Being Fired

[countrygirl12]

Yes I can see your point, that is rather sending out contradictory messages because on the one hand, you want to get rid of the employee, but on the other hand, you don't want rid of them quite yet. I have never known this happen before. When I've worked for a company that wanted rid of somebody, they always called them into the meeting room as soon as all decision makers had arrived. That's it, by 10am, they were gone!

Maybe it's the area I live in.  Idk.  I know of several situations where a person was fired after working their full shift.  Called into the office within 10 minutes of quitting time and fired.  I commit a fire-able offense then do it then.  Don't let me work my shift because my leaving will leave you short handed.  The lack of pay will leave me short handed. 

[countrygirl12]

I haven't gotten fired but I;'m sure they've wanted to a few times!

lol.  I don't know about that.  We have like 7 managers where I work and although any of them can say something to me if MY boss is there he usually handles it.  The other manager will go tell him because it would be his department.  I don't think I have ever done anything that would even remotely be a firing offense.  Although there are times I have wanted to knock a customer's head off.  lol

[bremer51]

I think I'd rather get fired at the end of the day and get one more day of salary.  I would not like it if I went to the trouble of getting ready for work only to be sent home when I arrived. 

[6265AT99]

I say it depends on what day it is - if it's a Monday - yes it's wrong but if it's a Friday, well that's being courteous to the person who is going to be fired by letting them finish out the week.

[aflyingmonkey]

The reason why the employer keeps the person for their shift is because per labor laws they have to pay the employee X number of hours for showing up anyway whether the person works them or not. If the person is getting fired for something minor, for example Attendance issues, they might as well just keep the person for their shift, then the person who may need the money will appreciate it anyway, as will the rest of the staff for not being short handed.   Also, if a person gets fired, the employer has to have their last check in hand to give them at the time of firing, so they have to calculate how long the person will be working in advance.  This is why sometimes instead of direct firing for an offense, the employer puts them out for unpaid investigatory suspension.  Most of the time it is so the accounting department can figure out their last check.

[countrygirl12]

 

I say it depends on what day it is - if it's a Monday - yes it's wrong but if it's a Friday, well that's being courteous to the person who is going to be fired by letting them finish out the week.

It's not courteous unless the person wants to stay and finish the day.  If you know you are going to fire me then do it.  Let me go on home.  Don't make me work only because you will be short handed by sending me home because nobody else is going to cover for me.

[countrygirl12]

The reason why the employer keeps the person for their shift is because per labor laws they have to pay the employee X number of hours for showing up anyway whether the person works them or not. If the person is getting fired for something minor, for example Attendance issues, they might as well just keep the person for their shift, then the person who may need the money will appreciate it anyway, as will the rest of the staff for not being short handed.   Also, if a person gets fired, the employer has to have their last check in hand to give them at the time of firing, so they have to calculate how long the person will be working in advance.  This is why sometimes instead of direct firing for an offense, the employer puts them out for unpaid investigatory suspension.  Most of the time it is so the accounting department can figure out their last check.

Not if you are fired.  Yes if I go in and it is slow and they send me home they have to pay me for 4 hours but only if I make them.  If you don't call them on it and they can get away with it then they won't do it.  You also do not have to have the last check in hand at the time of firing.  They do have to pay you everything they owe you with in so much time but not at the time of firing.  Some people do stupid stuff and get fired on the spot (or use to) and there is no way to have a check in hand.

On my job now if it is slow and they are sending people home early they just have you stay 4 hours even if you aren't doing anything because they have to pay you anyway for at least 4 hours if you show up.

[hemapreethaa]

I dont know why they do that way. but there is definitely a reason why they do like that. otherwise they wouldnt do that.

I ahve seen a boss making sure they employee finishes all the work for more than a week tehn fired

[BlackSheepNY]

I agree with you.  If there's cause to fire an employee, it's normally done immediately.  I've never been employed anywhere where they didn't let the person go right away.  Then again, the world is a different place today and they'll suck every last drop from you before they get rid of you.

