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Re: Tip Jars
« Reply #30 on: August 11, 2014, 03:51:04 pm »
I am also curious as to if the same people who are okay with the tip jars would be as okay with it if they knew the employees did not get the tips but the owner or manager kept it.

Years ago I worked on a job where we served a meal and the people who were in the party (close to 100 of them) and they left a tip.  The manager took the money and kept it for herself.  We never saw any of it.  I have heard that happens with these jars also.

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« Reply #31 on: August 11, 2014, 04:28:48 pm »
I don't believe in tip jars either.  However I believe that Waiters/waitresses deserve to be tipped if their service was good because they are paid at a much lower hourly rate. I paid for college by working three jobs and one of them was as a waiter. It was hard work and a lot of people are just plain rude...not taking into consideration that a waiter  /waitress is making less, taking care of four to five tables at crappy second shift hours and on holidays.  Yes they could choose to work elsewhere but patrons could also choose to be more human.  I will put money into tip jars if someone gives exceptional service but it is not something that should be expected if you are making minimum wage.

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« Reply #32 on: August 11, 2014, 04:56:32 pm »
I can't get too upset over a tip jar sitting on a counter somewhere. You aren't forced into doing something against your will.

I am not upset. lol.  I just think it is stupid.  Just curious as to what others thought.

By that logic, you can also stop tipping your Pizza Guy delivery. They are expected to be tipped everytime, but they are paid to deliever pizza... Are you kidding me??? They don't need tip at all

Guess what happens to your pizza when you call that place again...

Tip Jars are fine because they offer to support the workers who work there and also provide you to get rid of your change... For me, sometimes I don't want to carry change around because I don't want to hear coins grinding up on my phone/keys (happen way to much when train commuting to college). If they offer good and continual service then why not give them change? It's better to have a tip Jar and earn some money then to not have one and not reap any monetary gain.



You seem to have totally MISSED the point.  I did not say anything about delivery guys (which they are already paid extra for delivering and I don't use delivery so don't jump on me for not tipping them) nor did I say not to tip a wait staff.  Go back and read what I said.  I said places like gas stations, fast food restaurants, and other jobs where the staff are paid min wage at the least.  But then have a "tip jar" begging for more money.  I do not feel like I should be to tip a gas station attendant for standing behind the counter and taking my money for a drink I purchase inside the store.  They are standing there doing basically nothing.

As for change - it does not bother me.  So, no I am not going to give them my change for doing a job they are already being paid by their boss to do.  And they are reaping monetary gain.  Their boss gives them a pay check every week.

I (which every one can have their own opinion) just think it is ridiculous for a person to expect every customer to "TIP" them to do the job they are already being paid to do.  Using your logic we can take it a step farther.  Are you going to give you nurse, doctor, the person who checks you in, the person who takes you ins card or money when you pay a TIP because they are pretty much serving you.  They are waiting on you.  When you go to the grocery store or walmart are you going to TIP the cashier?  He or she is ringing up your order.   And back on the pizza thing - I always pick it up myself.  I have never used delivery.  The people who work there are PAID to make the pizzas.  If they are not happy with the pay then find a better paying job.  If you have NO education and NO skills then be happy you have the job you have.  It is beyond foolish to expect every customer who comes in to pick up their pizza to give them an extra TIP for making the pizza.



Of course you didn't say anything about delivery guy, but as you said I am voicing my own opinion on that matter just like everyone... Its a forum, you expect some other perspective not just a total agreement of the OP post ... But missed the point? Your point also applies to delivery guys... It's almost the exact thing, is it not? Delivery guys are paid minimum wages but why does everyone have the notion to tip them? Their boss pays for them right?

