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southernhorizons

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The new Gestapo has struck!
« on: December 14, 2012, 09:04:58 am »
The reign of terror of the second Hitler is already started. The new Gestapo is getting people used to federal raids any time, any where, even when there is no need for such tactics.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFALonjLay0&feature=share&list=FL9GePUGndndX7IVbyrcG3rQ

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Re: The new Gestapo has struck!
« Reply #1 on: December 14, 2012, 06:24:18 pm »
If you really want to be horrified google US Army re-education camps. They are planning to detain US citizens in these camps and have admitted to it. The American people better wake up before it's too late.

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Re: The new Gestapo has struck!
« Reply #2 on: December 14, 2012, 10:28:52 pm »

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Re: The new Gestapo has struck!
« Reply #3 on: December 17, 2012, 03:44:51 pm »
Congress maintained its hands-off approach to detention during the entirety of President Bush’s two terms in office, even as it legislated on closely related issues like minimum standards of humane treatment and the rules for military commission proceedings.  When Obama took office in January 2009, however, Congress’s attitude changed.  Many members of Congress reacted negatively to Obama’s stated goal of closing Guantanamo, and, since that time, Congress has imposed various ever tighter restrictions on the release and transfer of detainees.

One last historical fact that is important to remember, when considering the scope of the NDAA, is that the Bush administration held two American citizens in indefinite military detention, Yaser Hamdi and Jose Padilla.  While Hamdi was picked up as a combatant in Afghanistan in 2002, Padilla was arrested in a civilian setting in Chicago that same year.  The Padilla case was never definitively adjudicated—Padilla was finally moved to the civilian justice system in 2006 — but it underscores the Bush administration’s claim of power to hold even American citizens picked up in the United States indefinitely without trial.What is now known as Subtitle D of the NDAA—the section on detention—made its first appearance in March of this year.  Called the Detainee Security Act in the House, and the Military Detainee Procedures Improvement Act in the Senate, the bills, introduced by Representative Buck McKeon and Senator John McCain, respectively, were meant to shift counterterrorism responsibilities from law enforcement to the military. The clear goal of the two bills was to require that suspected terrorists either be tried before military commissions or be held in indefinite detention without charge.http://www.counterpunch.org/2011/12/22/the-national-defense-authorization-act-explained/
Really this big bad thing you folks speak of that Obama signed is actually something that many presidents before him have signed and put into law. Congress is who came up with all of this detention things and what to do with terrorist on american soil and abroad. See if people actually do research you will find real answers and not keep listening to people who real agenda is that they do not want a black President. If any President wanted to detain american citizens it was that of Bush and his administration. Get the facts and stop listening to folks with theories that they cook up to get people to gather with them and play out their real agendas. Sad Sad Sad.

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Re: The new Gestapo has struck!
« Reply #4 on: December 18, 2012, 10:22:11 am »
Congress maintained its hands-off approach to detention during the entirety of President Bush’s two terms in office, even as it legislated on closely related issues like minimum standards of humane treatment and the rules for military commission proceedings.  When Obama took office in January 2009, however, Congress’s attitude changed.  Many members of Congress reacted negatively to Obama’s stated goal of closing Guantanamo, and, since that time, Congress has imposed various ever tighter restrictions on the release and transfer of detainees.

