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Re: Please pray for my mom!
« Reply #15 on: October 23, 2012, 05:49:58 am »
Continue to be there for her. GOD will not put more on you than you can bare. I pray for your strength to help your mom through this and i pray for your mom's healing. GOD ALMIGHTY is healer. Keep the faith and don't give up! :angel11:
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« Reply #16 on: October 23, 2012, 08:00:35 am »
Don't mean to be the bitter one~but it is weird that when someone asks to pray for their mother, everyone responds nicely and prays for her. Once I started a thread for people to pray for the city of Joplin (in which I live) that was destructed from an EF5 tornado. 161 people died, some were people I knew and friends......everyone told me that praying would not help.....why?
My mom has MS (Multiple Sclerosis)...does anyone pray for her? Do I dare ask? People say they will pray. but do they really? I have a hard time believing that!!  :angry7:
No, I am not a bitter person, just expressing my feelings and opinions when I think something isn't fair to me. 


There's nothing inherently "bitter" about the observation that "praying", (a 'magical intercessory ritual'), has no evidence of "helping" anything other than encouraging a false sense of 'comfort'.  Some people feel they need such self-delusions while otehrs do not.

Thank you falcon9. I agree with you on that one and you made me feel better.  ;)

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Re: Please pray for my mom!
« Reply #17 on: October 23, 2012, 11:48:28 am »
I hope ur mom will get better soon and I know she can fight these diseases. :angel11:

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Re: Please pray for my mom!
« Reply #18 on: October 23, 2012, 12:05:01 pm »
I have prayed for your mother and hope she is doing better today.  I prayed for comfort for you, too, as you await to hear some answers about this situation.  {{Hugs}}

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Re: Please pray for my mom!
« Reply #19 on: October 23, 2012, 12:16:10 pm »
Don't mean to be the bitter one~but it is weird that when someone asks to pray for their mother, everyone responds nicely and prays for her. Once I started a thread for people to pray for the city of Joplin (in which I live) that was destructed from an EF5 tornado. 161 people died, some were people I knew and friends......everyone told me that praying would not help.....why?
My mom has MS (Multiple Sclerosis)...does anyone pray for her? Do I dare ask? People say they will pray. but do they really? I have a hard time believing that!!  :angry7:
No, I am not a bitter person, just expressing my feelings and opinions when I think something isn't fair to me. 

You aren't the bitter one - you are definitely expressing your feelings and opinions.  I remember when that happened in Joplin and how extremely worried and devastated you were.  In one thread (not the same thread as you are speaking of) I and many others in there were very concerned for you, your family, and your friends.  We (though a few) did pray for you and for them, for help, for missing people to be found, for comfort to make it through the upset, and more.  For those who said what they did in the other thread about praying would not help, while expressing either their opinion or based on their experience with something, left a bad taste in your mouth.  I'm really sorry you had to deal with that. 

Yes, I will pray for your mom.  MS can be cruel to a person's body and outlook on life, and they need comfort, understanding, and acceptance.  I will pray for you, as well, because you also need comfort, support, and encouragement, through your love and concern towards her.  Please keep me posted about her.

I hope you and your family are doing well - your little one has grown a lot, I'm sure!  It's wonderful to see you, even if under different circumstances.  {{{Hugs}}} to you!   :heart:

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Re: Please pray for my mom!
« Reply #20 on: October 23, 2012, 12:35:11 pm »
Don't mean to be the bitter one~but it is weird that when someone asks to pray for their mother, everyone responds nicely and prays for her. Once I started a thread for people to pray for the city of Joplin (in which I live) that was destructed from an EF5 tornado. 161 people died, some were people I knew and friends......everyone told me that praying would not help.....why?
My mom has MS (Multiple Sclerosis)...does anyone pray for her? Do I dare ask? People say they will pray. but do they really? I have a hard time believing that!!  :angry7:
No, I am not a bitter person, just expressing my feelings and opinions when I think something isn't fair to me.  


Sorry that you felt alienated on your situation.  My prayers go out to those who are suffering.  Only God knows how you are truly feeling inside and out, He will give you peace beyond understanding.

