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Re: VOTE for Mitt Romney!!
« Reply #45 on: November 01, 2012, 06:52:49 pm »



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I will also say that those who picket abortion clinics or place "VOTE PRO-LIFE" signs in their yards-- if they haven't adopted a child into their own loving family, they're dispicably hypocritical.




I gotta admit that is the dumbest thing I've read on here in a loooooong time. ::)
Why is that? Can you say being Pro Life is justifiable, but then don't count into the fact of all the kids born and are unwanted have to go somewhere. If you want to choose Pro Life then be fully into it. Protect all life of unwanted kids in the system to get them a stable home and a safe place to be and not have to be in a system.Where the Gov. has to take of these kids. Where they grow up with mental instabilities of why my mom and dad didn't want me (mostly on the mom). Maybe other things like mom being drugs and child born with disabilities. Yeah a heartbeat means dearly, but what about the kind of life that child has to look forward to. Who would put that on a innocent just cause people feel they deserve a life to. Yes all deserve a life but a life of hell and problems. Not all end up that way but people need to stay out of a woman's womb and her respect her privacy on her choices. Its no ones business what a woman chooses but her and the people she discuss it with.

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Re: VOTE for Mitt Romney!!
« Reply #46 on: November 01, 2012, 09:11:47 pm »


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I will also say that those who picket abortion clinics or place "VOTE PRO-LIFE" signs in their yards-- if they haven't adopted a child into their own loving family, they're dispicably hypocritical.


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I gotta admit that is the dumbest thing I've read on here in a loooooong time. ::)


I am a Christian and do not condone abortion but I have a real problem with Christians who are so pro life, so anti abortion, so anti birth control but don't acknowledge the fact that if those things are stopped, there is a  big problem left that needs to be dealt with.  What do we do with all the unwanted babies?  Is the Christian way just to stick them all in institutions, out of sight so we can all comfortably sit in our pews on Sundays and pretend they don't exist?  Yes, I feel pro life Christians should be the first people to step up and adopt, on a large scale.  What good is it to save these lives if you are not interested in doing anything to make sure those babies you save are not subjected to horrible lives of abuse and neglect. (and there are some real horror stories out there) What do you think happens to children without parents who want them?  I think pro life should mean more than just stopping the killing of babies but also pro lifers should be just as passionate and concerned about making sure there are loving homes for the babies saved.  
 
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Re: VOTE for Mitt Romney!!
« Reply #47 on: November 02, 2012, 12:02:44 am »
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am a Christian and do not condone abortion but I have a real problem with Christians who are so pro life

Momoney- don't take this kid seriously. You just got used by a species known as Interneticus Trollicus!

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I gotta admit that is the dumbest thing I've read on here in a loooooong time.

This from the guy who thinks the world is less than 10,000 years old. Keep on trollin', bro! We'll keep on laughin'!
« Last Edit: November 02, 2012, 12:08:56 am by Falconer02 »

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Re: VOTE for Mitt Romney!!
« Reply #48 on: November 02, 2012, 05:19:22 am »
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am a Christian and do not condone abortion but I have a real problem with Christians who are so pro life

Momoney- don't take this kid seriously. You just got used by a species known as Interneticus Trollicus!

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I gotta admit that is the dumbest thing I've read on here in a loooooong time.

This from the guy who thinks the world is less than 10,000 years old. Keep on trollin', bro! We'll keep on laughin'!

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Re: VOTE for Mitt Romney!!
« Reply #49 on: November 02, 2012, 12:52:32 pm »


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I will also say that those who picket abortion clinics or place "VOTE PRO-LIFE" signs in their yards-- if they haven't adopted a child into their own loving family, they're dispicably hypocritical.