As for tip jars, it's not voluntary to give money to them if you don't want to... And they are not in a dogeza mode asking for money either.... If you want to give money or not is totally your call... I think the most annoying way to tip someone is that they "force" you to. Like a guy comes out of nowhere and helps you put your grocery in your car when you don't need help

My opinion is that Tip Jars are just there if you want to support the service they provide.. Not for begging or that they expect you to... If you went to the store and they give you a great service and experience, wouldn't you want to support them even a little bit? For the people who work at Dunkin donuts at the morning, servicing a lot of people in the morning, wouldn't you at times want to give change to them for working their butt off? You might think it's stupid for gas attendants to have tip jars, but do you know that they have to pump your gas when it's freezing or hot out for w/e their shift is? Maybe you could argue it's dumb for self servicing gas pumps to have tip jars but it's grueling to pump someone's gas when you have to stand outside attending cars out in the August Summer and February Winter.

Btw I can't believe you didn't mention the bathroom tip jar... Now that's service that makes no sense

Pizza delivery guys are NOT the same thing.  I am not going to argue with you.  And FYI I have not seen a full service where they pump the gas for you in 20 years.  I pump my own gas so NO I am not going to tip some one for handing me the receipt I had to walk in and get because they are too lazy to change the empty tape roll in the pump station.  I know it is voluntary to put money in the jar.  And no I am not going to give them my change for doing their job.  I work my butt off on my job as well.  Nobody gives me their change for doing my job. lol.

Can you please tell me why pizza delivery isn't the same? You keep saying it's not the same but your not giving me any reason to why it's not... You ask for delivery, you expect to tip.. Everytime you ask for pizza delivery no matter what brand, you have to tip or else you get spit on your pizza (isn't that kind of force you too).. Considering how you view "tip jars" the description of it is same as pizza delivery.

See that's what the information that was missing at beginning, if you actually pump you own gas and stuff then don't tip. They don't deserve it... But the way you mention your original post you seem to put every tip jar as a nuisance.. Some people deserve it and some don't.. If you work full time, you technically do have a tip system. Bonuses. If you work at a company for years, then don't you get bonuses from your job? Bonuses are motivation for people to continue working. People who use tip jars, usually are just part time workers... They don't have bonuses or benefits. And some people can't get full time jobs because they could be a teenage who lack experience and skill for higher ended jobs
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Re: Tip Jars
« Reply #33 on: August 11, 2014, 05:01:39 pm »
Either way, from the comments, I see some people feel like I do and others, obviously people with plenty of money lol, have no issues giving their change.

I am also curious as to if the same people who are okay with the tip jars would be as okay with it if they knew the employees did not get the tips but the owner or manager kept it.

I thought this was a forum (a place where people can have different opinions on things) but apparently I guess it's suppose to be a yes train post... I understand some of your points but  your not giving me any thought as to why my points are incorrect. If you can't give a good counter debate then I don't see a reason why tip jars are a total nuisance. And yes, if I could spar 12 cents for a service I go to many years, then I am rolling with money

And yes I am aware that managers do take tip money. From what I know, managers round up tip and distribute them accordingly... They could take a large portion of it and give little to the employees. In smaller business (unlike chain stores) then they could be split evenly. It's up to the business to do it and its up to you if u give change and also know where it goes to..

I am sorry you had to deal with that in the past, but not all management do the exact thing as other businesses. I am debating that although some tip jars are unnecessary (like the bathroom waiter tip) there are some uses that tip jars have
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Re: Tip Jars
« Reply #34 on: August 12, 2014, 05:24:20 am »
I don't believe in tip jars either.  However I believe that Waiters/waitresses deserve to be tipped if their service was good because they are paid at a much lower hourly rate. I paid for college by working three jobs and one of them was as a waiter. It was hard work and a lot of people are just plain rude...not taking into consideration that a waiter  /waitress is making less, taking care of four to five tables at crappy second shift hours and on holidays.  Yes they could choose to work elsewhere but patrons could also choose to be more human.  I will put money into tip jars if someone gives exceptional service but it is not something that should be expected if you are making minimum wage.

I was not talking about wait staff.  Only TIP JARS.  I waited tables also in high school.  And you are correct.  People are RUDE!

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« Reply #35 on: August 12, 2014, 05:30:58 am »
I can't get too upset over a tip jar sitting on a counter somewhere. You aren't forced into doing something against your will.

I am not upset. lol.  I just think it is stupid.  Just curious as to what others thought.

