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jmccaskill

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Re: Are you for or against Obama care?
« Reply #30 on: May 09, 2013, 12:28:33 pm »
NO ONE in the US is without healthcare as the system existed before Obama, NO ONE! Certainly it was not the best of worlds then, emergency rooms/hospitials COULD NOT refuse services for critical care regaradless of the patients' ability to pay. These costs were/are passed on to those that can pay (i.e. those that have insurance that can be billed). So though it was far from ideal it was functioning as is without Washington and its surrogates getting their hands into the matter any further than they already were.

ObamaCare if fully implemented will destroy almost everyone's ability to chose any aspect of their healthcare. Eventually GOVERNMENT beauracrats will determine what treatments, medicines and care YOU can receive, all determined by their magic formulas on 'cost effectiveness' which has NO COMPASSION for anyone. Obama himself has stated this is the goal.

Regardless of what is hyped about the good this might do, it won't... be afraind, very afraid...

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Re: Are you for or against Obama care?
« Reply #31 on: May 09, 2013, 02:30:29 pm »
   I think Obama is one the worst president ever. He should have sent troops in | when they Our intimacy over there in the middle east. So he can get reelected last falls.

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Re: Are you for or against Obama care?
« Reply #32 on: May 09, 2013, 04:44:48 pm »
Curious what everyone thinks on Obama care being mandated next year, what are your feelings on it?

I say revoke, repeal and get rid of it like the plague it is!!!!!!  It will not do anyone any good at all except COST WAY MORE THAN ANYONE CAN OR WANTS TO AFFORD and by the way, IF IT'S SO "GREAT" WHY DOES THE CONGRESS AND SENATE WANT TO BE "EXEMPT" FROM IT!!!!!!  I smell a rat!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: Are you for or against Obama care?
« Reply #33 on: May 09, 2013, 05:35:25 pm »
I haven't heard any thing good about Obama care. I have heard that it's going to cost us all more and give most of us less coverage than we have now. There has to be a better solution out thedre.

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Re: Are you for or against Obama care?
« Reply #34 on: May 09, 2013, 05:57:34 pm »
I haven't heard of this care before I would like to know my infor on it.
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Re: Are you for or against Obama care?
« Reply #35 on: May 09, 2013, 06:26:06 pm »
All I can say is that Obama Care has not done anything good for me.

My personal health insurance that I pay for on my own had a premium
increase of over $80 instead of the normal $20 to $30 that it used to increase.

I don't see where it's going to help us little people that pay
for our own insurance.

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Re: Are you for or against Obama care?
« Reply #36 on: May 09, 2013, 08:44:43 pm »
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It's going to bankrupt the country so I'm against it.
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No, it isn't. If you actually think a country can go "bankrupt" you don't understand economics.

News flash for both of you. America IS bankrupt, and has been for some time. Financial collapse is imminent, and planned. Simple truth. You had best be prepared for the chaos that is inevitable once it happens, and it will, because as I said, it has been planned this way for a long time. Wake up. If you aren't storing food, supplies, and weapons, and developing a plan to deal with it, to include escaping into hiding, then you are a damn fool, period. Obama will be our last president, I guarantee it. War is coming to the states, and the enemy is right here at home. Truth!

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Re: Are you for or against Obama care?
« Reply #37 on: May 09, 2013, 09:14:10 pm »
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Curious what everyone thinks on Obama care being mandated next year, what are your feelings on it?

Varying, really. Most first world countries have very similar plans in place and (for the most part) work decently. The problem is is the other countries made there reforms in more stable financial times and we're doing ours in unstable times. It was said that our premiums would go down, but I expect them to go up. I have privatized health insurance and it's gone from 190 to 220 in the last year alone. And I was interested to see someone else saying the same thing earlier in this thread.

Here's the thing though- if you think healthcare was working fine before the AHCA was introduced, you're completely naive (or ignorant) to why it hasn't been for a long time. Very few people who were being treated by doctors and going to the ER were paying their bills-- either because they couldn't or they just bailed on it because they knew they wouldn't be turned away. Trips to these are ludicrously expensive for people who are uninsured. Why did it cost 2000$+ for a doctor to do 10-15 seconds of work to pop my shoulder back into place? Why did it cost me 700$+ to wait 2 hours in the ER to talk to a doctor about a neck problem for less than 5 minutes? These are no exhaggerations! I couldn't get health insurance at the time due to a pre-existing condition, so when I was injured, I had no other choice. Imagine what would happen if I had a 5 or 6 digit bill! The system is laughably ridiculous. Something needed to be done about that.

