christianity

[BMaston12]

ok... so our world today has a twisted view of christianity... its ok to not be perfect... don't judge us... not all of us are hypocrites we are all sinners.

Yes, you get it. We are all sinners and there is no greater or less than in God's eyes. No one is perfect and we don't have the right to judge. However, sometimes it is hard to fight human nature and not be judgemental, because we don't understand others actions and reactions. If they are not like ours, everyone else must have a problem. My problem is with common sense. Some people would rather have on their blinders when the truth is staring them right in the face. They prefer the lie over the truth? We can only pray that God will enlighten them to the truth.
BMaston12

[jmccaskill]

There is no greater misunderstanding of Biblical scripture/teaching than that of Christians judging; be it actions, other people or anything else. No where in the Bible does it say 'Thou shall not judge'. The fact is that the scriptures teach that God's people are to constantly judge the things about them, and especially themselves! The singular quotation of Jesus (paraphrased) 'judge not, yet ye be judged' is a specific instruction and warning, basically that means that one is to be careful HOW one judges, that is to what standards, as one will be held to the same standards one establishes for others. This is in no wise a prohibition for God's people to never judge or determine ethical, moral, or sinful actions or those that perpetrate same. Sadly, those that lack any meaningful standards in themselves love to scream that 'you can't judge me' and all that sort of thing. This is a complete deliberate lie to prevent others from calling evil into account.

One might care to examine what the Bible really says on this topic and not buy into this false teaching of the scripture. One of many places to begin might be 1 Corinthians 6:2-3.

[bonzie]

I agree,everyone has their own choice of life. As long as people are not hurting other people I`m happy with them, no matter what kind of belief their in.

[JediJohnnie]

I can't quote Falconeer (since I have him on ignore,that's probably the reason),but suffice to say I've refuted enough of his nonsense in the past,that if he had an once of objectivity,he wouldn't keep making these ridiculous comments.

[Falconer02]

I can't quote Falconeer (since I have him on ignore,that's probably the reason),but suffice to say I've refuted enough of his nonsense in the past,that if he had an once of objectivity,he wouldn't keep making these ridiculous comments.

*sniff* I love this guy so much. Dishonesty, arrogance, and ignorance...he's like the poster child for why Christianity is fading from our society. Please, JJ! Do your duty to mankind and never stop posting!

[weased]

ok... so our world today has a twisted view of christianity...

Slave ownership, commanded genocide, the stoning of children, etc.

Surely, you speak of islam here?  Not only this, but, rape, terrorism, the slow death of animals to appease their false God, their total disregard for human life (whether you "believe" or not), their "marriage" to BABIES, *bleep*, cannibalism, inbreeding.  You're entitled to "believe" what you want to believe but these people are just plain SICK.

Understanding what and when the Old Testament is is crucial. Only the nation of Isreal were going to Heaven to be with God. All others were out of this picture. Sadly, a lot of folks see this as a cruel God, just as those false gods that the other nations worshipped, that required the passing of children through fire. Slaves to the Irealites were actually blessed in that they were accepted to be of the chosen people of God, genocide of other nations was a command only to keep the bloodline purely of the twelve tribes so that no influence of idol worshipping would infiltrate the nation of Isreal. We can not know the wisdom and mind of God and to equate it with human minds is only going to block your understanding of how Grace is the ultimate gift.

Have you read the Old Testament??

[Falconer02]

a lot of folks see this as a cruel God

genocide of other nations was a command only to keep the bloodline purely of the twelve tribes so that no influence of idol worshipping would infiltrate the nation of Isreal

You really don't see the contradiction here? The fact that this is easily comparable to any genocidal maniacal leader through history is proof enough that this god of yours is evil. I'm not sure how you can justify genocide for the preservation of bloodlines (murder is murder), but I'm eager to hear it.

We can not know the wisdom and mind of God and to equate it with human minds is only going to block your understanding of how Grace is the ultimate gift.

Blindly following an authority figure with the promise of an irrational goal has lead to the worst atrocities in mankind's history.

