New PTC requirement - alternate tracking suggestion

[kapeh12]

I read the posted heads up about the new requirement to make 5 cents in offers before one can complete the PTC offer.  In principle, I have no issues with this request.  Completely reasonable.

I got to thinking about this, and I see a potential that this could create problems at times for people.  Although it is rare, there are times where the offer well is a bit dry - no videos, little to no tasks (and sometimes if one already completed the ones listed, they may need to wait a week or so before allowed to work them again), cannot qualify for any surveys, cannot qualify for offers on main page (or none of the offers are suitable - like a non-smoker, I would not want to sign up for a cigar for the month club offer just to be able to do the PTC)...

On some other sites I work, they seem to have a similar issue and resolved it by using a "percentage for checkout" option.  Similar to what FC currently has where we need to make $15 in offers before we can cashout - perhaps an alternate to the 5 cents every day would be use a percentage before cashout.

With your proposal, I calculated if a person only does the minimum - for every 22 cents made, 77% can be the PTC and daily email (17 cents), and 23% needs to be other offers (5 cents).  If you rounded that up, basically what you're desiring is that of the offer money made, you need 25% of the money to come from non-daily email/non-PTC offers.

The advantage I see of a percentage based solution is if people are too busy to work some of the offers or sit for an hour to listen to Radio loyalty - they can still do the daily PTC and "make-up" the money later when they do have time.  If their ratio is less than 25%, then they simply cannot cashout until they get that ratio up at their own time.  It give the user more flexibility to still comply with the financial goals, and will also mitigate times when the offer well is dry and people start complaining they cannot do the PTC because they cannot make their mandatory 5 cents.


I know the new 5 cent requirement coding is probably in the final testing phase for roll out in the next couple weeks, but I thought I'd toss this option out in case after it rolls out, there are complaints regarding the ability to make the 5 cents every day, perhaps this option could be considered as an alternate solution to make it more manageable for workers to be able to work the PTC and still obtain the desired FC financial needs.

[TOMAS7]

I have to agree, I initially stated that I had no problem with changing my routine to earn the 5 cents first, but as I tried to practice retraining myself I found that it was nearly impossible to do as the offers well is dry for someone like me and perhaps a good number of others that never qualify for any of the surveys. And often there are not enough videos or there are issues with them and they don't credit, and forget the tasks, the instructions are so convoluted to me that I can never figure out what they want. The search tool on the tool bar often times locks up my system so I have to restart it and when I bring it back up the last thing I searched for has remained in the search box and the thing thinks I am doing a double search on the same term and then blocks me out, sometimes for the rest of the month. So with so little else to pick from the radio option is the only other one left and who really wants to invest close to an hour before earning any other money on here? I got into the routine of doing the daily email and the PTC because they were often times the ONLY things that WOULD credit for me, and then if I had more time or thought that maybe , just maybe one of the surveys might credit, then I would try one of them.  I do hope that FC has been able to deepen the inventory of videos and simpler tasks that will assist with meeting this preliminary requirement before we actually go live with it. Kind of too bad that it wasn't BETA tested first so these kind of issues could be worked out before springing it full force on all of us. And for all I know maybe it has been tested, but if that is the case, a proactive additional announcement to address and reduce fears would certainly be welcomed.

[oldbuddy]

You must have missed the latest change. Now you can start off with the 15 cent PTC and 2 cent email like a lot of people do, you just need to earn 5 cents doing other offers before you can do it again.

[Cuppycake]

I really don't think they care. They don't care if we make money or not only that they do. If preventing people from only doing the ptc is their goal then they will be losing allot of people that only bother with the ptc. It isn't the only thing I do but I assure you that even though I have been here for years the day I am unable to do the ptc it will be my last day here. I do not rely on this site alone.

[oldbuddy]

I really don't think they care. They don't care if we make money or not only that they do. If preventing people from only doing the ptc is their goal then they will be losing allot of people that only bother with the ptc. It isn't the only thing I do but I assure you that even though I have been here for years the day I am unable to do the ptc it will be my last day here. I do not rely on this site alone.

If they didn't care about us, they would not have considered the latest change they made. They can't make money if we all fail and quit, that's just common sense. If for some reason the 15 cent paid to click went away, I would feel sad but I would carry on just like I have all these years. Unlike you, I believe in Fusioncash and the admin here to be the very best PTC online and I think they will be generous and fair like they always have. That's the reason they have survived when so many others fail. It's not the only thing I do either, but I don't bite the hand that feeds me.