By that logic, you can also stop tipping your Pizza Guy delivery. They are expected to be tipped everytime, but they are paid to deliever pizza... Are you kidding me??? They don't need tip at all

Guess what happens to your pizza when you call that place again...

Tip Jars are fine because they offer to support the workers who work there and also provide you to get rid of your change... For me, sometimes I don't want to carry change around because I don't want to hear coins grinding up on my phone/keys (happen way to much when train commuting to college). If they offer good and continual service then why not give them change? It's better to have a tip Jar and earn some money then to not have one and not reap any monetary gain.



You seem to have totally MISSED the point.  I did not say anything about delivery guys (which they are already paid extra for delivering and I don't use delivery so don't jump on me for not tipping them) nor did I say not to tip a wait staff.  Go back and read what I said.  I said places like gas stations, fast food restaurants, and other jobs where the staff are paid min wage at the least.  But then have a "tip jar" begging for more money.  I do not feel like I should be to tip a gas station attendant for standing behind the counter and taking my money for a drink I purchase inside the store.  They are standing there doing basically nothing.

As for change - it does not bother me.  So, no I am not going to give them my change for doing a job they are already being paid by their boss to do.  And they are reaping monetary gain.  Their boss gives them a pay check every week.

I (which every one can have their own opinion) just think it is ridiculous for a person to expect every customer to "TIP" them to do the job they are already being paid to do.  Using your logic we can take it a step farther.  Are you going to give you nurse, doctor, the person who checks you in, the person who takes you ins card or money when you pay a TIP because they are pretty much serving you.  They are waiting on you.  When you go to the grocery store or walmart are you going to TIP the cashier?  He or she is ringing up your order.   And back on the pizza thing - I always pick it up myself.  I have never used delivery.  The people who work there are PAID to make the pizzas.  If they are not happy with the pay then find a better paying job.  If you have NO education and NO skills then be happy you have the job you have.  It is beyond foolish to expect every customer who comes in to pick up their pizza to give them an extra TIP for making the pizza.



Of course you didn't say anything about delivery guy, but as you said I am voicing my own opinion on that matter just like everyone... Its a forum, you expect some other perspective not just a total agreement of the OP post ... But missed the point? Your point also applies to delivery guys... It's almost the exact thing, is it not? Delivery guys are paid minimum wages but why does everyone have the notion to tip them? Their boss pays for them right?

As for tip jars, it's not voluntary to give money to them if you don't want to... And they are not in a dogeza mode asking for money either.... If you want to give money or not is totally your call... I think the most annoying way to tip someone is that they "force" you to. Like a guy comes out of nowhere and helps you put your grocery in your car when you don't need help

My opinion is that Tip Jars are just there if you want to support the service they provide.. Not for begging or that they expect you to... If you went to the store and they give you a great service and experience, wouldn't you want to support them even a little bit? For the people who work at Dunkin donuts at the morning, servicing a lot of people in the morning, wouldn't you at times want to give change to them for working their butt off? You might think it's stupid for gas attendants to have tip jars, but do you know that they have to pump your gas when it's freezing or hot out for w/e their shift is? Maybe you could argue it's dumb for self servicing gas pumps to have tip jars but it's grueling to pump someone's gas when you have to stand outside attending cars out in the August Summer and February Winter.

Btw I can't believe you didn't mention the bathroom tip jar... Now that's service that makes no sense

Pizza delivery guys are NOT the same thing.  I am not going to argue with you.  And FYI I have not seen a full service where they pump the gas for you in 20 years.  I pump my own gas so NO I am not going to tip some one for handing me the receipt I had to walk in and get because they are too lazy to change the empty tape roll in the pump station.  I know it is voluntary to put money in the jar.  And no I am not going to give them my change for doing their job.  I work my butt off on my job as well.  Nobody gives me their change for doing my job. lol.

Can you please tell me why pizza delivery isn't the same? You keep saying it's not the same but your not giving me any reason to why it's not... You ask for delivery, you expect to tip.. Everytime you ask for pizza delivery no matter what brand, you have to tip or else you get spit on your pizza (isn't that kind of force you too).. Considering how you view "tip jars" the description of it is same as pizza delivery.

