper+ and deep respect.+

16 Maintain a good conscience,+ so that in whatever way you are spoken against, those who speak against you may be put to shame+ because of your good conduct as followers of Christ.+ 17 For it is better to suffer because you are doing good,+ if it is God’s will to allow it, than because you are doing evil.+ 18 For Christ died once for all time for sins,+ a righteous person for unrighteous ones,+ in order to lead you to God.+ He was put to death in the flesh+ but made alive in the spirit.+ 19 And in this state he went and preached to the spirits in prison,+ 20 who had formerly been disobedient when God was patiently waiting* in Noah’s day,+ while the ark was being constructed,+ in which a few people, that is, eight souls,* were carried safely through the water.+

21 Baptism, which corresponds to this, is also now saving you (not by the removing of the filth of the flesh, but by the request to God for a good conscience),+ through the resurrection of Jesus Christ. 22 He is at God’s right hand,+ for he went to heaven, and angels and authorities and powers were made subject to him.+

1st Peter 13-22

What the heck does ANY of this have to do with my refutation of your points? Is this part of the JW programming? I prove to you there are holidays in the bible and you run and hide behind passages you believe apply to your 'persecution?' We have a real martyr here! (Or drama queen)

[UGetPaid]

And again, who talks to a judge by saying "Hey Joe?" They are referred to as "YOUR HONOR". Or a policeman by "Hey Ralph" & not "Officer" so & so. There's a distinct  lack of respect by thinking you're on a first name basis with God Almighty.

Tangent, but I still need to hit my 30 posts for the month and this reminded me of a very recent event. 


Earlier this week a radio talk show host hung up on an U.S. Congresswoman from Ohio after she got upset with him for calling her "Marsha" (her name) during the call rather than referring to her as Congresswoman "so-and-so". He had referred to her formally a few times previously in the call, but he called her by her first name and she lit into him about being disrespectful. After she said her peace, he gave her a dial tone...

[Drutts0643]

Psalm 83:18 King James Version (KJV)
18 That men may know that thou, whose name alone is Jehovah, art the most high over all the earth.

[Drutts0643]

And again, who talks to a judge by saying "Hey Joe?" They are referred to as "YOUR HONOR". Or a policeman by "Hey Ralph" & not "Officer" so & so. There's a distinct  lack of respect by thinking you're on a first name basis with God Almighty.

Tangent, but I still need to hit my 30 posts for the month and this reminded me of a very recent event. 


Earlier this week a radio talk show host hung up on an U.S. Congresswoman from Ohio after she got upset with him for calling her "Marsha" (her name) during the call rather than referring to her as Congresswoman "so-and-so". He had referred to her formally a few times previously in the call, but he called her by her first name and she lit into him about being disrespectful. After she said her peace, he gave her a dial tone...

When one knows the TRUE Gods name is Jehovah,Jehovah has NO problem being referred to as God,Lord or Father.When one doesnt accept Jehovah as the TRUE God.......

Prov 28:9 New King James Version
One who turns away his ear from hearing the law, Even his prayer is an abomination.

The only benefit you are gonna get is help with your 30 posts.

[NRAJOE]

Who cares?
Why is this topic still going on?