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[falcon9]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, we already know what you're saying - we hear it all the time.  I didn't say I disagreed with it, anyway. 

You've already tacitly agreed with the 'idea' of censoring/prohibited/restricting viewpoints which oppose those of xtians specifically so, your admission comes as no surprise.

You don't have an issue with Wiccans discussing - especially since you even took the opportunity to make your own thread. 

One rarely, (if ever), observes wiccans trying to actively recruit others to their 'religion' however, that thread did reveal some xtians who posted in it are intolerant of non-xtian belief systems, (as the content of their posted replies unambiguously shows).  That thread was not begun to 'troll' hypocritical xtians though; it was begun to demonstrate that there are other belief systems than xtianity which do not share that particular set of superstitions.
 

You have mentioned posting other "legit" religions, including Satanism.  Why do you seem to tolerate those others and don't mess with them, and even encourage conversation, yet you bash believers for even attempting a verse or quote thread. 

The implicit assumption by many xtians, (especially the more fundamentalist cults/sects), that xtianity is the 'only "true" religion' was being countered with examples of other federally-recognised religions, including wicca and satanism.  I've never explicitly indicated that I was either but, have explicitly stated that I don't adhere to any specious religious superstitious belief.

It's very obvious the hatred you have ...

That's a subjective assumption on your part which attempts to project an emotion onto someone who has asserted no particular "hatred" for either xtians or xtianity.  I do have considerable contempt for any religion which has plagiarized other belief systems over centuries of time, tortured and killed non-believers over those same centuries and instigated such reprehensible pograms as the crusades, inquisitions and witch hunts.  These atrocities are not 'endearing' qualities worthy of my respect for the exact same religious beliefs which allegedly 'justified' them and which are the same exact superstitious beliefs followers of those religions have today.

... and I have never known any military person to be as intolerant as you are, when it comes to people who choose God. 

You weren't actually in the military then and, if your contention concerning never having been a xtian were valid, (they're not), you'd know that people are more intolerant than tolerant - wherever one goes.

[jcribb16]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, we already know what you're saying - we hear it all the time.  I didn't say I disagreed with it, anyway. 

You've already tacitly agreed with the 'idea' of censoring/prohibited/restricting viewpoints which oppose those of xtians specifically so, your admission comes as no surprise.

You don't have an issue with Wiccans discussing - especially since you even took the opportunity to make your own thread. 

One rarely, (if ever), observes wiccans trying to actively recruit others to their 'religion' however, that thread did reveal some xtians who posted in it are intolerant of non-xtian belief systems, (as the content of their posted replies unambiguously shows).  That thread was not begun to 'troll' hypocritical xtians though; it was begun to demonstrate that there are other belief systems than xtianity which do not share that particular set of superstitions.
 

You have mentioned posting other "legit" religions, including Satanism.  Why do you seem to tolerate those others and don't mess with them, and even encourage conversation, yet you bash believers for even attempting a verse or quote thread. 

The implicit assumption by many xtians, (especially the more fundamentalist cults/sects), that xtianity is the 'only "true" religion' was being countered with examples of other federally-recognised religions, including wicca and satanism.  I've never explicitly indicated that I was either but, have explicitly stated that I don't adhere to any specious religious superstitious belief.

It's very obvious the hatred you have ...

That's a subjective assumption on your part which attempts to project an emotion onto someone who has asserted no particular "hatred" for either xtians or xtianity.  I do have considerable contempt for any religion which has plagiarized other belief systems over centuries of time, tortured and killed non-believers over those same centuries and instigated such reprehensible pograms as the crusades, inquisitions and witch hunts.  These atrocities are not 'endearing' qualities worthy of my respect for the exact same religious beliefs which allegedly 'justified' them and which are the same exact superstitious beliefs followers of those religions have today.

... and I have never known any military person to be as intolerant as you are, when it comes to people who choose God. 

You weren't actually in the military then and, if your contention concerning never having been a xtian were valid, (they're not), you'd know that people are more intolerant than tolerant - wherever one goes.

