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« Reply #180 on: October 24, 2012, 09:06:38 pm »
Then you should understand that Christians are not the same as those killers as from the past.   Same with Christians ...  

The same religious beliefs were held by the xtians who commited the atrocities of the Inquisitions, Crusades and witch hunts as the followers of that same religion hold today.  The same applies to islam; the ones who commited atrocities in the name of their religion hold the same general superstitious religious beliefs as other followers of islam.  Separating the 'extremists' of any superstitious religious belief into different piles so that one pile can try disassociating itself from the other piles is a pointless religious fiction.  To any non-adherent, if the same religious belief is held by extremists of that religious belief as by non-extremists, it's still the same underlying religious belief that's being opposed.

I will not accept this comment of yours as rational ...

Your acceptance or denial of logical reasoning is irrevelant to logical reasoning.  The reasoning is sound; your non-acceptance of sound logical reasoning is irrational.

Until you read and comment with your answer to my question regarding the Muslims' Islam, this answer is null and void and deliberately posted because you refuse to listen.

Guess what, 'sunshine'?  You've refused/dodged/avoided answering direct challneges of mine to your faith-based beliefs so often that you'd 'owe' me at least one.  To that end; I get to choose what to respond to, you do get to dictate that response.  The same applies to yours.  

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Re: Cowards
« Reply #181 on: October 25, 2012, 05:02:11 am »
Falcon9 what kind of trouble are you stirring up now ?????????????

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Re: Cowards
« Reply #182 on: October 25, 2012, 08:32:31 am »
Falcon9 what kind of trouble are you stirring up now ?????????????

None, since I didn't start this calling-out thread; a xtian did, (shocker!).
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« Reply #183 on: October 25, 2012, 03:46:52 pm »
Then you should understand that Christians are not the same as those killers as from the past.   Same with Christians ...  

The same religious beliefs were held by the xtians who commited the atrocities of the Inquisitions, Crusades and witch hunts as the followers of that same religion hold today.  The same applies to islam; the ones who commited atrocities in the name of their religion hold the same general superstitious religious beliefs as other followers of islam.  Separating the 'extremists' of any superstitious religious belief into different piles so that one pile can try disassociating itself from the other piles is a pointless religious fiction.  To any non-adherent, if the same religious belief is held by extremists of that religious belief as by non-extremists, it's still the same underlying religious belief that's being opposed.

I will not accept this comment of yours as rational ...

Your acceptance or denial of logical reasoning is irrevelant to logical reasoning.  The reasoning is sound; your non-acceptance of sound logical reasoning is irrational.

Until you read and comment with your answer to my question regarding the Muslims' Islam, this answer is null and void and deliberately posted because you refuse to listen.

Guess what, 'sunshine'?  You've refused/dodged/avoided answering direct challneges of mine to your faith-based beliefs so often that you'd 'owe' me at least one.  To that end; I get to choose what to respond to, you do get to dictate that response.  The same applies to yours.  
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It's pretty obvious you are avoiding that particular question for a reason.  Does it hit too close to home?  Is it false and it's ONLY Christians you have this loathing problem with?  Are you associated with something?  By not answering this question, you have basically answered it (by your silence on the matter.)  If you hold the same hate towards those Islamist, who are trying to live right and peacefully, as you do Christians, then you are pretty fair in your hatred.  If you don't hold the peace loving Islamist accountable as the radical Islamist, then Houston, we have a problem, with your proven bias and prejudice toward ONLY Christians.

Here it is again, for we would be very interested in your outlook on this, since it compares with how you hold today's Christians accountable for past actions; and the radical Islamist are continuing from the past through today with their hateful treatment, while other Islamist are trying to find peace from that hatefulness, not to mention trying to distance themselves from the same.  I cannot believe that you would refuse to answer a question like this, unless you will be giving something away that you don't want to openly admit....


