Are you an evolutionist or a creationist and why

[hitch0403]

I think what gets missed here is the question.Why did God create life.The answer is simple.The bible says that HE is love so he created out of love.

Is it so hard to see HE has feelings?Read the bible right before the flood in Genesis.The world had become so wicked He felt hurt in HIS heart.

I think whats wrong with a lot of people when they judge the Creator or God they dont look at HIM as a REAL person.Remember mankind is made in HIS image so its easy to understand love and hurt feelings.

Experiment?Suppose he had destroyed A&E right after they sinned....where would human race be?But HE allowed them to have off-spring cos HE knew some of us would love,obey and accept HIM as rightful sovereign of universe.The name Jehovah means "He causes to become".The monkey wrench A&E & Satan put into his purpose was a slight roadblock.It still will be carried out!!As far as HE is concerned cos HE is Alpha and Omega this has only been going on 6 days.

[Mikena]

I think what gets missed here is the question.Why did God create life.The answer is simple.The bible says that HE is love so he created out of love.

Is it so hard to see HE has feelings?Read the bible right before the flood in Genesis.The world had become so wicked He felt hurt in HIS heart.

I think whats wrong with a lot of people when they judge the Creator or God they dont look at HIM as a REAL person.Remember mankind is made in HIS image so its easy to understand love and hurt feelings.

Experiment?Suppose he had destroyed A&E right after they sinned....where would human race be?But HE allowed them to have off-spring cos HE knew some of us would love,obey and accept HIM as rightful sovereign of universe.The name Jehovah means "He causes to become".The monkey wrench A&E & Satan put into his purpose was a slight roadblock.It still will be carried out!!As far as HE is concerned cos HE is Alpha and Omega this has only been going on 6 days.

I am a creationist! I have a hard time in believing that I evolved from a one cell. Maybe I am wrong but even so where did the one cell come from? I was brought up in believing in God and I would rather take my chances and continue believing in Him rather than be wrong when my time here on earth is gone and suffer the consequences.

[hitch0403]

Mike....i think its Psalms 139 that reads,"Your eyes <God> even saw me as an embryo.

Hard to understand sometimes that God always was...you can drive yourself crazy cos we had a beginning and HE didnt.

[Falconer02]

I am a creationist! I have a hard time in believing that I evolved from a one cell. Maybe I am wrong but even so where did the one cell come from? I was brought up in believing in God and I would rather take my chances and continue believing in Him rather than be wrong when my time here on earth is gone and suffer the consequences.

1.) I'd recommend taking a basic level biology course at your local community college to get a better grasp on the scientific world. "I don't get it, therefore god did everything." is not a good method of approach to finding answers and has hindered cultural progress for centuries at a time.

2.) There have been hundreds of religions throughout the ages, so putting all your eggs in one basket and sticking with the popular 'flavor-of-the-culture' one you were raised in seems extremely naive. What happens if your religion is false and...say...native american or hindu beliefs are correct?

[Falconer02]

I think what gets missed here is the question.Why did God create life.The answer is simple.The bible says that HE is love so he created out of love.

You obviously missed the point trying to be made. Love does not equal uncaring and malevolent behavior.

The world had become so wicked He felt hurt in HIS heart.

And in turn he destroys everyone including women and children (babies too)? Such traits are worse than a comic book villain.

I think whats wrong with a lot of people when they judge the Creator or God they dont look at HIM as a REAL person.Remember mankind is made in HIS image so its easy to understand love and hurt feelings.

Even if one does that, it's obvious to see that this god is majorly flawed in so many basic and childish ways that using words like "all powerful, omniscient, omnipotent" etc. shouldn't be spoken about it. People should really be worshiping a more competent god if this is what a religious person is supposed to do.

"I've created the universe, time, physics, planets and galaxies! But this one species hurt my feelings so I'm going to kill them all and start over."

The monkey wrench A&E & Satan put into his purpose was a slight roadblock.It still will be carried out!!As far as HE is concerned cos HE is Alpha and Omega this has only been going on 6 days.

Why would a god who transcends time create an antagonist?

[jtoribio]

Evolutionist = a scientist who explains modern biology through natural means, rigorous testing, and evidences. This term is able to improve it's viewpoint on the subject if it is proven wrong.

Creationist = a fundamental religious person who must tie all modern science through ancient mythology and supernatural unproven claims, w/o rigorous testing or evidences. Though the term is seemingly scientific, it is not actual science. This term ignores the contrary evidences and will crumble if proven wrong (or attempt to jerry-rig itself into the evidence to make it seem true).

I'm an evolutionist because I'm not a delusional fundamentalist.

[BJohnsonPP]

Also, no one knows how life started but the only people with plausible ideas on the subject are scientists. As with all of their theories, there's a point of first hypothesizing and gathering data before they can say anything definitively unlike the religious who claim 100% [certainty] with zero evidence.