I have not personally been in the military, but coming from a military family, marrying a military man, and having a military child, these things have given me many an opportunity to see, talk with, hear from, and be told about, with regards to most military members being tolerant, respectful, and courteous of those who either believe in God, or in someone/thing else, or dis-believe any and all things.  There are other things that have helped shape an evaluation of this, such as Chaplains in the military, statistics made, amongst others, including even our elections and how the military, as a whole, votes for a candidate, reacts to a candidate, etc.  You choose to not see it because of how steeped you are in your intolerance.

[falcon9]

I have not personally been in the military, but coming from a military family, marrying a military man, and having a military child, these things have given me many an opportunity to see, talk with, hear from, and be told about, with regards to most military members being tolerant, respectful, and courteous of those who either believe in God, or in someone/thing else, or dis-believe any and all things.  

Though I come from generally the same military background, I was active duty.  Having talked to other active duty personnel, there are some attitudes which had to outwardly comply with military regulations, (while sometimes contradicting actual perceptions held).  That said, a greater percentage of the population is 'judeo-xtian' than not so, that statistic carries over into military personnel as well.  This does not mean that military xtians were any more or less "tolerant" of non-xtians than civilian xtians, (and they often were not).

[dymmerswitch]

I have not personally been in the military, but coming from a military family, marrying a military man, and having a military child, these things have given me many an opportunity to see, talk with, hear from, and be told about, with regards to most military members being tolerant, respectful, and courteous of those who either believe in God, or in someone/thing else, or dis-believe any and all things.  

Though I come from generally the same military background, I was active duty.  Having talked to other active duty personnel, there are some attitudes which had to outwardly comply with military regulations, (while sometimes contradicting actual perceptions held).  That said, a greater percentage of the population is 'judeo-xtian' than not so, that statistic carries over into military personnel as well.  This does not mean that military xtians were any more or less "tolerant" of non-xtians than civilian xtians, (and they often were not).

I want to say first that i support all military men and women,When i think i have it hard ,i think of you guys.Everytime i hear a fighter plane go over my house ,I say to myself "You think you got it bad,imagine being in that plane ,in time of mass ,terrorism and war".War scares me to death,and with out brave people like you guys ,we wouldn't be able to feel safe at all. :peace:so i'm  here to say thank you ,for being there then and now.You guys are great .thanks for your post.Good night and may god be with us ALL.

[falcon9]

I want to say first that i support all military men and women,When i think i have it hard ,i think of you guys.Everytime i hear a fighter plane go over my house ,I say to myself "You think you got it bad,imagine being in that plane ,in time of mass ,terrorism and war".War scares me to death,and with out brave people like you guys ,we wouldn't be able to feel safe at all. :peace:so i'm  here to say thank you ,for being there then and now.You guys are great .thanks for your post.

Thanks for your appreciation of the sacrifices of all who served.

Good night and may god be with us ALL.

Others have chosen to opt-out of such a religious sentiment, which is somewhat less than "all."

[southernhorizons]

You don't have an issue with Wiccans discussing - especially since you even took the opportunity to make your own thread.

One rarely, (if ever), observes wiccans trying to actively recruit others to their 'religion' however, that thread did reveal some xtians who posted in it are intolerant of non-xtian belief systems, (as the content of their posted replies unambiguously shows).  That thread was not begun to 'troll' hypocritical xtians though; it was begun to demonstrate that there are other belief systems than xtianity which do not share that particular set of superstitions.

So it is not proselytizing for a Wiccan to post his/ her beliefs in a thread, but it is proselytizing for a Christian to do so! Now you're making up your own definition for proselytizing.
Oh, by the way, one of the definitions of proselytizing that I posted earlier is:
2 : to recruit someone to join one's party, institution, or cause
So it can be used for people promoting other "causes" besides religion, including your dis-belief.

[jcribb16]

You don't have an issue with Wiccans discussing - especially since you even took the opportunity to make your own thread.