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I gotta admit that is the dumbest thing I've read on here in a loooooong time. ::)


I am a Christian and do not condone abortion but I have a real problem with Christians who are so pro life, so anti abortion, so anti birth control but don't acknowledge the fact that if those things are stopped, there is a  big problem left that needs to be dealt with.  What do we do with all the unwanted babies?  Is the Christian way just to stick them all in institutions, out of sight so we can all comfortably sit in our pews on Sundays and pretend they don't exist?  Yes, I feel pro life Christians should be the first people to step up and adopt, on a large scale.  What good is it to save these lives if you are not interested in doing anything to make sure those babies you save are not subjected to horrible lives of abuse and neglect. (and there are some real horror stories out there) What do you think happens to children without parents who want them?  I think pro life should mean more than just stopping the killing of babies but also pro lifers should be just as passionate and concerned about making sure there are loving homes for the babies saved.  
 
Many are helping if you do the research.  Many adopt, foster, or are guardians, of many.  Many donate needed items and supplies to the needs of many kids.  Being pro-life does not necessarily mean they are only Christians or only Republicans - which means that everyone who is pro-life, should be helping in whatever way they can with these children.

Question:  What if your parents had decided they didn't want you when your mom got pregnant, and they aborted you?  How would that make you feel?

Question:  Where is the responsibility of these people who lay down together, without protection and/or birth control, knowing they could get her pregnant?

Question:  Is it right for a child to be killed off because they are "in the way" or "not wanted", or not the right gender?  There are people who are on waiting lists to adopt and/or foster babies through teens.  Who gets to speak for the unborn child - who is a child, but dependent upon the mother's vitals to survive in the womb until he/she can survive in the outside world?

Question:  Speaking of adoption, how many "gay" marriages do you think will have children, unless they adopt, or have a surrogate, or a seed implanted?  Keep aborting babies - there will be a lack of babies, not just from abortions, but from "gay" and "lesbian" couples not able to conceive on their own, without help from others having babies to adopt, etc.

Question:  How many future leaders, scientists, teachers/professors, pastors, singers, media and journalists, authors, and so much more, will be aborted before people finally understand the consequences of this? 

Thank you...

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« Reply #50 on: November 02, 2012, 01:04:57 pm »

Many are helping if you do the research.  Many adopt, foster, or are guardians, of many.  Many donate needed items and supplies to the needs of many kids.  Being pro-life does not necessarily mean they are only Christians or only Republicans - which means that everyone who is pro-life, should be helping in whatever way they can with these children.

Question:  What if your parents had decided they didn't want you when your mom got pregnant, and they aborted you?  How would that make you feel?

I wouldn't feel anything because I would have never existed.

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Question:  Where is the responsibility of these people who lay down together, without protection and/or birth control, knowing they could get her pregnant?

Ill agree to an extent, but whats more responsible, having a kid and not being able to care for it / begrudgingly care for it, or not having a kid peroid?

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Question:  Is it right for a child to be killed off because they are "in the way" or "not wanted", or not the right gender?  There are people who are on waiting lists to adopt and/or foster babies through teens.  Who gets to speak for the unborn child - who is a child, but dependent upon the mother's vitals to survive in the womb until he/she can survive in the outside world?

The "child" doesn't know any better at this point, do you remember being in the womb?

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Question:  Speaking of adoption, how many "gay" marriages do you think will have children, unless they adopt, or have a surrogate, or a seed implanted?  Keep aborting babies - there will be a lack of babies, not just from abortions, but from "gay" and "lesbian" couples not able to conceive on their own, without help from others having babies to adopt, etc.

7 BILLION people and growing on this planet, how many do you think we can reasonably accommodate considering there are already an exorbitant amount of people who are starving on a daily basis.  We don't need more people on this planet.  Also, you should be praising these "gay" parents for adopting and not shaming them as you xtians typically do.

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Question:  How many future leaders, scientists, teachers/professors, pastors, singers, media and journalists, authors, and so much more, will be aborted before people finally understand the consequences of this? 

See above.



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Re: VOTE for Mitt Romney!!
« Reply #51 on: November 02, 2012, 01:15:03 pm »
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What if your parents had decided they didn't want you when your mom got pregnant, and they aborted you?  How would that make you feel?

One would have never existed, and therefore one couldn't complain.