Many Muslims get very upset when their Islam is compared to be the same as the radical extremists Islamists.  They do not believe in what the radicals do, do not approve of it, and do not wish to be known as the same as them, even though it is "Islam." Do you hold all Muslims accountable for the acts of the radical Islamists, who stone, kill, hang, stab, and more, those who do not do as they think they should do?  They say "Allah" tells them to do it so they are using "Allah" to fulfill their personal prejudices and desires for violence. Is it fair to hold the other Islamists accountable for the actions of the "bad" guys, just because they serve "Allah?"  To them, "Allah" is not a god of hatred and killings.

Same with Christians - those were some bad people back then, using "God's" name to fulfill their wicked prejudices and personal bias against others.  They were wrong.  But it is wrong and unfair to hold us Christians accountable for their horrible actions.

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Re: Cowards
« Reply #184 on: October 25, 2012, 04:06:24 pm »
Then you should understand that Christians are not the same as those killers as from the past.   Same with Christians ...  

The same religious beliefs were held by the xtians who commited the atrocities of the Inquisitions, Crusades and witch hunts as the followers of that same religion hold today.  The same applies to islam; the ones who commited atrocities in the name of their religion hold the same general superstitious religious beliefs as other followers of islam.  Separating the 'extremists' of any superstitious religious belief into different piles so that one pile can try disassociating itself from the other piles is a pointless religious fiction.  To any non-adherent, if the same religious belief is held by extremists of that religious belief as by non-extremists, it's still the same underlying religious belief that's being opposed.

I will not accept this comment of yours as rational ...

Your acceptance or denial of logical reasoning is irrevelant to logical reasoning.  The reasoning is sound; your non-acceptance of sound logical reasoning is irrational.

Until you read and comment with your answer to my question regarding the Muslims' Islam, this answer is null and void and deliberately posted because you refuse to listen.

It's pretty obvious you are avoiding that particular question for a reason. 

I've replied above. You've refused/dodged/avoided answering direct challneges of mine to your faith-based beliefs so often that you'd 'owe' me at least one.  To that end; I get to choose what to respond to, you don't get to dictate that response.  The same applies to your previous dodges.
 
 
By not answering this question, you have basically answered it (by your silence on the matter.)  

The question was answered.  Any inability to comprehend that answer, (for instance, by misinterpreting it), is your own deception.  Applying the same illogical non-reasoning as you're trying to do; your prior dodges/avoidance/smoke-screen non-answers "have basically answered it (by your silence on the matter )".  That sort of irrationality doesn't work since it doesn't run both ways.
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Re: Cowards
« Reply #185 on: October 25, 2012, 06:50:03 pm »
Ha I know the motive behind this post rea talk.

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Re: Cowards
« Reply #186 on: October 25, 2012, 09:27:00 pm »
Then you should understand that Christians are not the same as those killers as from the past.   Same with Christians ...  

The same religious beliefs were held by the xtians who commited the atrocities of the Inquisitions, Crusades and witch hunts as the followers of that same religion hold today.  The same applies to islam; the ones who commited atrocities in the name of their religion hold the same general superstitious religious beliefs as other followers of islam.  Separating the 'extremists' of any superstitious religious belief into different piles so that one pile can try disassociating itself from the other piles is a pointless religious fiction.  To any non-adherent, if the same religious belief is held by extremists of that religious belief as by non-extremists, it's still the same underlying religious belief that's being opposed.

I will not accept this comment of yours as rational ...

Your acceptance or denial of logical reasoning is irrevelant to logical reasoning.  The reasoning is sound; your non-acceptance of sound logical reasoning is irrational.

Until you read and comment with your answer to my question regarding the Muslims' Islam, this answer is null and void and deliberately posted because you refuse to listen.

It's pretty obvious you are avoiding that particular question for a reason. 

I've replied above. You've refused/dodged/avoided answering direct challneges of mine to your faith-based beliefs so often that you'd 'owe' me at least one.  To that end; I get to choose what to respond to, you don't get to dictate that response.  The same applies to your previous dodges.
 
 
By not answering this question, you have basically answered it (by your silence on the matter.)  

The question was answered.  Any inability to comprehend that answer, (for instance, by misinterpreting it), is your own deception.  Applying the same illogical non-reasoning as you're trying to do; your prior dodges/avoidance/smoke-screen non-answers "have basically answered it (by your silence on the matter )".  That sort of irrationality doesn't work since it doesn't run both ways.