See that's what the information that was missing at beginning, if you actually pump you own gas and stuff then don't tip. They don't deserve it... But the way you mention your original post you seem to put every tip jar as a nuisance.. Some people deserve it and some don't.. If you work full time, you technically do have a tip system. Bonuses. If you work at a company for years, then don't you get bonuses from your job? Bonuses are motivation for people to continue working. People who use tip jars, usually are just part time workers... They don't have bonuses or benefits. And some people can't get full time jobs because they could be a teenage who lack experience and skill for higher ended jobs

BECAUSE I KNOW WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT.  I WAS SPEAKING ONLY OF TIP JARS.  YOU KEEP SAYING THAT BY MY THINKING IT IS WRONG TO HAVE TIP JARS I AM ALSO SAYING I WOULD NOT TIP OR PEOPLE SHOULD NOT TIP A PIZZA DELIVERY GUY.  I KNOW WHAT I WAS MEANING.  I AM SORRY YOU CANNOT GRASP THAT.  ARE YOU A PIZZA DELIVERY PERSON THAT DOES NOT GET TIPS?

PRETTY SURE IN MY VERY FIRST POST I SAID OUR LOCAL SUBWAY SANDWICH SHOP HAS A TIP JAR BY THE REGISTER.  I ALSO MENTIONED ANOTHER FAST FOOD PLACE THAT HAS TIP JARS / CUPS.  IT IS NOT THE SAME AS A WAIT STAFF OR PIZZA DELIVERY (WHICH I HAVE NEVER AND WILL NEVER USE).    NOT SURE ABOUT WHERE YOU LIVE BUT IN MY AREA THERE IS A $3 DELIVERY CHARGE THAT THE DRIVER GETS.  IT IS AUTO ADDED TO YOUR BILL.  SO THAT IS PRETTY MUCH THEIR TIP.

YOU MUST WORK SOMEWHERE THAT HAS A TIP JAR BY THE REGISTER BECAUSE YOU SEEM TO TAKE A LOT OF OFFENSE TO MY OPINION.  MAYBE YOU SHOULD READ THE REST OF THE COMMENTS BECAUSE AT LEAST HALF OF THE PEOPLE COMMENTING COMPLETELY AGREE WITH ME.

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Re: Tip Jars
« Reply #36 on: August 12, 2014, 05:39:00 am »
Either way, from the comments, I see some people feel like I do and others, obviously people with plenty of money lol, have no issues giving their change.

I am also curious as to if the same people who are okay with the tip jars would be as okay with it if they knew the employees did not get the tips but the owner or manager kept it.

I thought this was a forum (a place where people can have different opinions on things) but apparently I guess it's suppose to be a yes train post... I understand some of your points but  your not giving me any thought as to why my points are incorrect. If you can't give a good counter debate then I don't see a reason why tip jars are a total nuisance. And yes, if I could spar 12 cents for a service I go to many years, then I am rolling with money

And yes I am aware that managers do take tip money. From what I know, managers round up tip and distribute them accordingly... They could take a large portion of it and give little to the employees. In smaller business (unlike chain stores) then they could be split evenly. It's up to the business to do it and its up to you if u give change and also know where it goes to..

I am sorry you had to deal with that in the past, but not all management do the exact thing as other businesses. I am debating that although some tip jars are unnecessary (like the bathroom waiter tip) there are some uses that tip jars have

It is funny because you can't seem to let me have my opinion.  You want to force yours on me.
I have given a valid reason for my views.  I can't help it that you cannot grasp that.  In MY OPINION it is stupid to have a tip jar at the register of a restaurant like Subway.  Like I already pointed out they are making at least min wage (which I realize is not a lot but they agreed to take the job and work for that amount) so it seems crazy to expect a tip for doing the job you are being paid to do.

The whole point of my orig. post was the tip jars seem to be popping up every where.  You keep saying something about a bathroom waiter or something like that which I have never heard of.  But if someone was going to get extra for a job then that is a job that should.  I know of places where idiots go in the bathroom and put their hands in their poop and smear it on the walls.  It is insane that anybody should have to clean something like that up.