[walksalone11]

Did someone say.....GENOCIDE?

[Falconer02]

WALKSALONE!!! You're back! Where have you been, dude?

[walksalone11]

WALKSALONE!!! You're back! Where have you been, dude?

Hi Bro....ehhh Im never that far away....just been busy building on my house etc. need to get it to a point where I can put it on the market and start making my way back east to the homeland.

Looks like not much has changed here....

carry on.... LOL

[weased]

a lot of folks see this as a cruel God

genocide of other nations was a command only to keep the bloodline purely of the twelve tribes so that no influence of idol worshipping would infiltrate the nation of Isreal

You really don't see the contradiction here? The fact that this is easily comparable to any genocidal maniacal leader through history is proof enough that this god of yours is evil. I'm not sure how you can justify genocide for the preservation of bloodlines (murder is murder), but I'm eager to hear it.

We can not know the wisdom and mind of God and to equate it with human minds is only going to block your understanding of how Grace is the ultimate gift.

Blindly following an authority figure with the promise of an irrational goal has lead to the worst atrocities in mankind's history.

  We cannot understand the will and actions of God, that is what I was stating, that is where Faith comes in. Perhaps if ya`ll would just find a salvation teaching church and let`s vsay just go in order to cover all your bases, just in case all this about God is true. Then you can ask questions, learn, investigate if need be, then you`ll have a better understanding of what you`re commenting on. In the meantime I`ll be praying for you, that won`t interrupt any aspect of your lives negatively

[claysherrod]

Has anybody ever read the Nag Hammadi Library? These are gospels that were written that did not make the original Canon. I am currently a seminary student earning my degree in counseling ministry and have had the opportunities to read these. They give a different context at times, but I feel in my own spirit that they are relevant. Like the Gospel of Mary, that talked about the importance of women in the ministry, which is in exact opposite of the traditional way of thinking.

Also, the Gospel of Thomas is a great one for people like me trying to become a counselor. It has some very deep stuff in there. There is also a Gospel of Judas.

Many get a little spooked by this, but I feel in my soul that they are documents that can be trusted. Take a look at them sometime.

[Falconer02]

We cannot understand the will and actions of God, that is what I was stating, that is where Faith comes in.

There's good faith, and then there's irrational and bad faith. Putting blind trust in a maniacal, genocidal, and tyrannical sky god who's invisible is deplorable behavior. If "Just have faith!" is your answer to my simple questions, then you obviously cannot give realistic answers.

Perhaps if ya`ll would just find a salvation teaching church and let`s vsay just go in order to cover all your bases, just in case all this about God is true.

And what if one of the other hundreds of thousands of religions through history was true and you have it wrong? It seems to cover all your bases, you'd need to study all of them with the same attachment you currently have to christianity. But I'm certain you know your religion is the correct one despite the numerous faults, right? Just like all of the other people who think they have the correct one that aren't of your belief system?

Many get a little spooked by this, but I feel in my soul that they are documents that can be trusted. Take a look at them sometime.

People with personal convictions about metaphysical claims should not lead others to believe the same without substantiating proof.

[Falconer02]

Hi Bro....ehhh Im never that far away....just been busy building on my house etc. need to get it to a point where I can put it on the market and start making my way back east to the homeland.

Oh! Yeah a lot of veteran-posters seemed to have disappeared around here lately. I hope all is well though!

Looks like not much has changed here....carry on.... LOL

Surprisingly the crazy-religious threads have been pretty sparse lately. Not that I'm complaining...

[batmobile]

ok... so our world today has a twisted view of christianity...

Every view of xtianity in the present is twisted. And that's a good thing. If you were to obey what the ancient texts originally said, you'd probably go to jail pretty quickly. Slave ownership, commanded genocide, the stoning of children, etc.

its ok to not be perfect... don't judge us...

I'll reserve the right to judge due to the atrocities started and maintained by this religion.

You are funny... agnostics are great!  Hey read apologetics logical falacies will give you a headache dude