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Where is the responsibility of these people who lay down together, without protection and/or birth control, knowing they could get her pregnant?

Obviously with the couple. That's why pro-choice people are always strongly encouraging sexual education.

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Is it right for a child to be killed off because they are "in the way" or "not wanted", or not the right gender?  

You'd be biting off more than you can chew here since this question is on a vast worldly scale. It's unfortunate that in some countries they leave female babies to die off due to the couple wanting a male (ex- India). Others they just have abortions due to overpopulation problems (ex- China). Problem is, do you want the gov't to tell you what you can or cannot do with your body or do you want it to be within the rights of the woman/couple?

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Keep aborting babies - there will be a lack of babies, not just from abortions, but from "gay" and "lesbian" couples not able to conceive on their own, without help from others having babies to adopt, etc.

There's a problem with there being too many kids up for adoption though, so (atleast now and the past) this isn't a problem. That, and gay couples aren't going to suddenly expand gigantically. It's estimated that homosexual behavior makes up roughly 5% of the world's population, so straight couples will always be the standard.

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How many future leaders, scientists, teachers/professors, pastors, singers, media and journalists, authors, and so much more, will be aborted before people finally understand the consequences of this?  

I agree, though how many future HITLERS will be aborted!? lol Unfortunately this question above is speculative at best.
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Re: VOTE for Mitt Romney!!
« Reply #52 on: November 02, 2012, 01:19:47 pm »

Many are helping if you do the research.  Many adopt, foster, or are guardians, of many.  Many donate needed items and supplies to the needs of many kids.  Being pro-life does not necessarily mean they are only Christians or only Republicans - which means that everyone who is pro-life, should be helping in whatever way they can with these children.

Question:  What if your parents had decided they didn't want you when your mom got pregnant, and they aborted you?  How would that make you feel?

I wouldn't feel anything because I would have never existed.

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Question:  Where is the responsibility of these people who lay down together, without protection and/or birth control, knowing they could get her pregnant?

Ill agree to an extent, but whats more responsible, having a kid and not being able to care for it / begrudgingly care for it, or not having a kid peroid?

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Question:  Is it right for a child to be killed off because they are "in the way" or "not wanted", or not the right gender?  There are people who are on waiting lists to adopt and/or foster babies through teens.  Who gets to speak for the unborn child - who is a child, but dependent upon the mother's vitals to survive in the womb until he/she can survive in the outside world?

The "child" doesn't know any better at this point, do you remember being in the womb?

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Question:  Speaking of adoption, how many "gay" marriages do you think will have children, unless they adopt, or have a surrogate, or a seed implanted?  Keep aborting babies - there will be a lack of babies, not just from abortions, but from "gay" and "lesbian" couples not able to conceive on their own, without help from others having babies to adopt, etc.

7 BILLION people and growing on this planet, how many do you think we can reasonably accommodate considering there are already an exorbitant amount of people who are starving on a daily basis.  We don't need more people on this planet.  Also, you should be praising these "gay" parents for adopting and not shaming them as you xtians typically do.

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Question:  How many future leaders, scientists, teachers/professors, pastors, singers, media and journalists, authors, and so much more, will be aborted before people finally understand the consequences of this? 

See above.



As you don't know my thoughts towards gays, you don't need to assume to tell me what I "need" to do and not do.  These babies have a right at life that you had, I had, and many others have had.  Focusing on the ones who do want to have children and cannot, but would gladly adopt and/or foster, or having a surrogate, or seed implanted, gives those people at chance at having children they so desperately want, but can't have, and gives many of these children a chance at life with many who actually would want, love, and care for them.  There are always rotten people on both sides of that, but giving a child his right at life is important.  