I have heard on tv and read online where so called experts tell how much you should tip all the different people in your life.  in MY OPINION that is stupid.  If you accept a job as a window washer for $8 an hour then you need to wash the windows for $8 an hour and not expect the person whose window you wash to give you extra money for doing the job you are paid to do.

And as I have already said I do not expect an extra tip from customers for doing MY JOB.  The job I am being paid to do.  If your job involves customers and your boss pays you to do the job then do it and don't complain.  OR find something else.

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« Reply #37 on: August 12, 2014, 09:01:07 am »
I have heard on tv and read online where so called experts tell how much you should tip all the different people in your life.  in MY OPINION that is stupid.  If you accept a job as a window washer for $8 an hour then you need to wash the windows for $8 an hour and not expect the person whose window you wash to give you extra money for doing the job you are paid to do.

And as I have already said I do not expect an extra tip from customers for doing MY JOB.  The job I am being paid to do.  If your job involves customers and your boss pays you to do the job then do it and don't complain.  OR find something else.

I agree that tip jars are not a great idea. Originally tipping was something EXTRA that you gave someone for exceptional service. However now it has become expected to always tip a person in certain jobs... As you mention, we now have experts that tell the public what you should tip. Our minimum wage laws have different "minimum" wages depending on whether the person is expected to earn tips as a part of their income, making customers more "needing" to provide a tip just so that their waiter's wage is comparable to another minimum wage worker that doesn't get tips. Although now the tip jars seem more optional than tipping a waiter, how long will it be before we'll have experts telling us what the customary tip is for the gas station attendant at a self-service station, or a hamburger flipper at McDonalds, or the greater at Walmart?

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« Reply #38 on: August 12, 2014, 09:10:29 am »
I don't know.  Everyone seems to want a penny...but I give you a penny and you a penny and you a penny...I have no penny.  So...i'm saving my pennies.

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« Reply #39 on: August 12, 2014, 10:41:40 am »
Either way, from the comments, I see some people feel like I do and others, obviously people with plenty of money lol, have no issues giving their change.

I am also curious as to if the same people who are okay with the tip jars would be as okay with it if they knew the employees did not get the tips but the owner or manager kept it.

I thought this was a forum (a place where people can have different opinions on things) but apparently I guess it's suppose to be a yes train post... I understand some of your points but  your not giving me any thought as to why my points are incorrect. If you can't give a good counter debate then I don't see a reason why tip jars are a total nuisance. And yes, if I could spar 12 cents for a service I go to many years, then I am rolling with money

And yes I am aware that managers do take tip money. From what I know, managers round up tip and distribute them accordingly... They could take a large portion of it and give little to the employees. In smaller business (unlike chain stores) then they could be split evenly. It's up to the business to do it and its up to you if u give change and also know where it goes to..

I am sorry you had to deal with that in the past, but not all management do the exact thing as other businesses. I am debating that although some tip jars are unnecessary (like the bathroom waiter tip) there are some uses that tip jars have

It is funny because you can't seem to let me have my opinion.  You want to force yours on me.
I have given a valid reason for my views.  I can't help it that you cannot grasp that.  In MY OPINION it is stupid to have a tip jar at the register of a restaurant like Subway.  Like I already pointed out they are making at least min wage (which I realize is not a lot but they agreed to take the job and work for that amount) so it seems crazy to expect a tip for doing the job you are being paid to do.

The whole point of my orig. post was the tip jars seem to be popping up every where.  You keep saying something about a bathroom waiter or something like that which I have never heard of.  But if someone was going to get extra for a job then that is a job that should.  I know of places where idiots go in the bathroom and put their hands in their poop and smear it on the walls.  It is insane that anybody should have to clean something like that up.

I have heard on tv and read online where so called experts tell how much you should tip all the different people in your life.  in MY OPINION that is stupid.  If you accept a job as a window washer for $8 an hour then you need to wash the windows for $8 an hour and not expect the person whose window you wash to give you extra money for doing the job you are paid to do.

