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Re: Herbal and Natural Remedies.
« Reply #45 on: March 11, 2013, 03:12:01 pm »
This is a topic for those who want to share, learn about, or compare natural remedies for common and not so common ailments.

Natural remedies may include diets.

Ailments may range from the common cold to cancer. 

Please keep the suggestions helpful.  Please avoid name-calling. 

Thank you.

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I, for one believe natural remedies to be much, much better than any pill in a bottle!!!  I think any medicine the doctor prescribes would probably help the current problem but, somewhere down the line IT CREATES ANOTHER PROBLEM!!!!  Guess you know I would rather stay away from the "prescriptions"!!!!!

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« Reply #46 on: March 11, 2013, 04:44:05 pm »
i perfer natural remedies

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« Reply #47 on: March 12, 2013, 07:20:22 am »
They're okay to use if you need an excess of a certain vitamin, or if you're looking to alleviate the common cold. But please, leave the debilitating diseases to doctors. Saying that natural remedies can cure cancer leads to false hope, and that false hope could distract from any possible actual cure that might come about.


I understand your point of view, hon.  But, many of us have experience which says otherwise.  This is a topic for those of us to share herbal remedies.

If you disagree with these remedies or feel that only doctors are the answer, then you probably should not post on this topic. 

No one has said that natural remedies can cure cancer, but many cancer treatments are *derived* from natural remedies.  You probably do not realize that many of the medicines on the market are derived from plants, such as the heart medicine digitalin, or aspirin, or any other number of medicines.

Again, if you are going to be negative, then I must ask you not to post here.

I do realize that medicine derives from plants. Almost everything that we use derives from plants. It doesn't matter if something derives from plants, what matters is the end product. If the end product isn't going to cure something, and doesn't have the scientific merit to say that it can cure something, then saying that it can cure something is immoral and devious. You can't get around the argument that saying cancer treatments are derived from plants and therefore those plants are just as effective and we should therefore criticize medicine.

Also remember, a lot of natural remedies have little to do with plants and are all in the mind (acupuncture and chiropractic practices come to mind). These things have absolutely no scientific merit at all, and there is no evidence to suggest that they can cure anything other than a backache. And just because you have experiences that say otherwise, doesn't mean you are right. That's the entire point of science, to have a measure of reality outside just the experiences of a few people. If just anyone could determine reality for everyone else, then we would be listening to crack pots and con men and hold their opinions to a much higher standard.

I have the full right to express these views unless the owner of this forum says otherwise. I am not expressing a negative view, just an opposing one. If you really don't want me to post further, that's fine (I don't have much else to say anyway). I just hope you realize that there are other people out there who don't agree with you, and if you open a thread (as you did) then other people are going to post a dissenting viewpoint. I don't see your posts as negative, only different from mine. I would think more people would be enamored if someone post an opposing viewpoint on their thread, since it shows that people actually care. Since you obviously don't hold that view point, I will avoid posting further and allow you to continue your thread without opposition. A warning to anyone else that may post and opposing viewpoint on this thread: Don't bother, your ideas are not welcome in these parts.

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« Reply #48 on: March 12, 2013, 07:30:10 am »
Well, I have always believed than they are better than what the hungry pharmaceuticals sell; and some doctors are good for it.  In December I had an hysterectomy done and the after effects were Insomnia, hot flashes and anxiety.  So I called my doctor and believe it or not, she told me that even though the symptoms were common, she did NOT  believe and prescribing anything for it, she referred me to an Herbologist and Acupuncturist and told me to put me woes to her, that her remedies where the best for my issues.

So I did and it was a God sent, she gave me some acupuncture treatments that help immensely and some natural made remedies that have almost cure me of everything I had, including migraines, which had nothing to do with my surgery.

I would give a try to anything Natural and Herbal before I die from side effects for narcotics and others out there, the pharmaceutical companies are killing us just so they can enlarge their pockets.
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« Reply #49 on: March 12, 2013, 08:50:23 am »
natural is definitely better...need to learn all i can
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« Reply #50 on: March 12, 2013, 09:32:58 am »
There are lots of things that are good for you, but the pharmaceutical companies would rather get you doped up and feeling worse
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« Reply #51 on: March 12, 2013, 12:03:35 pm »
They're okay to use if you need an excess of a certain vitamin, or if you're looking to alleviate the common cold. But please, leave the debilitating diseases to doctors. Saying that natural remedies can cure cancer leads to false hope, and that false hope could distract from any possible actual cure that might come about.


I understand your point of view, hon.  But, many of us have experience which says otherwise.  This is a topic for those of us to share herbal remedies.