No you have not answered a yes or no to my question.  You are showing your true colors and "cowardliness" by not answering it.  Here it is again for you:

Many Muslims get very upset when their Islam is compared to be the same as the radical extremists Islamists.  They do not believe in what the radicals do, do not approve of it, and do not wish to be known as the same as them, even though it is "Islam." Do you hold all Muslims accountable for the acts of the radical Islamists, who stone, kill, hang, stab, and more, those who do not do as they think they should do?  They say "Allah" tells them to do it so they are using "Allah" to fulfill their personal prejudices and desires for violence. Is it fair to hold the other Islamists accountable for the actions of the "bad" guys, just because they serve "Allah?"  To them, "Allah" is not a god of hatred and killings.

Same with Christians - those were some bad people back then, using "God's" name to fulfill their wicked prejudices and personal bias against others.  They were wrong.  But it is wrong and unfair to hold us Christians accountable for their horrible actions.

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Re: Cowards
« Reply #187 on: October 25, 2012, 09:37:42 pm »
 
 
Then you should understand that Christians are not the same as those killers as from the past.   Same with Christians ...  

The same religious beliefs were held by the xtians who commited the atrocities of the Inquisitions, Crusades and witch hunts as the followers of that same religion hold today.  The same applies to islam; the ones who commited atrocities in the name of their religion hold the same general superstitious religious beliefs as other followers of islam.  Separating the 'extremists' of any superstitious religious belief into different piles so that one pile can try disassociating itself from the other piles is a pointless religious fiction.  To any non-adherent, if the same religious belief is held by extremists of that religious belief as by non-extremists, it's still the same underlying religious belief that's being opposed.

I will not accept this comment of yours as rational ...

Your acceptance or denial of logical reasoning is irrevelant to logical reasoning.  The reasoning is sound; your non-acceptance of sound logical reasoning is irrational.

Until you read and comment with your answer to my question regarding the Muslims' Islam, this answer is null and void and deliberately posted because you refuse to listen.

It's pretty obvious you are avoiding that particular question for a reason. 

I've replied above. You've refused/dodged/avoided answering direct challneges of mine to your faith-based beliefs so often that you'd 'owe' me at least one.  To that end; I get to choose what to respond to, you don't get to dictate that response.  The same applies to your previous dodges.
 
 
By not answering this question, you have basically answered it (by your silence on the matter.)  

The question was answered.  Any inability to comprehend that answer, (for instance, by misinterpreting it), is a result of your own self-deception.  Applying the same illogical non-reasoning as you're trying to do; your prior dodges/avoidance/smoke-screen non-answers "have basically answered it (by your silence on the matter )".  That sort of irrationality doesn't work since it doesn't run both ways.

No you have not answered a yes or no to my question.

The question was answered.  Any inability to comprehend that answer, (for instance, by misinterpreting it), is a result of your own self-deception.  Applying the same illogical non-reasoning as you're trying to do; your prior dodges/avoidance/smoke-screen non-answers "have basically answered it (by your silence on the matter )".  That sort of irrationality doesn't work since it doesn't run both ways.

You are showing your true colors and "cowardliness" by not answering it.  

Since the question was answered, (in the previous posts in this thread), the only 'cowardice' has been on your part for either being unable to comprehend that answer or, continue to falsely-accuse me of not answering, (which is a direct lie).  Your lies are becoming tedious; repeating them will never make them true.
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« Reply #188 on: October 25, 2012, 09:43:58 pm »
Then you should understand that Christians are not the same as those killers as from the past.   Same with Christians ...  

The same religious beliefs were held by the xtians who commited the atrocities of the Inquisitions, Crusades and witch hunts as the followers of that same religion hold today.  The same applies to islam; the ones who commited atrocities in the name of their religion hold the same general superstitious religious beliefs as other followers of islam.  Separating the 'extremists' of any superstitious religious belief into different piles so that one pile can try disassociating itself from the other piles is a pointless religious fiction.  To any non-adherent, if the same religious belief is held by extremists of that religious belief as by non-extremists, it's still the same underlying religious belief that's being opposed.