And as I have already said I do not expect an extra tip from customers for doing MY JOB.  The job I am being paid to do.  If your job involves customers and your boss pays you to do the job then do it and don't complain.  OR find something else.

Facepalm.... When did I ever force an opinion on to you? I am just asking why isn't deliver and tip jars, based on your description of it ? Never had counter reasoning, so I am guessing you have none. For me, I gave you examples to why it has it's benefits and there is no logical debate from there

I agree that some tip jars are unnecessary but the rant that you do make it sounds like all tip jars are unnecessary
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« Reply #40 on: August 12, 2014, 10:54:41 am »
I can't get too upset over a tip jar sitting on a counter somewhere. You aren't forced into doing something against your will.

I am not upset. lol.  I just think it is stupid.  Just curious as to what others thought.

By that logic, you can also stop tipping your Pizza Guy delivery. They are expected to be tipped everytime, but they are paid to deliever pizza... Are you kidding me??? They don't need tip at all

Guess what happens to your pizza when you call that place again...

Tip Jars are fine because they offer to support the workers who work there and also provide you to get rid of your change... For me, sometimes I don't want to carry change around because I don't want to hear coins grinding up on my phone/keys (happen way to much when train commuting to college). If they offer good and continual service then why not give them change? It's better to have a tip Jar and earn some money then to not have one and not reap any monetary gain.



You seem to have totally MISSED the point.  I did not say anything about delivery guys (which they are already paid extra for delivering and I don't use delivery so don't jump on me for not tipping them) nor did I say not to tip a wait staff.  Go back and read what I said.  I said places like gas stations, fast food restaurants, and other jobs where the staff are paid min wage at the least.  But then have a "tip jar" begging for more money.  I do not feel like I should be to tip a gas station attendant for standing behind the counter and taking my money for a drink I purchase inside the store.  They are standing there doing basically nothing.

As for change - it does not bother me.  So, no I am not going to give them my change for doing a job they are already being paid by their boss to do.  And they are reaping monetary gain.  Their boss gives them a pay check every week.

I (which every one can have their own opinion) just think it is ridiculous for a person to expect every customer to "TIP" them to do the job they are already being paid to do.  Using your logic we can take it a step farther.  Are you going to give you nurse, doctor, the person who checks you in, the person who takes you ins card or money when you pay a TIP because they are pretty much serving you.  They are waiting on you.  When you go to the grocery store or walmart are you going to TIP the cashier?  He or she is ringing up your order.   And back on the pizza thing - I always pick it up myself.  I have never used delivery.  The people who work there are PAID to make the pizzas.  If they are not happy with the pay then find a better paying job.  If you have NO education and NO skills then be happy you have the job you have.  It is beyond foolish to expect every customer who comes in to pick up their pizza to give them an extra TIP for making the pizza.



Of course you didn't say anything about delivery guy, but as you said I am voicing my own opinion on that matter just like everyone... Its a forum, you expect some other perspective not just a total agreement of the OP post ... But missed the point? Your point also applies to delivery guys... It's almost the exact thing, is it not? Delivery guys are paid minimum wages but why does everyone have the notion to tip them? Their boss pays for them right?

As for tip jars, it's not voluntary to give money to them if you don't want to... And they are not in a dogeza mode asking for money either.... If you want to give money or not is totally your call... I think the most annoying way to tip someone is that they "force" you to. Like a guy comes out of nowhere and helps you put your grocery in your car when you don't need help

My opinion is that Tip Jars are just there if you want to support the service they provide.. Not for begging or that they expect you to... If you went to the store and they give you a great service and experience, wouldn't you want to support them even a little bit? For the people who work at Dunkin donuts at the morning, servicing a lot of people in the morning, wouldn't you at times want to give change to them for working their butt off? You might think it's stupid for gas attendants to have tip jars, but do you know that they have to pump your gas when it's freezing or hot out for w/e their shift is? Maybe you could argue it's dumb for self servicing gas pumps to have tip jars but it's grueling to pump someone's gas when you have to stand outside attending cars out in the August Summer and February Winter.