If you disagree with these remedies or feel that only doctors are the answer, then you probably should not post on this topic. 

No one has said that natural remedies can cure cancer, but many cancer treatments are *derived* from natural remedies.  You probably do not realize that many of the medicines on the market are derived from plants, such as the heart medicine digitalin, or aspirin, or any other number of medicines.

Again, if you are going to be negative, then I must ask you not to post here.

I do realize that medicine derives from plants. Almost everything that we use derives from plants. It doesn't matter if something derives from plants, what matters is the end product. If the end product isn't going to cure something, and doesn't have the scientific merit to say that it can cure something, then saying that it can cure something is immoral and devious. You can't get around the argument that saying cancer treatments are derived from plants and therefore those plants are just as effective and we should therefore criticize medicine.

Also remember, a lot of natural remedies have little to do with plants and are all in the mind (acupuncture and chiropractic practices come to mind). These things have absolutely no scientific merit at all, and there is no evidence to suggest that they can cure anything other than a backache. And just because you have experiences that say otherwise, doesn't mean you are right. That's the entire point of science, to have a measure of reality outside just the experiences of a few people. If just anyone could determine reality for everyone else, then we would be listening to crack pots and con men and hold their opinions to a much higher standard.

I have the full right to express these views unless the owner of this forum says otherwise. I am not expressing a negative view, just an opposing one. If you really don't want me to post further, that's fine (I don't have much else to say anyway). I just hope you realize that there are other people out there who don't agree with you, and if you open a thread (as you did) then other people are going to post a dissenting viewpoint. I don't see your posts as negative, only different from mine. I would think more people would be enamored if someone post an opposing viewpoint on their thread, since it shows that people actually care. Since you obviously don't hold that view point, I will avoid posting further and allow you to continue your thread without opposition. A warning to anyone else that may post and opposing viewpoint on this thread: Don't bother, your ideas are not welcome in these parts.


I know many people who suffer from chronic illnesses.  Many people.  And the damage done to them by doctors and "medicine" is terrible.  A great many people, as a matter of fact, have left western medicine behind because the active compounds in these plants do help them.

Yes, active compounds.  Just like caffeine is coffee, and the opium poppy creates sedation.  Active compounds that give them better relief, less side effects, and many other benefits.

NOWHERE did I say that any plant or herb could cure cancer.  What I did say is that they are used by doctors as treatments.  I did say that diets were used to help bring the body into remission.



I honestly feel sorry for you, because you come into a community of adults, adults free to make our own choices.  We are not babies.  We can and do think for ourselves.  Somehow, this offends you.  It offends you that many people have found a better way of life FREE of medicines and doctors. 

I have Limbic system damage because a doctor misdiagnosed me and wrongly prescribed me with a certain medication.  I am not the only one.  I know many people with horror stories.  Because I have this information, I am here to help them.  I am here to help the people who want to actively choose for themselves what their quality of life will be - and that choice led to holistic care.  I am here for them. 

You don't agree.  Hey that's fine.  But, please, do not come here insulting people who want to live their lives in their own way.  Do not insult people who have found better a better quality of life through these methods.   If you do not agree with it, then don't post here.  You are just another negative influence in the lives of people who want to treat themselves in life-affirming, positive ways. 

I suggest reading, "The Shaman's Apprentice". 


This is the last time I am going to converse with you.  I am asking you to not waste your time here belittling others simply because you *believe* differently. 

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« Reply #52 on: March 12, 2013, 12:35:39 pm »
Herb of the day:  Cannabis  (Sativa and Indica)

The marijuana plant, or cannabis, has been used for thousands of years by various countries and cultures, and is listed in the Pharmacopoeia or medicinal books of many of those cultures.   Pliny the Elder, Pen Ts'ao Ching, and even the Zoroasters listed the analgesic and narcotic effects of the plants in their writings.

Disclaimer:  I am in no way advocating that anyone uses cannabis.  As an adult, you have the right to make your own decision.  In many states, it is illegal.  In other states, such as California, Washington, and Colorado, it is not illegal to use.  In fact, one of the biggest reasons why it was made illegal in the United States was race relations, and had nothing to do with any dangers.  Since then, it has been classified as more dangerous than cocaine, which is laughable.

The properties are far too numerous to name. The plant contains over 400 active compounds, with D-9 THC being the one mostly widely known. It is an effective agent against nausea.  It helps pain control.  (Many people with Multiple Sclerosis use this plant.  Myself included.  I have a "medical" card issued by the state of California which allows me to use this plant without legal ramifications.) 

