Abortion Ban

[king4cash]

Abortion should be considerd a crime....

[Work2hard]

Pro-choice

[clickers]

Exodus 20:13 King James Version of the Holy Bible: Thou shalt not kill.

[Legslangevan]

Exodus 20:13 King James Version of the Holy Bible: Thou shalt not kill.

Amen

[paints]

The faulty logic comes in when any person other than the woman who is pregnant insists that she must stay pregnant.
Not your body, not your business.

Again, you don't seem to be getting the point that slaughtering an unborn life over convenience is what we're talking about. It's not a personal choice to allow murder, because that body is in the womb. It's still a life being taken. 

If the uterus is not in YOUR body, you have NO say.
 

So basically, by your logic Slavery wasn't a human rights issue either.

"Those slaves are not in YOUR plantation, you have no say."

It sounds pretty much like what you're saying to me.

After the last slaves were freed, women were still property. 
The patriarchal church has tried to keep it that way. 

Seems to me you've got an ax to grind with the Catholic Church. As someone who is not Catholic, this means nothing to me or my argument. My point is that you're not seeing the unborn as a person any more than slave owners saw their slaves as anything more than cattle.

And like slave owners, pro-abortioners don't want the problem of granting their victims humanity for the sake of convenience.

Just like it was easier to see slaves as less then human. Who wants the hassle of actually dealing with hiring workers to be paid and expect fair treatment and conditions? What an inconvenience, Right?

Ever hear of fruit of the poisonous tree? What do you think the Protestant denominations were protesting?

There are misogynists in every denomination.  Pedophiles and rapists too. 

Your analogy doesn't work, because the slave owner didn't carry the slave in their body.  By forcing women to carry to term, when it is not in her best interest, because of your beliefs, you count women as breeders.  Like cattle.  Or womb-slaves. 

Women own their bodies. 

[JediJohnnie]

The faulty logic comes in when any person other than the woman who is pregnant insists that she must stay pregnant.
Not your body, not your business.

Again, you don't seem to be getting the point that slaughtering an unborn life over convenience is what we're talking about. It's not a personal choice to allow murder, because that body is in the womb. It's still a life being taken. 

If the uterus is not in YOUR body, you have NO say.
 

So basically, by your logic Slavery wasn't a human rights issue either.

"Those slaves are not in YOUR plantation, you have no say."

It sounds pretty much like what you're saying to me.

After the last slaves were freed, women were still property. 
The patriarchal church has tried to keep it that way. 

Seems to me you've got an ax to grind with the Catholic Church. As someone who is not Catholic, this means nothing to me or my argument. My point is that you're not seeing the unborn as a person any more than slave owners saw their slaves as anything more than cattle.

And like slave owners, pro-abortioners don't want the problem of granting their victims humanity for the sake of convenience.

Just like it was easier to see slaves as less then human. Who wants the hassle of actually dealing with hiring workers to be paid and expect fair treatment and conditions? What an inconvenience, Right?

Ever hear of fruit of the poisonous tree? What do you think the Protestant denominations were protesting?

There are misogynists in every denomination.  Pedophiles and rapists too. 

Your analogy doesn't work, because the slave owner didn't carry the slave in their body.  By forcing women to carry to term, when it is not in her best interest, because of your beliefs, you count women as breeders.  Like cattle.  Or womb-slaves. 

Women own their bodies. 

The analogy serves, because it's a human rights issue.

Women own their bodies, not the right to kill another body inside them. That's a capitol offence.

This conversation is fruitless, because -try as some of us might- you still can't bring yourself to acknowledge there are situations where a life is being slaughtered from sheer convenience.  Bringing up 5,000 years of the patriarchy is not gonna change the fact that -today- billions of lives are snuffed out in the womb- for no reason other than convenience. That's not acceptable in a civilized society. People need to be responsible for their actions.

[JediJohnnie]

Abortion should be considerd a crime....

To God, it is.

[ericmyladisnow39]

The faulty logic comes in when any person other than the woman who is pregnant insists that she must stay pregnant.
Not your body, not your business.

Again, you don't seem to be getting the point that slaughtering an unborn life over convenience is what we're talking about. It's not a personal choice to allow murder, because that body is in the womb. It's still a life being taken. 