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Re: Please pray for my mom!
« Reply #21 on: October 23, 2012, 02:53:53 pm »
Don't mean to be the bitter one~but it is weird that when someone asks to pray for their mother, everyone responds nicely and prays for her. Once I started a thread for people to pray for the city of Joplin (in which I live) that was destructed from an EF5 tornado. 161 people died, some were people I knew and friends......everyone told me that praying would not help.....why?
My mom has MS (Multiple Sclerosis)...does anyone pray for her? Do I dare ask? People say they will pray. but do they really? I have a hard time believing that!!  :angry7:
No, I am not a bitter person, just expressing my feelings and opinions when I think something isn't fair to me. 


There's nothing inherently "bitter" about the observation that "praying", (a 'magical intercessory ritual'), has no evidence of "helping" anything other than encouraging a false sense of 'comfort'.  Some people feel they need such self-delusions while otehrs do not.

Thank you falcon9. I agree with you on that one and you made me feel better.  ;)

You're welcome and I'm glad it was of some comfort.  Remember too that just because such 'magical intercessory rituals' such as "prayer" have no discernable effect beyond such comfort-placebo ones, that doesn't mean other, more pragmatic avenues cannot be pursued.  They can be, once less/no time is wasted on superstitious beliefs.
One can lead a horse to water however, if one holds the horse's head under, that horse will drown.

             

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Re: Please pray for my mom!
« Reply #22 on: October 23, 2012, 02:55:52 pm »
I do believe in miracles...God bless your Mom and your family :heart:

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Re: Please pray for my mom!
« Reply #23 on: October 23, 2012, 05:54:11 pm »
Workmama..im a bit confused here.

First off i am sorry for the trouble in your life.For any of us its hard to escape hardships in this world.

What i dont understand is you complain of those NOT praying for you and then you agree with Falcon9 who has no use for a loving creator.So if you agree with Falcon why do you even worry about if any are praying for you?You have seen him on this forum with his feelings towards God etc...do you think a Creator would answer any of your prayers if your heart was like his?

Anyway maybe your heart is just confused and you needed some guidance.I couldnt help point it out to you.

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Re: Please pray for my mom!
« Reply #24 on: October 23, 2012, 06:16:56 pm »
:wave: Hello,  :angel11:

     A miracle... you decide  ;)  February 2, 2009 when my husband woke-up I had a temperature of 103 and I was so out of it he had to completely dress me and get me in the wheelchair so we could get to the emergency-room. In fact, my husband said he wheeled me into the emergency-room and a nurse was coming around the corner and she took one look at me at rushed me in while my husband had to fill-out all the paperwork. Furthermore, I had a fever of 107 degrees and I was unresponsive. The doctor said I had  and had double phenomena.        :sad1:

     When my husband came in the next day I had tubes all over and several different IV bags, and after a few days one of the doctors told my husband he should get start looking into funeral arrangements. My husband almost decked him but two of the nurses calmed him down. In addition, my husband had another scare on Feb. 11, 2009 when I was no longer in ICCU because I woke-up and I was in a regular room. Then, February 14, 2009 at 10:00 pm., in a snow storm my husband took me home. And although I survived I was still struggling with an 11 year illness and I had lost so much weight, I was truly very weak.  :'(

     However, one month later on March 14, 2009 my grandmother passed away peacefully in her bed while she was sleeping. And May 5, 2009 I started college online and I am two classes away from my AAEE degree, I got out of the whellchair March 14, 2009 and even though I still have a few mountains to climb my healthy has been improving throughout.  :angel12:

     Sincerely, RosieQ     :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart:   
   
Carol M.  s:o)xoox

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Re: Please pray for my mom!
« Reply #25 on: October 23, 2012, 06:20:03 pm »
Our prayers are with you and your mom.  I hope for the best for both of you for speedy recovery.

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Re: Please pray for my mom!
« Reply #26 on: October 23, 2012, 07:18:36 pm »
Prayers for your mom  :angel11:
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Re: Please pray for my mom!
« Reply #27 on: October 23, 2012, 08:12:47 pm »
Workmama..im a bit confused here.

"A bit"?  Now that's an understatement.

What i dont understand is you complain of those NOT praying for you and then you agree with Falcon9 who has no use for a loving creator.So if you agree with Falcon why do you even worry about if any are praying for you?You have seen him on this forum with his feelings towards God etc...do you think a Creator would answer any of your prayers if your heart was like his?

