Please explain Noah's Ark to me ...

[Bridget_Elaine]

I believe it!!  You all believe what you want and I believe what I want.... we'll all find out in the end what was true, right, false, fiction..... etc!!!

 

[bschumacher]

God's up there on a cloud laughing his *bleep* off at all the nincompoops digging around the Middle East, looking for that damned Ark!!!

[liljp617]

the Bible says to the logical and rational the cross makes them foolish...I Corinthians 1:18 I am sorry I dont argue scripture..to me it stands and always will stand on its on.  My prayer is that you can look beyond the logical and rational and see the beauty that our God and Saviour has for you.  You see a follower of Christ has nothing to lose and all to gain..but those who dont, have it all to lose...and hey if I am wrong when my life comes to an end...I have lost nothing...but If you come to your end and find out that I am and the millions who know its true...look what you have lost....All of you have a great day and a wonderful eternity.

Did you really just try to use Pascal's Wager in a discussion about religion?  =/ Come on.  Regardless of beliefs, ministers are typically pretty intelligent people from my experiences with them...surely you can recognize the problem with your assertion -- that you have everything to gain and nothing to lose.

Pascal's Wager has been torn to shreds by numerous theists, atheists, and philosophers since its inception.  It is a fairly silly 'wager' that no longer retains any logical legitimacy.  I'm really sorry if that logic has been the foundation of your faith for so many years; it's very poor to say the least.

YOURE ONE OF 'SATAN'S DEMONS"!
RofLmfao
 

I've had my fair share of those comments directed at me.  Wouldn't be a first if that was the next reply.

Who here has watched Zeitgeist... and what did you think of it?

A couple words:  Tin foil hat + video camera = stupid

I believe it!!  You all believe what you want and I believe what I want.... we'll all find out in the end what was true, right, false, fiction..... etc!!!

 

Except people rarely follow this.  If you do, I commend you (that includes not indoctrinating your kids ).  The overwhelming majority of people are incapable of keeping it to themselves.

[eSineM]

So you don't think there's any possibility Christianity is based off an Egyptian Myth..? Then what's your theory?

[liljp617]

So you don't think there's any possibility Christianity is based off an Egyptian Myth..? Then what's your theory?

Christianity is based off a great number of cultural traditions, myths, and beliefs.  Egyptian is one of them, so yes. There's hardly anything (if any at all) in Christianity that is a unique idea.

This is one of the things brought up often...

http://www.aldokkan.com/religion/creation.htm

[eSineM]

So what part of Zeitgeist did you think was made up...?

[liljp617]

Well that wasn't the most generic Christian apologist argument I've ever seen 

[jasoneaton]

As far as dog breed go, at least, most of them are very modern, you take a single type of dog and breed for particualr qualities, eventually you get enough divergence for a "new" breed. But really it's just an accumulation of particular traits selected by humans.

Natural selection works pretty much the same way, except that things like death and the ability to find a willing mate do the choosing, not humans.

Personally, I don't feel that evolution and Christianity are mutually exclusive. Evolution is just a part of God's plan, and the mysteriousness of his ways.

[5patti5]

Religion is man's attempt at God.. Religion is when you follow rules or traditions set by man. Catholocism, protestants, baptist, muslim, hindu.. ect... these are all examples or religion.. but if you know GOD and follow him and ONLY him and his WORD that is not a religion.   Also.. Noah's Ark.. Was two of each KIND of animal  not two of each speices.. so there were not all different speices of dogs, cats ect.. just one male, one female..  There are websites out there but I don't think I am allowed to give the link.. so just search up Ken Ham and Genesis..

[jbugg86]

Personally I believe in the bible however some of the translation by man could have gotten messed up not to mention figuring out what is to be taken literally and metaphorically. A million people can read the bible, but all have different conclusions as to what they get from it. So in a sense I somewhat agree about the "Blind" faith thing. 

[mrsyama]

The whole point to understanding is FAITH, you have to believe to understand. 

[Falconer02]

God wants you to go to him and that is your choice but if you are searching for knowledge without understanding that you will never be able to figure out all this without God wanting you to than you are wasting your time.

...what?

Your never going to know and that is how God wants it.

This quote is why intelligent people mock religion.

I always get a kick out of when something great happens to some extremist, they're all "PRAISE THE LORD! PROOF HE BLESSES HIS BELIEVERS! I AM RIGHT!!!" but when something awful happens, they're all "it's all in gods plan! This was supposed to happen! It's all clear to me!" It's really sad.

I really wish people would step out of their little ugly cramped box and face the facts. Reality's rough, but you're making it worse by telling lies to get dumb peoples hopes up. Do some simple research and face it. The ark isn't real. It never happened.

Delusion - a fixed false belief that is resistant to reason or confrontation with actual fact

[ipayitforward]

It is amazing to me how scientists can say things are so many billions of years old...I heard that they carbon dated a rock that was formed in the eruption of Mt. Saint Hellens and dated it as billions of years old!

Dave D

[ipayitforward]

I wish I could post a link here, but do a search for The Institute for Creation Research if you are open minded about the debate...They bring up some good questions about the impossibility of evolution.

[Falconer02]

It is amazing to me how scientists can say things are so many billions of years old...I heard that they carbon dated a rock that was formed in the eruption of Mt. Saint Hellens and dated it as billions of years old!

Radiocarbon dating is a bit unreliable in the science field. That, and it is VERY difficult to date anything like ash or rock from a recent volcano. But if you're referring to that old outdated research about the hawaiian volcano and how they miscalculated the rocks from it...that research was done in 1913. I've been in this argument before many times. Science has evolved immensily since then and they've perfected different date-determination methods since then.

I wish I could post a link here, but do a search for The Institute for Creation Research if you are open minded about the debate...They bring up some good questions about the impossibility of evolution.

I hate to sound rude, but "Creationist Research" and "Open Minded" cannot go in the same sentence. I've seen PLENTY of BS from creationist wackos. I've read a few books and laughed (the best one-- the UNIVERSE is 6,000 years old from a guy who has a masters in astronomy. HTF did he get THAT!?). I've even seen Islamic people try to show 'proof' of how we came from mud and water. It's pretty funny what happens when you try to make scientific sense of old religious texts. I'm sure you've seen that cartoon--

SCIENTIFIC METHOD-- *holding microscope* "Here's the facts! What conclusions can we draw from them?"
RELIGIOUS METHOD-- *holding bible* "Here's the conclusion! What facts can we find to support it!?"