One last historical fact that is important to remember, when considering the scope of the NDAA, is that the Bush administration held two American citizens in indefinite military detention, Yaser Hamdi and Jose Padilla.  While Hamdi was picked up as a combatant in Afghanistan in 2002, Padilla was arrested in a civilian setting in Chicago that same year.  The Padilla case was never definitively adjudicated—Padilla was finally moved to the civilian justice system in 2006 — but it underscores the Bush administration’s claim of power to hold even American citizens picked up in the United States indefinitely without trial.What is now known as Subtitle D of the NDAA—the section on detention—made its first appearance in March of this year.  Called the Detainee Security Act in the House, and the Military Detainee Procedures Improvement Act in the Senate, the bills, introduced by Representative Buck McKeon and Senator John McCain, respectively, were meant to shift counterterrorism responsibilities from law enforcement to the military. The clear goal of the two bills was to require that suspected terrorists either be tried before military commissions or be held in indefinite detention without charge.http://www.counterpunch.org/2011/12/22/the-national-defense-authorization-act-explained/
Really this big bad thing you folks speak of that Obama signed is actually something that many presidents before him have signed and put into law. Congress is who came up with all of this detention things and what to do with terrorist on american soil and abroad. See if people actually do research you will find real answers and not keep listening to people who real agenda is that they do not want a black President. If any President wanted to detain american citizens it was that of Bush and his administration. Get the facts and stop listening to folks with theories that they cook up to get people to gather with them and play out their real agendas. Sad Sad Sad.
I never said that previous presidents are not to blame. this takeover by the new *bleep*/ communist regime is not new, it has been many years in the making. democrats and republicans are both guilty; in fact it was Bush, before he was president, who did a lot to push FEMA being in control of the concentration camps. I know it has been going on at least since Clinton's era; probably planned many years before that.
However, it does seem that democrat presidents are more likely to target American citizens, look at all the stuff Clinton did, and Obama already isn't far behind. Just wait until the anti-gun crackdown; it will make Waco seem tame.

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Re: The new Gestapo has struck!
« Reply #5 on: December 18, 2012, 02:34:15 pm »
Congress maintained its hands-off approach to detention during the entirety of President Bush’s two terms in office, even as it legislated on closely related issues like minimum standards of humane treatment and the rules for military commission proceedings.  When Obama took office in January 2009, however, Congress’s attitude changed.  Many members of Congress reacted negatively to Obama’s stated goal of closing Guantanamo, and, since that time, Congress has imposed various ever tighter restrictions on the release and transfer of detainees.

One last historical fact that is important to remember, when considering the scope of the NDAA, is that the Bush administration held two American citizens in indefinite military detention, Yaser Hamdi and Jose Padilla.  While Hamdi was picked up as a combatant in Afghanistan in 2002, Padilla was arrested in a civilian setting in Chicago that same year.  The Padilla case was never definitively adjudicated—Padilla was finally moved to the civilian justice system in 2006 — but it underscores the Bush administration’s claim of power to hold even American citizens picked up in the United States indefinitely without trial.What is now known as Subtitle D of the NDAA—the section on detention—made its first appearance in March of this year.  Called the Detainee Security Act in the House, and the Military Detainee Procedures Improvement Act in the Senate, the bills, introduced by Representative Buck McKeon and Senator John McCain, respectively, were meant to shift counterterrorism responsibilities from law enforcement to the military. The clear goal of the two bills was to require that suspected terrorists either be tried before military commissions or be held in indefinite detention without charge.http://www.counterpunch.org/2011/12/22/the-national-defense-authorization-act-explained/
Really this big bad thing you folks speak of that Obama signed is actually something that many presidents before him have signed and put into law. Congress is who came up with all of this detention things and what to do with terrorist on american soil and abroad. See if people actually do research you will find real answers and not keep listening to people who real agenda is that they do not want a black President. If any President wanted to detain american citizens it was that of Bush and his administration. Get the facts and stop listening to folks with theories that they cook up to get people to gather with them and play out their real agendas. Sad Sad Sad.
I never said that previous presidents are not to blame. this takeover by the new *bleep*/ communist regime is not new, it has been many years in the making. democrats and republicans are both guilty; in fact it was Bush, before he was president, who did a lot to push FEMA being in control of the concentration camps. I know it has been going on at least since Clinton's era; probably planned many years before that.
However, it does seem that democrat presidents are more likely to target American citizens, look at all the stuff Clinton did, and Obama already isn't far behind. Just wait until the anti-gun crackdown; it will make Waco seem tame.
LOL Democrat Presidents most likely to target American citizens. Bush had already did it and detained them without trial or anything else. I think he is Republican. Obama wants to close detention camps like these it is congress who want to keep them open. Yes you can say that the NDAA been around for years if you do research you can go back as far as Herbert Hoover back in 1929. As the years go by America is getting worse and yes the gun laws should be revised because to many people are getting away with minor charges which they should be getting much steeper punishments. I don't condone taking away weapons from people who feel they wanna protect them self but who is gonna protect Americans from people who owns guns who are not responsible with them and then they get into the hands of young people who shoots up schools and such.

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