One rarely, (if ever), observes wiccans trying to actively recruit others to their 'religion' however, that thread did reveal some xtians who posted in it are intolerant of non-xtian belief systems, (as the content of their posted replies unambiguously shows).  That thread was not begun to 'troll' hypocritical xtians though; it was begun to demonstrate that there are other belief systems than xtianity which do not share that particular set of superstitions.

So it is not proselytizing for a Wiccan to post his/ her beliefs in a thread, but it is proselytizing for a Christian to do so! Now you're making up your own definition for proselytizing.
Oh, by the way, one of the definitions of proselytizing that I posted earlier is:
2 : to recruit someone to join one's party, institution, or cause
So it can be used for people promoting other "causes" besides religion, including your dis-belief.

I agree with you.  By him posting a Wiccan thread, he is in essence, alluding to recruiting someone to join that particular belief system.  Otherwise, a Wiccan would share a thread with other Wiccans for discussions, and for those who may be interested in checking it out. 

[falcon9]

You don't have an issue with Wiccans discussing - especially since you even took the opportunity to make your own thread.

One rarely, (if ever), observes wiccans trying to actively recruit others to their 'religion' however, that thread did reveal some xtians who posted in it are intolerant of non-xtian belief systems, (as the content of their posted replies unambiguously shows).  That thread was not begun to 'troll' hypocritical xtians though; it was begun to demonstrate that there are other belief systems than xtianity which do not share that particular set of superstitions.

So it is not proselytizing for a Wiccan to post his/ her beliefs in a thread, but it is proselytizing for a Christian to do so! Now you're making up your own definition for proselytizing.
Oh, by the way, one of the definitions of proselytizing that I posted earlier is:
2 : to recruit someone to join one's party, institution, or cause
So it can be used for people promoting other "causes" besides religion, including your dis-belief.

I agree with you.  By him posting a Wiccan thread, he is in essence, alluding to recruiting someone to join that particular belief system.  Otherwise, a Wiccan would share a thread with other Wiccans for discussions, and for those who may be interested in checking it out. 

Such a conclusion lacks substantiation due to the fact that I'm not a wiccan and therefore, aren't recruiting or proselytizing for wiccans.  Conversely, you two are xtian fundies and are promoting/propagandizing/proselytizing that belief system.

[jcribb16]

You don't have an issue with Wiccans discussing - especially since you even took the opportunity to make your own thread.

One rarely, (if ever), observes wiccans trying to actively recruit others to their 'religion' however, that thread did reveal some xtians who posted in it are intolerant of non-xtian belief systems, (as the content of their posted replies unambiguously shows).  That thread was not begun to 'troll' hypocritical xtians though; it was begun to demonstrate that there are other belief systems than xtianity which do not share that particular set of superstitions.

So it is not proselytizing for a Wiccan to post his/ her beliefs in a thread, but it is proselytizing for a Christian to do so! Now you're making up your own definition for proselytizing.
Oh, by the way, one of the definitions of proselytizing that I posted earlier is:
2 : to recruit someone to join one's party, institution, or cause
So it can be used for people promoting other "causes" besides religion, including your dis-belief.

I agree with you.  By him posting a Wiccan thread, he is in essence, alluding to recruiting someone to join that particular belief system.  Otherwise, a Wiccan would share a thread with other Wiccans for discussions, and for those who may be interested in checking it out. 

Such a conclusion lacks substantiation due to the fact that I'm not a wiccan and therefore, aren't recruiting or proselytizing for wiccans.  Conversely, you two are xtian fundies and are promoting/propagandizing/proselytizing that belief system.

False.  You may not be Wiccan, but you are posting a thread, providing information about it, and encouraging others to come into that thread, including providing updated information.  You are indeed helping to promote Wiccan by what you are doing, whether you admit it or not. 

And again, I am a CHRISTIAN FUNDAMENTALIST - stop, please, with the sarcastic shortcuts you are doing just to be ugly. A Bible verse thread is NOT demanding anyone to come in there, period.  It's posted, just like the Wiccan thread you posted, for those who would or might take an interest and either join in, just read, or ask questions.  NO ONE is being forced to open threads in this forum, no matter what the topics are. 

