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hitch0403

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Re: Hunger
« Reply #15 on: November 11, 2012, 01:17:15 pm »
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the main reason why other countries are starving is not because they are not getting enough help. Its because their corrupt governments are bleeding the country dry (thus the reason why they are poor to begin with.) and any amount of donating to them will not solve their problem since these donations just go to feed the beast. If we are to end the worlds problems, we must end all forms of tyranny. The only form of government that works is a republic which allows for an almost completely free economy that is allowed to grow naturally on its own is the most effective means by which to increase the standard living of a countries citizens. This must start at home.

As long as the free economy watches for fraudulent behavior, I completely agree.

Which is why I said almost. Of course we need a court system that will allow people to fight against not only fraud in a criminal sense, but injustice in a civil sense.

You keep looking for mankind to solve the problem or his government.....when will you be convinced IT AINT HAPPENING!!

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Re: Hunger
« Reply #16 on: November 11, 2012, 01:37:41 pm »
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You keep looking for mankind to solve the problem or his government.....when will you be convinced IT AINT HAPPENING!!

Considering mankind and gov't promotion have erradicated diseases and solved many hunger issues through genetic manipulation and genius farming methods...I think that shows significance that it has already happened, but you're just too ignorant to notice it. If you're argument is "GOVERNMENTS WILL NEVER BE PERFECT!", well yeah. A kid can tell you that. If you believe that there can be a perfect government, you're not living in reality at all.

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Re: Hunger
« Reply #17 on: November 11, 2012, 02:10:18 pm »
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You keep looking for mankind to solve the problem or his government.....when will you be convinced IT AINT HAPPENING!!

Considering mankind and gov't promotion have erradicated diseases and solved many hunger issues through genetic manipulation and genius farming methods...I think that shows significance that it has already happened, but you're just too ignorant to notice it. If you're argument is "GOVERNMENTS WILL NEVER BE PERFECT!", well yeah. A kid can tell you that. If you believe that there can be a perfect government, you're not living in reality at all.

If you were any blinder youd bump into yourself!!!

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Re: Hunger
« Reply #18 on: November 11, 2012, 02:33:12 pm »
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If you were any blinder youd bump into yourself!!!

If so, please show me how governments haven't evolved since, say, 1000 years ago.

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Re: Hunger
« Reply #19 on: November 11, 2012, 02:40:41 pm »
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If you were any blinder youd bump into yourself!!!

If so, please show me how governments haven't evolved since, say, 1000 years ago.

Falconer2 i am not looking to rain on your parade.If you are happy with the worldwide situation of how mankind is governing this planet that is your choice.I am not happy with it and i also dont want to die.

Rather then worry about debating whether God exists or feuding with others why dont you put that energy to better use and go rescue an animal or stop child abuse.....or something along that line of helping others rather than just looking to be argumentive.

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« Reply #20 on: November 11, 2012, 02:43:14 pm »
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If you were any blinder youd bump into yourself!!!

The hypocritical irony of your false assumption isn't even close to being sublime.
One can lead a horse to water however, if one holds the horse's head under, that horse will drown.

             

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Re: Hunger
« Reply #21 on: November 11, 2012, 05:03:38 pm »
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Falconer2 i am not looking to rain on your parade.If you are happy with the worldwide situation of how mankind is governing this planet that is your choice.I am not happy with it and i also dont want to die.

Oh no, I'm not happy with it entirely. It could definitely use a lot of work, but considering how it was in the past, we are spoiled rotten. The fact that I can get up right now and walk a mile to grab a burger is amazing. I am aware of this though and appreciate how far we've come as a species. As far as dying goes, hey, it's part of life.

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Rather then worry about debating whether God exists or feuding with others why dont you put that energy to better use and go rescue an animal or stop child abuse.....or something along that line of helping others rather than just looking to be argumentive.

I actually do rescue animals. My dad and I are volunteer humane investigators in IL. I don't know of any child abusers though so I until then my baseball bat sits in the garage. And c'mon. This is debate and discuss. If you don't want to argue, dont be in this part of the forum!
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Re: Hunger
« Reply #22 on: November 11, 2012, 05:31:44 pm »
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Falconer2 i am not looking to rain on your parade.If you are happy with the worldwide situation of how mankind is governing this planet that is your choice.I am not happy with it and i also dont want to die.

Oh no, I'm not happy with it entirely. It could definitely use a lot of work, but considering how it was in the past, we are spoiled rotten. The fact that I can get up right now and walk a mile to grab a burger is amazing. I am aware of this though and appreciate how far we've come as a species. As far as dying goes, hey, it's part of life.

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Rather then worry about debating whether God exists or feuding with others why dont you put that energy to better use and go rescue an animal or stop child abuse.....or something along that line of helping others rather than just looking to be argumentive.