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« Reply #53 on: November 02, 2012, 02:19:23 pm »
(Jcribb) There is a lot of babies already here on earth that they can adopt without adding more. Also the thought of what your saying is your opinion righteously so. Do not attempt to speak for all women, who which are the ones to give birth and carry such child.Nothing holding any Gay or straight couple from having a surrogate or adopting, as they would be supplying payment for this them self and a agreement with them and lawyers. Just don't attempt to think that all women shouldn't have a choice, whether you think that way or not, it is certainly implied as so. Pro-Life, Pro-Choice should be upon the individual. Its no ones business as to what a WOMAN does with her body but her and who is involved.  (SOME) Christians need to understand that not all people think and feel the way they do, so they should leave they religious thoughts and feelings to the ones who think and feel the way they do, and not push their believes upon others.

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« Reply #54 on: November 02, 2012, 02:24:20 pm »
(SOME) Christians need to understand that not all people think and feel the way they do, so they should leave they religious thoughts and feelings to the ones who think and feel the way they do, and not push their believes upon others.

That's some good advice which few xtians are able to take to heart and apply to themselves, unfortunately.
One can lead a horse to water however, if one holds the horse's head under, that horse will drown.

             

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« Reply #55 on: November 02, 2012, 03:00:59 pm »
Because he said that he needs a job.  He is currently an out of work millionaire.

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« Reply #56 on: November 02, 2012, 05:10:26 pm »
(Jcribb) There is a lot of babies already here on earth that they can adopt without adding more. Also the thought of what your saying is your opinion righteously so. Do not attempt to speak for all women, who which are the ones to give birth and carry such child.Nothing holding any Gay or straight couple from having a surrogate or adopting, as they would be supplying payment for this them self and a agreement with them and lawyers. Just don't attempt to think that all women shouldn't have a choice, whether you think that way or not, it is certainly implied as so. Pro-Life, Pro-Choice should be upon the individual. Its no ones business as to what a WOMAN does with her body but her and who is involved.  (SOME) Christians need to understand that not all people think and feel the way they do, so they should leave they religious thoughts and feelings to the ones who think and feel the way they do, and not push their believes upon others.
As a mother who carried 3 children, I am speaking now from a mother who loves her children and sees them as individuals who had their right to live their life after we knew we were pregnant.  I am also speaking as a voice for the child in the womb - sure a woman has control of her body and her choices, however, aborting a child is murder, and there's no getting around it.  The poor baby in the womb has no say so to live when a mom will abort, and so someone has to speak up for them.

There are Christians and non-christians, both, who are either pro-life or pro-choice - those choices are not limited to one group only.  I have the Constitutional right and freedom to speak my opinion and share what I feel about this issue, whether Christian or not, so please don't tell me what I can say or what I can keep to only people "like me."  You are wrong - you share your views and I will share mine.  Thank you.

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« Reply #57 on: November 02, 2012, 05:13:23 pm »
I have the Constitutional right and freedom to speak my opinion and share what I feel about this issue, whether Christian or not, so please don't tell me what I can say or what I can keep to only people "like me."  

Can it be assumed that you'll be following your own 'advice' and not continue attempting to restrict/suppress/censor non-xtian viewpoints from this point on or, is your stance hypocritical?
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« Reply #58 on: November 02, 2012, 05:14:10 pm »
(SOME) Christians need to understand that not all people think and feel the way they do, so they should leave they religious thoughts and feelings to the ones who think and feel the way they do, and not push their believes upon others.

That's some good advice which few xtians are able to take to heart and apply to themselves, unfortunately.
Take your own advice, why don't you!?!?!  I am protected by the Constitution with sharing my thoughts and views, and do NOT have to keep them to myself or to only people who "think like me."  Just as you are sharing your thoughts and views, pushing them on others, in which you need to take to heart and apply to your own self.  Fortunately, I have the right and the ability to speak and share, like you, so knock off the ridiculousness.

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« Reply #59 on: November 02, 2012, 05:15:46 pm »
I have the Constitutional right and freedom to speak my opinion and share what I feel about this issue, whether Christian or not, so please don't tell me what I can say or what I can keep to only people "like me."  

Can it be assumedd that you'll be following your own 'advice' and not continue attempting to restrict/suppress/censor non-xtian viewpoints from this point on or, is your stance hypocritical?
Are you going to continue to hatefully crawl and troll Christians?

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