[donnarg1989]

 I THINK FC KNOWS WHAT IS BEST FOR THE COMPANY, AND THAT IN MAKING THIS DECISION, IS BENIFICIAL FOR BOTH FC AND US MEMBERS. FOR A COMPANY TO BE IN BUSNESS A LONG TIME, IT HAS TO DO WHAT IS BEST, AND THEN EVERYONE WILL BE ABLE TO BENIFIT.

[kapeh12]

I hadn't checked back recently - good to hear of the modification to the timing.  That will definitely help.

I still think there could be issues during dry offer times, though.  I think those that have been here a while know those times do occur.  I have faith FC admins will monitor activity during those times and make adjustments to the PTC process as needed to keep members and their (FC's) bottom line both happy.

I can also see people complaining why they have to do more tasks every day when they get credited for a $1 survey - which is "way more" than the required 5 cents - believing that credit should buy them more PTC days (just based on the face value math).  Of course, that only works if FC's cut of the surveys and big dollar offers is the same percentage as their cut from videos, human tasks, radio loyalty...

This new requirement will be a work in progress as FC monitors member activity level, listens to feedback/suggestions as regulars comply with the new policy, and will make decisions to tweak the process to everyone's benefit.

[jcribb16]

I really don't think they care. They don't care if we make money or not only that they do. If preventing people from only doing the ptc is their goal then they will be losing allot of people that only bother with the ptc. It isn't the only thing I do but I assure you that even though I have been here for years the day I am unable to do the ptc it will be my last day here. I do not rely on this site alone.

If they didn't care about us, they would not have considered the latest change they made. They can't make money if we all fail and quit, that's just common sense. If for some reason the 15 cent paid to click went away, I would feel sad but I would carry on just like I have all these years. Unlike you, I believe in Fusioncash and the admin here to be the very best PTC online and I think they will be generous and fair like they always have. That's the reason they have survived when so many others fail. It's not the only thing I do either, but I don't bite the hand that feeds me.

You said this well.  FC actually pays pretty high, on a daily basis, between the PTC and the Daily Cash Mail.  As a company, that is a definite help for ones like myself, who need a way to earn cash here at home, especially dealing with health issues and not being able to be outside much. 

Adding the 5 cents a day is pretty small, when you think about it.  Add the $3.00 monthly bonus for the opportunity to post/earn in the forum, along with the $1.00 just to post a picture of our payment, and it makes for an easy and fun way to already earn with them.  And to me, FC definitely pays higher than some other sites I'm in, considering all of these extras.  I think sometimes, some forget about these extra advantages that help us attain a payout more quickly than other sites.  I'm very grateful for them.

I don't always care for some of the offers, especially that do not pertain to me (like the Cigar offer) but there are other offers, and the surveys offered, along with the videos and small tasks, that are only adding opportunities to try and earn more.  FC has to reach their own goals of financial support to stay open, too.  Because I do need the money, I'm willing to put extra time in - they are helping me to earn cash for bills - it's only right I can add 5 cents extra a day that will help FC to be able to keep this paid site running.   

**Besides, for those who know and follow oldbuddy, if he backs something, then be assured it's a good thing to think about doing! 

[makeblessed]

Nice suggestion, but I think Fusion Cash is doing what is best for their customers and for them as a business. Sometimes you have to make changes to survive, I enjoy FC and it is at least providing me with some extra mad money each month, so I will just go with the flow. I already do some of the other things they are suggesting, so the change for me should not be that hard.

[mary33716]

 wrote very well and understand but for are neebys you need to explain it a little easier for them
im math teacher your calculation way off you do the math not being rude trying to help not everyone will understand what you talking about

[TOMAS7]

@ Mary it is a good thing you are not an English teacher, I read your post 3 times and still don't truly understand what you are trying to say. I think you were indicating that there are newbies here that may need a more in depth explanation? Also if you are going to state that FC is off in their math could you please provide an example as to how you reached that conclusion? I had posted earlier yesterday before I had found the update that indicates we need to earn the additional 5 cents between attempts at the PTC which will be easier to do. If you do the Daily e mail and then the PTC as long as you follow up with some videos, daily tasks, searches, etc. and earn the additional 5 cents before you attempt the PTC the next day you should be OK. at least from how others are interpreting the update. The only thing I could see perhaps is that you would need to earn your 5 cents first on the 15th when the whole cycle starts. I put the question forth to Admin but have not had clarification on it. I understand then from what Old Buddy is saying that going forward as long as you have earned the 5 cents before attempting the PTC again all should be good. I did also stumble upon something yesterday after the update that indicated we might also receive a message telling us that we have not earned the 5 cents required to proceed to the PTC. I inquired then if we would be allowed to earn the 5 cents and not be blocked from attempting the PTC after that and again have not received clarification.   If these matters aren't answered prior to going live, it will be trial and error and a few support tickets no doubt until everyone understands the range of the new process and the subsequent limitations.