Btw I can't believe you didn't mention the bathroom tip jar... Now that's service that makes no sense

Pizza delivery guys are NOT the same thing.  I am not going to argue with you.  And FYI I have not seen a full service where they pump the gas for you in 20 years.  I pump my own gas so NO I am not going to tip some one for handing me the receipt I had to walk in and get because they are too lazy to change the empty tape roll in the pump station.  I know it is voluntary to put money in the jar.  And no I am not going to give them my change for doing their job.  I work my butt off on my job as well.  Nobody gives me their change for doing my job. lol.

Can you please tell me why pizza delivery isn't the same? You keep saying it's not the same but your not giving me any reason to why it's not... You ask for delivery, you expect to tip.. Everytime you ask for pizza delivery no matter what brand, you have to tip or else you get spit on your pizza (isn't that kind of force you too).. Considering how you view "tip jars" the description of it is same as pizza delivery.

See that's what the information that was missing at beginning, if you actually pump you own gas and stuff then don't tip. They don't deserve it... But the way you mention your original post you seem to put every tip jar as a nuisance.. Some people deserve it and some don't.. If you work full time, you technically do have a tip system. Bonuses. If you work at a company for years, then don't you get bonuses from your job? Bonuses are motivation for people to continue working. People who use tip jars, usually are just part time workers... They don't have bonuses or benefits. And some people can't get full time jobs because they could be a teenage who lack experience and skill for higher ended jobs

BECAUSE I KNOW WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT.  I WAS SPEAKING ONLY OF TIP JARS.  YOU KEEP SAYING THAT BY MY THINKING IT IS WRONG TO HAVE TIP JARS I AM ALSO SAYING I WOULD NOT TIP OR PEOPLE SHOULD NOT TIP A PIZZA DELIVERY GUY.  I KNOW WHAT I WAS MEANING.  I AM SORRY YOU CANNOT GRASP THAT.  ARE YOU A PIZZA DELIVERY PERSON THAT DOES NOT GET TIPS?

PRETTY SURE IN MY VERY FIRST POST I SAID OUR LOCAL SUBWAY SANDWICH SHOP HAS A TIP JAR BY THE REGISTER.  I ALSO MENTIONED ANOTHER FAST FOOD PLACE THAT HAS TIP JARS / CUPS.  IT IS NOT THE SAME AS A WAIT STAFF OR PIZZA DELIVERY (WHICH I HAVE NEVER AND WILL NEVER USE).    NOT SURE ABOUT WHERE YOU LIVE BUT IN MY AREA THERE IS A $3 DELIVERY CHARGE THAT THE DRIVER GETS.  IT IS AUTO ADDED TO YOUR BILL.  SO THAT IS PRETTY MUCH THEIR TIP.

YOU MUST WORK SOMEWHERE THAT HAS A TIP JAR BY THE REGISTER BECAUSE YOU SEEM TO TAKE A LOT OF OFFENSE TO MY OPINION.  MAYBE YOU SHOULD READ THE REST OF THE COMMENTS BECAUSE AT LEAST HALF OF THE PEOPLE COMMENTING COMPLETELY AGREE WITH ME.

I am done humoring you. When has a forum ever been about the general consensus of right and wrong? It has to be for and against it.. In a forum you don't need to take sides, just offer your thought, so that others and yourself will be able to learn from their experience. Based on the conversation we had, I gotta say that it has been one of the most pointless debates I have ever done on thought process. Counter defensive that offers no logical debate

Next time when you make a forum, be sure that you know that there are different opinions and situation in which you have to debate on your reasoning. Don't expect a huge circlejerk that will all agree with your post


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Re: Tip Jars
« Reply #41 on: August 12, 2014, 11:08:51 am »
Btw the bathroom tip service, is for high end restaurants.... They have a waiter/waitress dry your hand and give you mint (also have fragrance/perfume in there.... Also the $3 delivery charge is for the company's gas service (meaning the gasoline used to delivery), not the tip for the delivery guy.. The more you know

K I am done posting in the forum and humoring this OP

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Re: Tip Jars
« Reply #42 on: August 12, 2014, 12:54:36 pm »
Either way, from the comments, I see some people feel like I do and others, obviously people with plenty of money lol, have no issues giving their change.