What a load of santimonious fundie crap you're trying to force-feed someone who told posted how she felt about such "prayers".  Then you 'pick on' her for agreeing with me and 'diss' her personal choice.  That's cult behaviour on your part and you'ce demonstrated that cult-deprogramming is not likely to be of benefit to your self-inflicted blindness.

Anyway maybe your heart is just confused and you needed some guidance.I couldnt help point it out to you.

Allow someone to point out to you that you aren't in any position, (faith-blinded, self-deceived confusion), to "guide" anyone ... a blind faither leading one who can *see* for herself wouldn't make any sense.
One can lead a horse to water however, if one holds the horse's head under, that horse will drown.

             

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Re: Please pray for my mom!
« Reply #28 on: October 23, 2012, 08:20:49 pm »
:wave: Hello,  :angel11:

     A miracle... you decide  ;)  February 2, 2009 when my husband woke-up I had a temperature of 103 and I was so out of it he had to completely dress me and get me in the wheelchair so we could get to the emergency-room. In fact, my husband said he wheeled me into the emergency-room and a nurse was coming around the corner and she took one look at me at rushed me in while my husband had to fill-out all the paperwork. Furthermore, I had a fever of 107 degrees and I was unresponsive. The doctor said I had  and had double phenomena.        :sad1:

     When my husband came in the next day I had tubes all over and several different IV bags, and after a few days one of the doctors told my husband he should get start looking into funeral arrangements. My husband almost decked him but two of the nurses calmed him down. In addition, my husband had another scare on Feb. 11, 2009 when I was no longer in ICCU because I woke-up and I was in a regular room. Then, February 14, 2009 at 10:00 pm., in a snow storm my husband took me home. And although I survived I was still struggling with an 11 year illness and I had lost so much weight, I was truly very weak.  :'(

     However, one month later on March 14, 2009 my grandmother passed away peacefully in her bed while she was sleeping. And May 5, 2009 I started college online and I am two classes away from my AAEE degree, I got out of the whellchair March 14, 2009 and even though I still have a few mountains to climb my healthy has been improving throughout.  :angel12:

     Sincerely, RosieQ     :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart:   
   
Thank you for sharing your story!  That is amazing news and I'm proud of you for how far you have come since then, including college and getting out of that wheelchair!  That's a testimony of the Lord!   :heart:

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Re: Please pray for my mom!
« Reply #29 on: October 23, 2012, 08:29:57 pm »
:wave: Hello,  :angel11:

     A miracle... you decide  ;)  February 2, 2009 when my husband woke-up I had a temperature of 103 and I was so out of it he had to completely dress me and get me in the wheelchair so we could get to the emergency-room. In fact, my husband said he wheeled me into the emergency-room and a nurse was coming around the corner and she took one look at me at rushed me in while my husband had to fill-out all the paperwork. Furthermore, I had a fever of 107 degrees and I was unresponsive. The doctor said I had  and had double phenomena.        :sad1:

     When my husband came in the next day I had tubes all over and several different IV bags, and after a few days one of the doctors told my husband he should get start looking into funeral arrangements. My husband almost decked him but two of the nurses calmed him down. In addition, my husband had another scare on Feb. 11, 2009 when I was no longer in ICCU because I woke-up and I was in a regular room. Then, February 14, 2009 at 10:00 pm., in a snow storm my husband took me home. And although I survived I was still struggling with an 11 year illness and I had lost so much weight, I was truly very weak.  :'(

     However, one month later on March 14, 2009 my grandmother passed away peacefully in her bed while she was sleeping. And May 5, 2009 I started college online and I am two classes away from my AAEE degree, I got out of the whellchair March 14, 2009 and even though I still have a few mountains to climb my healthy has been improving throughout.  :angel12:

     Sincerely, RosieQ     :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart:   
   

Thank you for sharing your story!  That is amazing news and I'm proud of you for how far you have come since then, including college and getting out of that wheelchair!  That's a testimony of the Lord!   :heart:

Attributing medical attention to being "a testimony of the lord" is an unsupported and therefore, false attribution.  Apparently, that's all those blinded by religious belief have; unsupported faith-based attributions sans direct evidence.
One can lead a horse to water however, if one holds the horse's head under, that horse will drown.

             

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