But, since you continue to lie and still accuse about that, then you need to see the point that if you are accusing Christians of doing that, that you are also indeed doing the same thing - even about something you aren't even a part of.  You are doing it, too, to get back at the Christian posts.  So what?  All members can post topics, join in, oppose with COMMON COURTESY, not join in, without the loathing you promote against Christians.

[falcon9]

You may not be Wiccan, but you are posting a thread, providing information about it ...

Yes, that's true.

... and encouraging others to come into that thread ...

What "encouraging" do you imagine is occurring?

You are indeed helping to promote Wiccan by what you are doing, whether you admit it or not. 

No, such informational threads promote awareness and counter specious xtian disinformation about non-xtian religions.
 

And again, I am a CHRISTIAN FUNDAMENTALIST - stop, please, with the sarcastic shortcuts you are doing just to be ugly.

The abbreviations "fundie xtian" contain no inherent 'ugliness' and simply denote what they're abbreviating.  Unless you're implying that being a fundie xtian is inherently "ugly" of course.  If so, that would be refreshingly-honest of you for once.

[jcribb16]

You may not be Wiccan, but you are posting a thread, providing information about it ...

Yes, that's true.

... and encouraging others to come into that thread ...

What "encouraging" do you imagine is occurring?

You are indeed helping to promote Wiccan by what you are doing, whether you admit it or not. 

No, such informational threads promote awareness and counter specious xtian disinformation about non-xtian religions.
 

And again, I am a CHRISTIAN FUNDAMENTALIST - stop, please, with the sarcastic shortcuts you are doing just to be ugly.

The abbreviations "fundie xtian" contain no inherent 'ugliness' and simply denote what they're abbreviating.  Unless you're implying that being a fundie xtian is inherently "ugly" of course.  If so, that would be refreshingly-honest of you for once.

You use them sarcastically.  It seems as if you are actually afraid of typing the word "Christ" in front of "-tian..."

Nope, you are promoting Wiccan, even though you aren't involved in it.  And deliberately...

[falcon9]

And again, I am a CHRISTIAN FUNDAMENTALIST - stop, please, with the sarcastic shortcuts you are doing just to be ugly.

The abbreviations "fundie xtian" contain no inherent 'ugliness' and simply denote what they're abbreviating.  Unless you're implying that being a fundie xtian is inherently "ugly" of course.  If so, that would be refreshingly-honest of you for once.

You use them sarcastically.  It seems as if you are actually afraid of typing the word "Christ" in front of "-tian..."

On the contrary, it's entirely possible to use the unabbreviated terms sarcastically or, not sarcastically.  Your inherently-biased impressions of their usage has no objective basis - especially the specious one regarding being "afraid" of words, (unless that applies to a xtian fundie who is "afraid" of such words as "logical reasoning" and "valid evidence" because they're anathema to blind faith).

[jcribb16]

And again, I am a CHRISTIAN FUNDAMENTALIST - stop, please, with the sarcastic shortcuts you are doing just to be ugly.

The abbreviations "fundie xtian" contain no inherent 'ugliness' and simply denote what they're abbreviating.  Unless you're implying that being a fundie xtian is inherently "ugly" of course.  If so, that would be refreshingly-honest of you for once.

You use them sarcastically.  It seems as if you are actually afraid of typing the word "Christ" in front of "-tian..."

On the contrary, it's entirely possible to use the unabbreviated terms sarcastically or, not sarcastically.  Your inherently-biased impressions of their usage has no objective basis - especially the specious one regarding being "afraid" of words, (unless that applies to a xtian fundie who is "afraid" of such words as "logical reasoning" and "valid evidence" because they're anathema to blind faith).

Write "Christian" then, when you use that word again.

[falcon9]

Write "Christian" then, when you use that word again.

Issue more 'commands' which are ignored, fundie xtian.

[jcribb16]

Write "Christian" then, when you use that word again.

Issue more 'commands' which are ignored, fundie xtian.

Stop with the name-calling.