Some of the studies that have been done on this plant have shown intense promise. 

Here are just some articles showing its efficacy:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/01/cannabis-for-infants-brai_n_2224898.html


http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn6283-cannabis-extract-shrinks-brain-tumours.html


There is research which shows that cannabis will kill cancer cells in the brain without harming healthy tissue. 

http://www.braatah.com/marijuana-kills-brain-cancer-cells/



People who suffer a wide variety of diseases report many therapeutic benefits, as well.  Nausea, pain, seizures, neuralgia, menstrual aches and pains, lack of appetite -- all of these things, and many more are treated.  The five most common ailments that people treat with cannabis are:  Nausea/Vomiting, Loss of Appetite, Muscle Spasms, Pain, and Insomnia. 

THC is available in pill form.  In some places, the pill is covered by traditional insurance. 


Here is another article which provides links to case studies:

http://www.cannabis-med.org/english/patients-use.htm




This information is provided for those who want to learn more.  Again, I am not advocating the use or abuse of Cannabis.  If you choose to use marijuana, that is your choice alone.  If you choose to NOT use it, that is also your choice alone.  However, please do not debate the morality of the issue.  Please do not insult those who do use it for medicinal reasons. 

If you cannot say something nice, in other words, don't say it at all.


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« Reply #53 on: March 12, 2013, 12:38:41 pm »
Well, I have always believed than they are better than what the hungry pharmaceuticals sell; and some doctors are good for it.  In December I had an hysterectomy done and the after effects were Insomnia, hot flashes and anxiety.  So I called my doctor and believe it or not, she told me that even though the symptoms were common, she did NOT  believe and prescribing anything for it, she referred me to an Herbologist and Acupuncturist and told me to put me woes to her, that her remedies where the best for my issues.

So I did and it was a God sent, she gave me some acupuncture treatments that help immensely and some natural made remedies that have almost cure me of everything I had, including migraines, which had nothing to do with my surgery.

I would give a try to anything Natural and Herbal before I die from side effects for narcotics and others out there, the pharmaceutical companies are killing us just so they can enlarge their pockets.


Thank you for sharing this.  I appreciate it.

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« Reply #54 on: March 12, 2013, 12:46:53 pm »
For the earache...(even after swimming)

We always pour hydrogen peroxide into the hurting ear, wait a few minutes, and the drain (tipping head over to other side into tissue or cotton ball, then pour some fresh water in and let sit few minutes and drain.  A few times a day always does the trick for us!

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« Reply #55 on: March 12, 2013, 04:09:57 pm »
i put mayo in my hair to make it softer and vinegar when its needed. i feel that vinegar helps take all the toxins out of the hair but what do i know?

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« Reply #56 on: March 12, 2013, 04:43:25 pm »
It is interesting to learn about herbal supplements, but I have to be very careful as I am on coumadin and some herbs reallly would not be good for me!

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« Reply #57 on: March 12, 2013, 04:45:46 pm »
It is interesting to learn about herbal supplements, but I have to be very careful as I am on coumadin and some herbs reallly would not be good for me!

That's right.  Many plants have blood thinning properties, so they would not mix with coumadin.  There are many websites, however, that will give a contraindication of plants and medications.  Some plants also help coagulate the blood. 

I would not recommend ginger or garlic for you.  They have both been known to interfere with coumadin.  Coumadin also interacts with cranberries.

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« Reply #58 on: March 13, 2013, 05:32:41 am »
i dont know if she can be helpes but here is a list of her health issues in the order that she knew about them hypothyroid high blood pressure ra diabettic fibromyalgia(all these from an accident nerve damage chronic back pain sciatic nerve problems headaches migraines) she had the carpal tunnel release done but unnfortunately it didnt take and now her hands and arms are going numb
she has tried the herbs and vitamins before but it didnt work but she nor i know that much about the subject

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« Reply #59 on: March 13, 2013, 07:10:44 am »
I was reading through this section and I became very sad when I heard there are people who wish to use natural remedies but feel they cannot afford them because they are on food stamps. Don't worry there are many natural food stores that accept food stamps seek them out in your community. If you work at other websites that give Amazon gift cards as rewards you can get herbs and organic oils through them as well as vitamins and minerals. So don't despair.
there was a lady who had migraines and she doesn't like taking drugs and wanted to try a more natural approach. Burdock root tea has been reported to clean the blood stream of toxins and help people with that issue. there is also Golden Seal root tea (I can personally attest) will beat up a cold and throw it out of your body. I think it is a beautiful journey you are all on. Keep it up! If you suffer from stress try Chamomile tea. :)

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