I will not accept this comment of yours as rational ...

Your acceptance or denial of logical reasoning is irrevelant to logical reasoning.  The reasoning is sound; your non-acceptance of sound logical reasoning is irrational.

Until you read and comment with your answer to my question regarding the Muslims' Islam, this answer is null and void and deliberately posted because you refuse to listen.

It's pretty obvious you are avoiding that particular question for a reason. 

I've replied above. You've refused/dodged/avoided answering direct challneges of mine to your faith-based beliefs so often that you'd 'owe' me at least one.  To that end; I get to choose what to respond to, you don't get to dictate that response.  The same applies to your previous dodges.
 
 
By not answering this question, you have basically answered it (by your silence on the matter.)  

The question was answered.  Any inability to comprehend that answer, (for instance, by misinterpreting it), is your own deception.  Applying the same illogical non-reasoning as you're trying to do; your prior dodges/avoidance/smoke-screen non-answers "have basically answered it (by your silence on the matter )".  That sort of irrationality doesn't work since it doesn't run both ways.

No you have not answered a yes or no to my question.  You are showing your true colors and "cowardliness" by not answering it.  Here it is again for you:

Many Muslims get very upset when their Islam is compared to be the same as the radical extremists Islamists.  They do not believe in what the radicals do, do not approve of it, and do not wish to be known as the same as them, even though it is "Islam." Do you hold all Muslims accountable for the acts of the radical Islamists, who stone, kill, hang, stab, and more, those who do not do as they think they should do?  They say "Allah" tells them to do it so they are using "Allah" to fulfill their personal prejudices and desires for violence. Is it fair to hold the other Islamists accountable for the actions of the "bad" guys, just because they serve "Allah?"  To them, "Allah" is not a god of hatred and killings.

Same with Christians - those were some bad people back then, using "God's" name to fulfill their wicked prejudices and personal bias against others.  They were wrong.  But it is wrong and unfair to hold us Christians accountable for their horrible actions.

Please answer the bold red questions - this is extremely important to how you view Christians in this forum.  If you will not answer them, then it is very obvious you are sympathetic to something that is indeed a danger to other people.

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« Reply #189 on: October 25, 2012, 09:50:49 pm »
Pretty sad when Falcon can't condem Muslem extremists of the present,while continually condeming Christianity because of "Christian" extremists from centuries ago. :'(

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« Reply #190 on: October 25, 2012, 09:54:44 pm »
Pretty sad when Falcon can't condem Muslem extremists of the present,while continually condeming Christianity because of "Christian" extremists from centuries ago. :'(
You are indeed correct, if that is the case. 

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« Reply #191 on: October 25, 2012, 10:07:17 pm »
Until you read and comment with your answer to my question regarding the Muslims' Islam, this answer is null and void and deliberately posted because you refuse to listen.

The same religious beliefs were held by the xtians who commited the atrocities of the Inquisitions, Crusades and witch hunts as the followers of that same religion hold today.  The same applies to islam; the ones who commited atrocities in the name of their religion hold the same general superstitious religious beliefs as other followers of islam.  Separating the 'extremists' of any superstitious religious belief into different piles so that one pile can try disassociating itself from the other piles is a pointless religious fiction.  To any non-adherent, if the same religious belief is held by extremists of that religious belief as by non-extremists, it's still the same underlying religious belief that's being opposed.
One can lead a horse to water however, if one holds the horse's head under, that horse will drown.

             

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« Reply #192 on: October 25, 2012, 10:24:25 pm »
Until you read and comment with your answer to my question regarding the Muslims' Islam, this answer is null and void and deliberately posted because you refuse to listen.