I think this may be in part for some of our disagreements... Not all religions claim to have a definitive answer to everything, nor do all believers have a fixed view of the universe.

I know all religions don't claim to have a definitive answer and I didn't say the all do. I'm speaking of the religious that chime in on this subject. There's no need to chime in and interject religion if you know it has no place in science. Those that know this, accept their religion for what it is and accept science for what it is. They don't need to be brought up. So, we're talking about a specific argument between the two sides and those that represent that particular religious side that seeks to challenge science with their superstition.

[BJohnsonPP]

I am a creationist! I have a hard time in believing that I evolved from a one cell.

We develop from sperm cells and egg cells. Every living thing we know of starts from some sort of cell and is comprised of cells or is a cell. So evolution from a cell shouldn't be hard to believe or understand.

Maybe I am wrong but even so where did the one cell come from? I was brought up in believing in God and I would rather take my chances and continue believing in Him rather than be wrong when my time here on earth is gone and suffer the consequences.

That's certainly a great reason to believe something ridiculous... fear. Look up Pascal's wager... while you're at it, look up "god of the gaps" and "argument from ignorance" too.

[mythociate]

I think of myself as an Apologist---taking the Middle Way. I believe that we are created to evolve!

I think of this 'joke' a preacher tells his church: A group of scientists went up to God one day and told Him "We've discovered how to construct all forms of life out of the dirt, just like you!" He seemed impressed & told them to go ahead and do it, "except for one thing ... create your own dirt!  "

[skinnygwenny]

I am neither an evolutionist or a creationist, I am a realist.

[hitch0403]

I think its kinda hard to argue against the bible that has been around for 1000s of yrs....been translated in hundreds of languages and predicted the future.All of that shows its divine and NOT manmade.Yes man was used as a secretary writes down her employers thoughts...but they are NOT his words.

I agree there are many religeons that profess to teach the Bible but DONT!!Just because this satanic system blinds the minds of many there is NO reason to blame the Creator for that.In the book of Job the calamitys that Satan brought upon him were done to make it look like God was causing them.Yet his love for Jehovah still didnt make Job curse Him as his wife and others wanted him to do.

BTW...just what is a realist?

[Falconer02]

I am neither an evolutionist or a creationist, I am a realist.

Well if you stick to reality, then aren't you an evolutionist due to the fossil record?

I think its kinda hard to argue against the bible that has been around for 1000s of yrs....been translated in hundreds of languages and predicted the future. All of that shows its divine and NOT manmade.

One could say the same exact things for other ancient holy books such as the Vedas. And it's quite easy to dismiss ancient beliefs once you look at it realistically- the bible is full of flaws, hypocrisy, immoral teachings, romanticizations, false prophecies, etc. An all-powerful god expects you to believe he's real just because of an old book with these attributes? It's a lame conduit to argue it's real.

BTW...just what is a realist?

I'm not surprised you had to ask this! Hahah jk!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Realism

[BJohnsonPP]

I think its kinda hard to argue against the bible that has been around for 1000s of yrs....

You've clearly never read it. It's extremely easy to argue against it. There are scientific and historic inaccuracies, it's often contradictory, and laughably ridiculous. You might want to try reading it critically one day.

...been translated in hundreds of languages

Mistranslated often. Wouldn't it have been more efficient for your god that can do all things to put it in a language that we could all understand and also in a form that wouldn't deteriorate and have to be pieced together? I don't know, maybe I expect my omniscient, omnipotent beings to be... I don't know... omniscient and omnipotent. Crazy me.

...and predicted the future.

Like "there will be storms" and such? Congrats, you've just proven my weatherman is god.

BTW...just what is a realist?

As Falconer02 just said, it's not surprising you would ask this. I no longer think you're a fundamentalist, I think you're a comedy writer just trolling 'cause this is too perfect. You had me fooled though. I'll give that to you.

[vp44]

Hey VP...did dinosaurs have mistletoe too?

Hahaha that is funny. Can you say they did not have a Christmas?  LOL How would you know and answer that one?

[hitch0403]

VP..Christ birthday supposedly by Christendom and many more was 2000 years on 12/25.Dinosaurs were before that...correct?So how could they celebrate xmas then?My pun had much to do with your season greetings posts.

Jesus said his followers would be ridiculed and objects of hatred because of HIM.In answer to these last few posts lets just say I am not surprised what i have read.Hopefully as i have mentioned numerous times if 1 person gets something positive regarding the bible the discussion was worth it.

Hebrews 4 :12 reads....The word of God is alive and active.Sharper than any double edged sword.It penetrates even to dividing soul and spirit,joints & marrow,it judges the thoughts and attitudes of the heart.

That scripture warned Jesus followers long ago the reaction the bible would get from True disciples and supporters of Satans system.