[vickysue]

I never worked a person through the day knowing I was going to let them go. Normal thing was to call them into the office and told them then.  There is never a good time to have to tell a person they are being let go. But there has been a couple of time a person was fired on the spot. both were for stealing.

[aflyingmonkey]

The reason why the employer keeps the person for their shift is because per labor laws they have to pay the employee X number of hours for showing up anyway whether the person works them or not. If the person is getting fired for something minor, for example Attendance issues, they might as well just keep the person for their shift, then the person who may need the money will appreciate it anyway, as will the rest of the staff for not being short handed.   Also, if a person gets fired, the employer has to have their last check in hand to give them at the time of firing, so they have to calculate how long the person will be working in advance.  This is why sometimes instead of direct firing for an offense, the employer puts them out for unpaid investigatory suspension.  Most of the time it is so the accounting department can figure out their last check.

Not if you are fired.  Yes if I go in and it is slow and they send me home they have to pay me for 4 hours but only if I make them.  If you don't call them on it and they can get away with it then they won't do it.  You also do not have to have the last check in hand at the time of firing.  They do have to pay you everything they owe you with in so much time but not at the time of firing.  Some people do stupid stuff and get fired on the spot (or use to) and there is no way to have a check in hand.

On my job now if it is slow and they are sending people home early they just have you stay 4 hours even if you aren't doing anything because they have to pay you anyway for at least 4 hours if you show up.

This varies by state.  In California this is how it is, California has very strict labor laws if you know your rights.   I should have mentioned that, "in California this is how it is".  If you fire someone no matter what the deal is, they need to cut them a check right then, if you don't get a final check it is easy to file a complaint with the Labor Standards Board, you can do it online.

California Labor Law:  When the Employer Terminates the Employee
If the employment relationship ends because the employer terminates the employee, lays them off, or otherwise lets them go, the employee's final paycheck must be provided to them on their last day of work. (Labor Code § 201.) The employer is subject to various penalties if it waits until the next regularly scheduled payday to pay the employee their final wages. (Labor Code § 203.)

[sherryinutah]

As long as the individual is getting paid for that day - I think most people would terminate the employee at the end of the day.  Maybe it should depend on WHY that individual is losing their job.  If the employee can't be trusted they should probably leave as soon as it's decided to fire them.

 

[countrygirl12]

I agree with you.  If there's cause to fire an employee, it's normally done immediately.  I've never been employed anywhere where they didn't let the person go right away.  Then again, the world is a different place today and they'll suck every last drop from you before they get rid of you.

Exactly. 

Aflyingmonkey- Yes, I guess it is different by state.  I think where I am it is the next pay day but you have to be paid all you are owed.  So it would be by the end of the week. 

 

As long as the individual is getting paid for that day - I think most people would terminate the employee at the end of the day.  Maybe it should depend on WHY that individual is losing their job.  If the employee can't be trusted they should probably leave as soon as it's decided to fire them.

Idk.  In my current job if I go in Saturday and they are going to fire me then tell me when I get there or call me and tell me not to come into work.  Do NOT make me work ALL DAY Saturday and then call me in the office and fire me.  That is not fair to me.  Give me the choice.  You are fired after today.  You can work today or you can go on home.  Well, screw you.  I am going home. Good luck getting someone to come in and cover my shift.  No, they will have me work because they need me.  Idk.  To me that just isn't right.

[yikes77]

The one job I was let go from was on a Friday afternoon and without warning.  It was a big shock to the system but thankfully managed to find a new job within a few weeks.

[squirrelgirl44]

I think there are way too many variables to even think about. I have never heard of someone being fired right when they get to work, although when I was laid off from a job many years ago they told me about 45 minutes after I got there. I was annoyed that they hadn't just called me and told me to not bother coming in.

At my current employer people are usually let go around lunch or afternoon.