At this point I just hope some good comes out of it. I do not want what happened to me to happen to others. It's completely unfair to pay that much, so if the reform can pillow me from that crap as well as others, I'm fine with it.

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News flash for both of you. America IS bankrupt, and has been for some time. Financial collapse is imminent, and planned. Simple truth. You had best be prepared for the chaos that is inevitable once it happens, and it will, because as I said, it has been planned this way for a long time. Wake up. If you aren't storing food, supplies, and weapons, and developing a plan to deal with it, to include escaping into hiding, then you are a damn fool, period. Obama will be our last president, I guarantee it. War is coming to the states, and the enemy is right here at home. Truth!

You make it seem like Obama will be the cause of the Mad Max-style post apocalyptic world. And if everyone thought like you, I'm sure it would happen! Fortunately most of us aren't fearmongering survivalists, so you may go back to your fallout shelter and lock the vault door. We'll continue watching the future unfold out here with a little optimism.

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Re: Are you for or against Obama care?
« Reply #38 on: May 09, 2013, 11:14:07 pm »
To be quite honest I am against it because it is a tax that is going to be hard to repeal.

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Re: Are you for or against Obama care?
« Reply #39 on: May 10, 2013, 10:49:03 am »
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It's going to bankrupt the country so I'm against it.
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No, it isn't. If you actually think a country can go "bankrupt" you don't understand economics.

News flash for both of you. America IS bankrupt, and has been for some time. Financial collapse is imminent, and planned. Simple truth. You had best be prepared for the chaos that is inevitable once it happens, and it will, because as I said, it has been planned this way for a long time. Wake up. If you aren't storing food, supplies, and weapons, and developing a plan to deal with it, to include escaping into hiding, then you are a damn fool, period. Obama will be our last president, I guarantee it. War is coming to the states, and the enemy is right here at home. Truth!

So you typed this out, read it, then still hit "post"

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Re: Are you for or against Obama care?
« Reply #40 on: May 10, 2013, 01:23:54 pm »
Here is a real shocker!! Today it was announced that the IRS (tax folks) were selecting out certain tax exempt allplications for 'special consideration'. Those that were getting this special attention were organizations with certain words or indicators in their names, such as Patriot, or Tea Party, or any number of things that they deemed them to be 'conservative' or 'anti-Obama'... how do you like that? Regardless of your political views, this is nothing short of criminal and an absolute abuse of power/authority being exercised for political reasons!! It is an outrage... now the good part is that this same IRS is THE designate 'enforcer' that is to assure YOU actively take part in The Affordable Care Act (ObamaCare)... how does that settle with ya? grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

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Re: Are you for or against Obama care?
« Reply #41 on: May 10, 2013, 03:22:55 pm »
Here is a real shocker!! Today it was announced that the IRS (tax folks) were selecting out certain tax exempt allplications for 'special consideration'. Those that were getting this special attention were organizations with certain words or indicators in their names, such as Patriot, or Tea Party, or any number of things that they deemed them to be 'conservative' or 'anti-Obama'... how do you like that? Regardless of your political views, this is nothing short of criminal and an absolute abuse of power/authority being exercised for political reasons!! It is an outrage... now the good part is that this same IRS is THE designate 'enforcer' that is to assure YOU actively take part in The Affordable Care Act (ObamaCare)... how does that settle with ya? grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

Oh it was "announced?"  Where?

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Re: Are you for or against Obama care?
« Reply #42 on: May 10, 2013, 03:35:08 pm »
It is being covered by all the major media as best I can tell, I heard it on the radio, ABC affiliate.

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Re: Are you for or against Obama care?
« Reply #43 on: May 11, 2013, 08:21:50 am »
I think that Obama is a great leader but the Obama care (and/or Romney care-had he made it into office) is not a good concept.  I think that it is an excercise in socialism and imposes a greater burden on people that have sacrificed so much to get into jobs that have great benefits. I am aghast at the amount of money that flows from our household's income directly into insurance companies: eighteen hundred/year for homeowners, fourty eight hundred/year for auto, twelve hundred for life....and now our health insurance has gone from fourty eight hundred up to ninety two hundred dollars per year.  There has to be a better way to cover the masses without doubling my premiums.

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Re: Are you for or against Obama care?
« Reply #44 on: May 11, 2013, 10:49:08 pm »
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It is being covered by all the major media as best I can tell, I heard it on the radio, ABC affiliate.

Would you mind if I asked for a link on this? I'm curious about it.

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and now our health insurance has gone from fourty eight hundred up to ninety two hundred dollars per year.  There has to be a better way to cover the masses without doubling my premiums.

WOAH seriously? Why is that? Did you have another kid or get terribly injured or something?

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