I am also curious as to if the same people who are okay with the tip jars would be as okay with it if they knew the employees did not get the tips but the owner or manager kept it.

I thought this was a forum (a place where people can have different opinions on things) but apparently I guess it's suppose to be a yes train post... I understand some of your points but  your not giving me any thought as to why my points are incorrect. If you can't give a good counter debate then I don't see a reason why tip jars are a total nuisance. And yes, if I could spar 12 cents for a service I go to many years, then I am rolling with money

And yes I am aware that managers do take tip money. From what I know, managers round up tip and distribute them accordingly... They could take a large portion of it and give little to the employees. In smaller business (unlike chain stores) then they could be split evenly. It's up to the business to do it and its up to you if u give change and also know where it goes to..

I am sorry you had to deal with that in the past, but not all management do the exact thing as other businesses. I am debating that although some tip jars are unnecessary (like the bathroom waiter tip) there are some uses that tip jars have

It is funny because you can't seem to let me have my opinion.  You want to force yours on me.
I have given a valid reason for my views.  I can't help it that you cannot grasp that.  In MY OPINION it is stupid to have a tip jar at the register of a restaurant like Subway.  Like I already pointed out they are making at least min wage (which I realize is not a lot but they agreed to take the job and work for that amount) so it seems crazy to expect a tip for doing the job you are being paid to do.

The whole point of my orig. post was the tip jars seem to be popping up every where.  You keep saying something about a bathroom waiter or something like that which I have never heard of.  But if someone was going to get extra for a job then that is a job that should.  I know of places where idiots go in the bathroom and put their hands in their poop and smear it on the walls.  It is insane that anybody should have to clean something like that up.

I have heard on tv and read online where so called experts tell how much you should tip all the different people in your life.  in MY OPINION that is stupid.  If you accept a job as a window washer for $8 an hour then you need to wash the windows for $8 an hour and not expect the person whose window you wash to give you extra money for doing the job you are paid to do.

And as I have already said I do not expect an extra tip from customers for doing MY JOB.  The job I am being paid to do.  If your job involves customers and your boss pays you to do the job then do it and don't complain.  OR find something else.

Facepalm.... When did I ever force an opinion on to you? I am just asking why isn't deliver and tip jars, based on your description of it ? Never had counter reasoning, so I am guessing you have none. For me, I gave you examples to why it has it's benefits and there is no logical debate from there

I agree that some tip jars are unnecessary but the rant that you do make it sounds like all tip jars are unnecessary


I am done.  I am NOT responding to you again.  You just want to argue and pick a fight.  GO BACK AND READ WHAT I SAID IN THE FIRST POST.  I do not owe you an explanation.  YOU are the one who keeps yelling about pizza delivery drivers.  So either that is your job or your kid's job.  There is a reason you are so offended.  So lol.

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Re: Tip Jars
« Reply #43 on: August 12, 2014, 12:56:35 pm »
Btw the bathroom tip service, is for high end restaurants.... They have a waiter/waitress dry your hand and give you mint (also have fragrance/perfume in there.... Also the $3 delivery charge is for the company's gas service (meaning the gasoline used to delivery), not the tip for the delivery guy.. The more you know

K I am done posting in the forum and humoring this OP

Again, YOU are wrong.  They use their own cars and pay for their own gas.

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Re: Tip Jars
« Reply #44 on: August 12, 2014, 01:20:24 pm »
Btw the bathroom tip service, is for high end restaurants.... They have a waiter/waitress dry your hand and give you mint (also have fragrance/perfume in there.... Also the $3 delivery charge is for the company's gas service (meaning the gasoline used to delivery), not the tip for the delivery guy.. The more you know

K I am done posting in the forum and humoring this OP

Again, YOU are wrong.  They use their own cars and pay for their own gas.

Dominos Pizza delivery people get $1.00 for gas each trip.  It goes right on their check. 
At least it is that way here where I live.   Maybe the amount paid for gas (or not paid by gas) depends on what region one lives & who the company is.   

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