I actually do rescue animals. My dad and I are volunteer humane investigators in IL. I don't know of any child abusers though so I until then my baseball bat sits in the garage. And c'mon. This is debate and discuss. If you don't want to argue, dont be in this part of the forum!

Well again NOT to debate or argue we dont agree on dying.Even before i knew the truth <bible>i didnt accept it.Its unnatural.The bible calls it an enemy and it is.We have all lost loved ones.That in itself proves it by the grief we go thru.

Im glad to hear you rescue animals.I love them especially dogs.The amount of child abuse that goes on in this world is sickening.What i meant for you was if we all can do a something even if it helped 1 child it would be worth the effort...the same even with animals.

I am from NY...ILL eh?I am a big Bears fan.We are playing in a few minutes and i will have game on...they are tough this yr so far.

Sorry you are disppointed by my lack of D&D.I tend to clown around more with it when i sense the discussion isnt going anywheres.I dont find fault with non-believers of bible etc.Its my perception of how they come across when usually the mud slinging starts and even that gets us nowheres.

Anyway keep up the work rescuing the animals.Id like to say they are a gift from God to us but that might turn into a debate...LOL!!

Go Bears!!!

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Re: Hunger
« Reply #23 on: November 11, 2012, 05:47:27 pm »
If you knew the Billions of dollars in foreign aid we give to other countries, some of which hate us and want to destroy us, it would make you sick! Look it up in Wikipedia.

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Re: Hunger
« Reply #24 on: November 11, 2012, 05:55:43 pm »
If you knew the Billions of dollars in foreign aid we give to other countries, some of which hate us and want to destroy us, it would make you sick! Look it up in Wikipedia.

I am not surprised but again i expect it.....man will never stop it.


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Re: Hunger
« Reply #25 on: November 12, 2012, 09:06:34 am »
I am not thinking like a communist but I do think we need to solve our problems in the US before we go abroad to solve other countries problems. Matt 7:3 states that " And why do you look at the specks in your brothers eye , but do not consider the plank in your own eye?"  Why don't we look at the hunger in our own country first?

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Re: Hunger
« Reply #26 on: November 12, 2012, 04:15:55 pm »
VM,food shortages are just 1 of many signs the bible gives that we are living in the last days.

Even if we all went outta our way to try and eradicate it it will never happen.Gods kingdom that we pray for "on earth as in heaven"is only solution for ALL of mankinds problems.

ALL too many people know that but they still look to man for results.It shows what their hearts are really made of.

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Re: Hunger
« Reply #27 on: November 12, 2012, 04:19:21 pm »
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food shortages are just 1 of many signs the bible gives that we are living in the last days.

There have been food shortages throughout history and using that collection of faith-based superstitions for further faith-based superstitions is irrational.
One can lead a horse to water however, if one holds the horse's head under, that horse will drown.

             

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Re: Hunger
« Reply #28 on: November 12, 2012, 11:51:25 pm »
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Its unnatural.The bible calls it an enemy and it is.We have all lost loved ones.That in itself proves it by the grief we go thru.

Death isn't natural? It's part of life though.

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glad to hear you rescue animals.I love them especially dogs.The amount of child abuse that goes on in this world is sickening.What i meant for you was if we all can do a something even if it helped 1 child it would be worth the effort...the same even with animals.

Total agreement here.

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I am from NY...ILL eh?I am a big Bears fan.We are playing in a few minutes and i will have game on...they are tough this yr so far.

I'm unfortunately not much of a big sports fan, but I watch occasionally. Perhaps it's just that the majority of IL sports teams treat their fans like battered housewives-- even though they keep getting beaten, they keep coming back for more bad treatment! lol

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Its my perception of how they come across when usually the mud slinging starts and even that gets us nowheres.

Well not to point fingers but you are usually the cause of much of the mudslinging. But some advice I would like to give is it's all in how you read the post. Since there's no tone in text, it's important to read someone elses post with no preconceived tone unless it's extremely obvious. Also understand that people here are attacking your stances on an issues initially and not your personal well-being.

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Anyway keep up the work rescuing the animals.Id like to say they are a gift from God to us but that might turn into a debate...LOL!!

I'll go as far as to say if there were a legitimate argument for the existence of a kind deity, it would no doubt be through an argument involving dogs and people! lol

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Re: Hunger
« Reply #29 on: November 13, 2012, 02:24:06 am »
Every day thousand of people in this country are going hungry and not I don't see anyone or any other country helping them.  Why not take care of our own first and make sure no child or adult go to bed hungry.  Than help other countries.  Why not this country help stop the wars in the streets every day when we have thousands dying each day because of guns before we go fight other countries wars.  This country too busy helping everyone around the world but their own people.

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