If the uterus is not in YOUR body, you have NO say.
 

So basically, by your logic Slavery wasn't a human rights issue either.

"Those slaves are not in YOUR plantation, you have no say."

It sounds pretty much like what you're saying to me.

After the last slaves were freed, women were still property. 
The patriarchal church has tried to keep it that way. 

Seems to me you've got an ax to grind with the Catholic Church. As someone who is not Catholic, this means nothing to me or my argument. My point is that you're not seeing the unborn as a person any more than slave owners saw their slaves as anything more than cattle.

And like slave owners, pro-abortioners don't want the problem of granting their victims humanity for the sake of convenience.

Just like it was easier to see slaves as less then human. Who wants the hassle of actually dealing with hiring workers to be paid and expect fair treatment and conditions? What an inconvenience, Right?

Ever hear of fruit of the poisonous tree? What do you think the Protestant denominations were protesting?

There are misogynists in every denomination.  Pedophiles and rapists too. 

Your analogy doesn't work, because the slave owner didn't carry the slave in their body.  By forcing women to carry to term, when it is not in her best interest, because of your beliefs, you count women as breeders.  Like cattle.  Or womb-slaves. 

Women own their bodies.

Paints,you say woman own their bodies.What about gays,drunkards and drug addicts?Clearly those 3 are sins against God.What makes abortion any different?

Not looking to debate with you,but God is out of the picture with you and HE views abortion as murder.

If you view the situation to be more important from a womans perspective rather then Gods.....i will accept how you feel and thats that.

[vp44]

Pro abortion. No body business but the woman, man and the doctor. Plain and simple you think abortion is bad then don't have one.

[Kimdud22]

Pro choice. It should be a women's decision what she does with her own body. Coming from one who has been there herself due to personal reasons. Think about how it would be in someone else's shoes? Do I think someone should keep having them due to irresponsibility? Absolutely not.

[UGetPaid]

Do I think someone should keep having them due to irresponsibility? Absolutely not.

Which is exactly why it should not be a blanket statement left solely up to the individual woman's "choice"

[UGetPaid]

Another very interesting (and deeply saddening) take on this topic is reported here.

[1imaginarygirl]

Pro abortion.

Whoa! So you think ALL pregnancies should be terminated!?

[Hammond25]

I dont agree with abortion  its a sin

[paints]

The faulty logic comes in when any person other than the woman who is pregnant insists that she must stay pregnant.
Not your body, not your business.

Again, you don't seem to be getting the point that slaughtering an unborn life over convenience is what we're talking about. It's not a personal choice to allow murder, because that body is in the womb. It's still a life being taken. 

If the uterus is not in YOUR body, you have NO say.
 

So basically, by your logic Slavery wasn't a human rights issue either.

"Those slaves are not in YOUR plantation, you have no say."

It sounds pretty much like what you're saying to me.

After the last slaves were freed, women were still property. 
The patriarchal church has tried to keep it that way. 

Seems to me you've got an ax to grind with the Catholic Church. As someone who is not Catholic, this means nothing to me or my argument. My point is that you're not seeing the unborn as a person any more than slave owners saw their slaves as anything more than cattle.

And like slave owners, pro-abortioners don't want the problem of granting their victims humanity for the sake of convenience.

Just like it was easier to see slaves as less then human. Who wants the hassle of actually dealing with hiring workers to be paid and expect fair treatment and conditions? What an inconvenience, Right?

Ever hear of fruit of the poisonous tree? What do you think the Protestant denominations were protesting?

There are misogynists in every denomination.  Pedophiles and rapists too. 

Your analogy doesn't work, because the slave owner didn't carry the slave in their body.  By forcing women to carry to term, when it is not in her best interest, because of your beliefs, you count women as breeders.  Like cattle.  Or womb-slaves. 

Women own their bodies.

Paints,you say woman own their bodies.What about gays,drunkards and drug addicts?Clearly those 3 are sins against God.What makes abortion any different?

Not looking to debate with you,but God is out of the picture with you and HE views abortion as murder.

If you view the situation to be more important from a womans perspective rather then Gods.....i will accept how you feel and thats that.

It's always interesting when people tell others what God thinks. 

My point is God is available to me,  and I can ask him.   Jesus opened a straight line to God.  For women, too.