[oldbuddy]

@ Mary it is a good thing you are not an English teacher, I read your post 3 times and still don't truly understand what you are trying to say. I think you were indicating that there are newbies here that may need a more in depth explanation? Also if you are going to state that FC is off in their math could you please provide an example as to how you reached that conclusion? I had posted earlier yesterday before I had found the update that indicates we need to earn the additional 5 cents between attempts at the PTC which will be easier to do. If you do the Daily e mail and then the PTC as long as you follow up with some videos, daily tasks, searches, etc. and earn the additional 5 cents before you attempt the PTC the next day you should be OK. at least from how others are interpreting the update. The only thing I could see perhaps is that you would need to earn your 5 cents first on the 15th when the whole cycle starts. I put the question forth to Admin but have not had clarification on it. I understand then from what Old Buddy is saying that going forward as long as you have earned the 5 cents before attempting the PTC again all should be good. I did also stumble upon something yesterday after the update that indicated we might also receive a message telling us that we have not earned the 5 cents required to proceed to the PTC. I inquired then if we would be allowed to earn the 5 cents and not be blocked from attempting the PTC after that and again have not received clarification.   If these matters aren't answered prior to going live, it will be trial and error and a few support tickets no doubt until everyone understands the range of the new process and the subsequent limitations.

I don't think it will require any support tickets, they have their hands full already. I am sure once we go through the cycle a time or two there shouldn't be any questions.

[kapeh12]

@TOMAS57 -
My take on the requirements is the 5 cents will be the "first item" of the PTC "checklist".  We're allowed to do the PTC once per day, as we are allowed today - this task will continue to reset each day (not a full 24 hour wait period like some of the daily surveys).  The only addition is we will need to have logged 5 cents between the first time we work it to the next time we work it.  As soon as the 5 cent minimum is recorded, we can work the rest of the PTC (viewing 4 pages, clicking sponsor link, etc). 

What I plan to do on the 14th, after I work the PTC, I'll log at least 5 cents in offers before I work the PTC on the 15th.  Then continue that pattern forward.  I'm guessing they are coding their solution to calculate the offer dollars accumulated from the last/previous PTC worked to the current time - and if the result is 5 cents or greater (excluding daily email and bonus money, of course), you're allowed to work the current day's PTC.  Their database most likely has codes on each offer/bonus logged that they use to ensure they are picking up the appropriate amounts for this calculation.

It might be a little rocky initially if there are bugs in the program that need to be worked out.  I plan to be patient as FC typically works those bugs out quickly when they introduce new items like this.  If there are issues, I'd recommend looking for a thread in the "Support" forum and log the glitch you notice there vs submitting a ticket.  I expect FC staff will be on high alert the first couple weeks as this rolls out fixing potential issues after it goes live.  By keeping glitch notification centralized in the Support forum vs hundreds of tickets, they'll be able to focus more on fixing the issue vs answering all the tickets.  JMHO.

[TOMAS7]

@ kapeh12 Thanks, and to Old Buddy also, since this thread was started I see that there has been clarification and that the approach you are indicating should be able to work, as long as we have completed the 5 cents requirement prior to attempting the PTC again. I also came across an additional post I believe under the Fusion Cash heading in which ADMIN has posted a screen shot of what the page will look like if we haven't reached the 5 cents before attempting the PTC. It will show what you have earned and how much more and then make the suggestions of ways in which to earn the difference. Until you do reach the requirement you will not be able to move on to the PTC. This will be a great feature and prevent a lot of guessing or forgetfulness. I can usually pull together the additional 5 cents throughout the day but not always at the beginning so setting myself up to get the 5 cents in the night before will keep me in the routine I have gotten accustomed to and apparently many others have as well. Good luck to all.

[rwhite17]

I'm glad this was explained better, not that I'd have trouble with the new change, but having to earn 5 cents between PTC will be easier on me and most as we got used to doing it first.. also, if you can't make 5 cents a day then you're doing something wrong   lol  just kidding, but 5 cents isn't a lot at all