Taxation without Representation

[king4cash]

Yes southernhorizons, I agree with you. Obama is about redistribution, taking from the rich and giving to the poor. That means he is all about Higher Taxes, and more spending. I hope the house put him in a corner, so that he will balance the budget finaly, so we do not go over the Financial clif as they would say.

[southernhorizons]

Yes southernhorizons, I agree with you. Obama is about redistribution, taking from the rich and giving to the poor. That means he is all about Higher Taxes, and more spending. I hope the house put him in a corner, so that he will balance the budget finaly, so we do not go over the Financial clif as they would say.

Except that he will just act without Congress, by executive order. We will definitely go over the financial cliff, unfortunately.

[momoney555]

Although there are other issues involved, I believe the only people in danger of going "over the cliff" are the wealthy whose tax cuts are scheduled to end on Dec. 31, 2012.  They have been enjoying the very unfair tax cut they lobbied for and won under the Bush Administration.  Business owners of businesses that make 250,000.00 or less will not be affected because they are the only ones who are developing jobs in the U S anyway.  Let them go over the cliff - they all have financial cushions to catch them.  That will be the only way they will be made to pay their fair share of taxes, ever.

[southernhorizons]

Although there are other issues involved, I believe the only people in danger of going "over the cliff" are the wealthy whose tax cuts are scheduled to end on Dec. 31, 2012.  They have been enjoying the very unfair tax cut they lobbied for and won under the Bush Administration.  Business owners of businesses that make 250,000.00 or less will not be affected because they are the only ones who are developing jobs in the U S anyway.  Let them go over the cliff - they all have financial cushions to catch them.  That will be the only way they will be made to pay their fair share of taxes, ever.

The rich will never go over the cliff, since they have all the politicians in their back pockets. Small business owners will be hurt the most by Obamacare, so yes, they will be affected. And whether or not the big businesses are really "hurt," if anythign cuts into their profits, like higher insurance costs, they will have no qualms about moving overseas and taking the jobs with them. So in the end, the ones that will be hurt the most are middle class working Americans.

[momoney555]

The rich will never go over the cliff, since they have all the politicians in their back pockets. Small business owners will be hurt the most by Obamacare, so yes, they will be affected. And whether or not the big businesses are really "hurt," if anythign cuts into their profits, like higher insurance costs, they will have no qualms about moving overseas and taking the jobs with them. So in the end, the ones that will be hurt the most are middle class working Americans.

Big business, all but for their physical buildings, moved overseas years ago. That's where all their jobs are now being created so that has already happened. Before all the greed that has run rampant due to deregulation, business supplied health and life insurance coverage to all of their workers in the form of benefit packages.  Maybe if Obama is able to reinstall some of those regulations lifted mostly by Republican policies of the past, this will bring down the cost of insurance and health care so that small and medium companies can again afford to insure their workers. This would do a lot to bring back those things that were the backbone of the Middle Class.

[heroftimes]

Yes, everyone should bow down to the big corporations because they could go away and take their toys with them.  People used to have a spine and stand up against these people with the help of unions, and everyone was doing much better than we are today.  But keep allowing them to buy our politicians, that will certainly make things much better.

Although there are other issues involved, I believe the only people in danger of going "over the cliff" are the wealthy whose tax cuts are scheduled to end on Dec. 31, 2012.  They have been enjoying the very unfair tax cut they lobbied for and won under the Bush Administration.  Business owners of businesses that make 250,000.00 or less will not be affected because they are the only ones who are developing jobs in the U S anyway.  Let them go over the cliff - they all have financial cushions to catch them.  That will be the only way they will be made to pay their fair share of taxes, ever.

The rich will never go over the cliff, since they have all the politicians in their back pockets. Small business owners will be hurt the most by Obamacare, so yes, they will be affected. And whether or not the big businesses are really "hurt," if anythign cuts into their profits, like higher insurance costs, they will have no qualms about moving overseas and taking the jobs with them. So in the end, the ones that will be hurt the most are middle class working Americans.

[momoney555]

Yes, everyone should bow down to the big corporations because they could go away and take their toys with them.  People used to have a spine and stand up against these people with the help of unions, and everyone was doing much better than we are today.  But keep allowing them to buy our politicians, that will certainly make things much better.

I could not have said it better.  You just described, in a nutshell, the whole premise of Mitt Romney, the Republican party, and their vision for america.  Corporate Rule!

[vickysue]

Romney did not put those loophole into the irs. Congress did, too take care of them selves. If i had the kind of money i would be looking for loopholes also. If congrees can do it so can the rest of the USA. And guess what they will not be using the Obamacare insurance either. What makes them think they are better then the rest of us. It is because the public let them get by with it. If your not a crook when you first go into congrss most will turn around and be one. It sucks. And in the long run the working class pays for most of it.

[Flackle]

I like how all these republicans are starting to call this system rigged when the same system allowed bush to be voted in even though he received less overall votes. Not that I really care, I consider the two parties to be near carbon copies of one another.

I voted for Gary Johnson and I usually vote libertarian (unless someone in another party happens to have libertarian ideals). So I guess I'm just used to the people I choose losing all the time.

[heroftimes]

The libertarian party is the direction the republicans should be heading.  Fiscal conservatism, increasing freedoms, while dropping the religious right's asinine views on social issues.  I think there's many "independents" in the country that would really identify with their platform.

I like how all these republicans are starting to call this system rigged when the same system allowed bush to be voted in even though he received less overall votes. Not that I really care, I consider the two parties to be near carbon copies of one another.

I voted for Gary Johnson and I usually vote libertarian (unless someone in another party happens to have libertarian ideals). So I guess I'm just used to the people I choose losing all the time.