The same religious beliefs were held by the xtians who commited the atrocities of the Inquisitions, Crusades and witch hunts as the followers of that same religion hold today.  The same applies to islam; the ones who commited atrocities in the name of their religion hold the same general superstitious religious beliefs as other followers of islam.  Separating the 'extremists' of any superstitious religious belief into different piles so that one pile can try disassociating itself from the other piles is a pointless religious fiction.  To any non-adherent, if the same religious belief is held by extremists of that religious belief as by non-extremists, it's still the same underlying religious belief that's being opposed.
Why thank you.  I would like to say that you are disgusting in your intolerance, but rather, I will say that you are totally ignorant in your dis-belief, and chalk it up that you do not understand what you are talking about.  Sadly, you are mixing your personal prejudice and bias, in with your so-called view.  Now, you indeed have a choice to voice your views and opinions.  As do we.  But your views are dangerous to those who you think you have to judge wrongfully for something they had no control over that happened in the past, or is happening now, under the name of a god/God, when those despicable killers are not true to their god/God.  They are using God's name to achieve their horrible goals because of some personal vendettas they hold against certain people.  You are doing the same thing by holding your personal vendetta of hating anything of God, and holding it against people who do not deserve it. 

In that respect, I am grateful and thankful to my nation's leaders and to God, that you are not in leadership over Christians and Islamists that are not the radical killers, including any other faiths, as well, and that you will never have the opportunity to be a judge or leader over me or them.

Radical Islamists wish to take over the world and rid the world of Christianity.  They will kill to achieve their goals.  Atheists want to rid the world of Christianity.  They want to strip Christians of being able to share their beliefs in public, by removing certain things, by not allowing prayer groups, and so much more that I will not go into here.  You have proven that you are either of the same caliber, or else very sympathetic to their cause, unless you choose to deny that.  If you don't deny, then I consider you a danger to Christians and you should be avoided at all costs. 

To clarify, this is just my humble and concerned opinion, and only you know if it's fact, false, or a put-on for show, just to troll and provoke Christians.  Whichever it is, I am not impressed whatsoever with your reasoning of why you think this is necessary or funny or whatever you think you are doing.

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« Reply #193 on: October 25, 2012, 10:42:47 pm »
Until you read and comment with your answer to my question regarding the Muslims' Islam, this answer is null and void and deliberately posted because you refuse to listen.

The same religious beliefs were held by the xtians who commited the atrocities of the Inquisitions, Crusades and witch hunts as the followers of that same religion hold today.  The same applies to islam; the ones who commited atrocities in the name of their religion hold the same general superstitious religious beliefs as other followers of islam.  Separating the 'extremists' of any superstitious religious belief into different piles so that one pile can try disassociating itself from the other piles is a pointless religious fiction.  To any non-adherent, if the same religious belief is held by extremists of that religious belief as by non-extremists, it's still the same underlying religious belief that's being opposed.

Why thank you. 

That answer was available in this thread, and had been - several previous exchanges ago.  Don't speak to me of ignorance when you're the one who has continually shown such.  To summarize the salient point here; I'm not separating the same basic religious superstitions into different piles of sects or so-called "true-believers".  That's what the religious followers do; apparently in order to try disassociating themselves from other followers of the same religious belief systems.
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« Reply #194 on: October 25, 2012, 10:48:35 pm »
Until you read and comment with your answer to my question regarding the Muslims' Islam, this answer is null and void and deliberately posted because you refuse to listen.

The same religious beliefs were held by the xtians who commited the atrocities of the Inquisitions, Crusades and witch hunts as the followers of that same religion hold today.  The same applies to islam; the ones who commited atrocities in the name of their religion hold the same general superstitious religious beliefs as other followers of islam.  Separating the 'extremists' of any superstitious religious belief into different piles so that one pile can try disassociating itself from the other piles is a pointless religious fiction.  To any non-adherent, if the same religious belief is held by extremists of that religious belief as by non-extremists, it's still the same underlying religious belief that's being opposed.

Why thank you. 

That answer was available in this thread, and had been - several previous exchanges ago.  Don't speak to me of ignorance when you're the one who has continually shown such.  To summarize the salient point here; I'm not separating the same basic religious superstitions into different piles of sects or so-called "true-believers".  That's what the religious followers do; apparently in order to try disassociating themselves from other followers of the same religious belief systems.
I stand on what I said.  You are extremely judgmental and are a danger to Christians and others. 

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