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Re: xtian Cowards
« Reply #120 on: October 19, 2012, 05:05:00 pm »
And again - so what?  It's not your business to tell them what you think they should do, just because you think it's illogical.  They aren't hurting anyone and their lives don't interfere in yours.  Just as yours should not interfere in ours.

Sure, just like the xtian-instigated witch hunts, three xtian-instigated crusades against "non-believers" and various xtian-instigated inquistions didn't "hurt anyone" ... unless you consider torture and death to be "hurting".

I'm not going in a circle again with you about this.  You continue to delude yourself about this and blame all Christians for the actions of those in the past using God's name ...

Documented facts are not delusions; those atrocities were instigated by xtians who held the exact same blind faith as xtians nowadays claim to hold in the same alleged "g-d".  To reiterate the point in mentioning that minor fact; it's my choice to oppose the same belief system which lead to those xtian atrocities as it's your choice to tacitly support them by believing in the exact same thing those xtians did.
No sir.  They used the name of God to achieve their agenda.  They went beyond the boundary of God's commands, and let their personal hate get involved.  I DO NOT BELIEVE AS THEY DID.  KNOCK IT OFF - YOU ARE ONLY SHOWING YOUR IGNORANCE AND NON-ABILITY TO BE REASONABLE ABOUT THIS - BECAUSE YOU LOATHE THE IDEA OF GOD SO MUCH, THAT YOU CANNOT DISCERN RIGHT FROM WRONG.

 You are still playing the role of God yourself, by judging believers in here, and labeling them according to what you think is true - stop the judging - you are no better than anyone else, believer or not.  Oh, and your rulings don't count anyway - since you aren't the judge and ruler over all.  Thank goodness for that.  A believer, in your court, should fear for their rights being stripped - you would not be able to logically make a right decision in their case because of your loathing of Godly things.  In essence, you would be supporting the same horrible agendas of those past people, that you keep trying to blame believers for supporting, when they don't.

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Re: Cowards
« Reply #121 on: October 19, 2012, 05:08:14 pm »
I agree that believers don't get to suppress dissent.  

Yet, you continue to attempt to suppress dissent by falsely characterizing it.  That's disingenuous.  Everytime your religious bias labels an opposing viewpoint as "rude", you're trying to suppress dissent.  Every instance of mislabeling a view which disagrees with your religious one as "disrespectful" is another attempt to suppress dissent.
No way am I falsely characterizing it.  You need to be the man and own up to your hateful actions and trolling towards believers.  It is what it is, no matter how much you try to gloss over or make it seem the opposite.  People in these forums are not stupid - they see exactly what you are doing.  Some even agree with you and enjoy what you do.  But the majority of posters see through you regarding this.

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Re: xtian Cowards
« Reply #122 on: October 19, 2012, 05:12:11 pm »
And again - so what?  It's not your business to tell them what you think they should do, just because you think it's illogical.  They aren't hurting anyone and their lives don't interfere in yours.  Just as yours should not interfere in ours.

Sure, just like the xtian-instigated witch hunts, three xtian-instigated crusades against "non-believers" and various xtian-instigated inquistions didn't "hurt anyone" ... unless you consider torture and death to be "hurting".

I'm not going in a circle again with you about this.  You continue to delude yourself about this and blame all Christians for the actions of those in the past using God's name ...

Documented facts are not delusions; those atrocities were instigated by xtians who held the exact same blind faith as xtians nowadays claim to hold in the same alleged "g-d".  To reiterate the point in mentioning that minor fact; it's my choice to oppose the same belief system which lead to those xtian atrocities as it's your choice to tacitly support them by believing in the exact same thing those xtians did.

They used the name of God to achieve their agenda.  

Yep, same "g-d", same religious belief system and that "agenda" was the torturing/killing of others under the same 'banner' of self-deluding faith which blinds 'believers' today.
One can lead a horse to water however, if one holds the horse's head under, that horse will drown.

             

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Re: xtian Cowards
« Reply #123 on: October 19, 2012, 05:20:15 pm »
The religious topics are allowed in the first place, which means anyone can start a topic of interest regarding whatever they choose to make the topic. 

Just because they're allowed doesn't mean they cannot be opposed.  You still don't get to suppress opposing posts.

Which means nothing is instigated deliberately as you continue to accuse them of. 

Are you suggesting that xtians are 'accidentally' posting religious propaganda because they aren't bright enough to realize that it is proselytiing or, they their blind faith dictates that they don't consider proselytiing to be proselyting?

You are going in circles ...

Illogical religious beliefs cause that sort of thing.  The best that reasoning can do in the face of such blind religious irrationality is to point out teh circularity of blind faith and trust that those who still retain the ability to reason will come to their own conclusions.
"JUST BECAUSE THEY ARE ALLOWED DOESN'T"T MEAN THEY CANNOT BE OPPOSED."  Falcon9 - you are slipping badly.  I agree with that - I have said that several times.  I SAID THAT IT DOES NOT MEAN THEY ARE DELIBERATELY INSTIGATING PROBLEMS.  Wow!  Are you having reading comprehension issues tonight, or are you just deliberately goading with this because it's all you've got?

When you choose to "point out" what you said, it's only natural and expected for others to "point out" to you that they do not accept or agree with your reasoning.  They may be willing to actually discuss things if you weren't acting like you are playing the role of GOD, and acting like you are the only correct one on this subject.

 You act like they cannot choose to keep their choice of believing - so you provoke and mock.  You don't believe our way - fine - your choice.  In fact, no one is pointing out the yays or nays about your choice.  But you can't leave it alone with giving courtesy to the believers.  Sorry, sir, but it's not all about falcon9's way or the highway.  Whether you like it or not, people choose their paths, and they aren't all going to agree with your path.  You don't agree with others' paths, so it doesn't mean they must agree with yours.

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Re: xtian Cowards
« Reply #124 on: October 19, 2012, 05:23:42 pm »
You act like they cannot choose to keep their choice of believing ...

False; I've repeatedly stated that anyone has the option to hold superstitious religious beliefs which are based upon blind faith, just as others have the option to reject such irrationality by way of reason.
One can lead a horse to water however, if one holds the horse's head under, that horse will drown.

             

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Re: xtian Cowards
« Reply #125 on: October 19, 2012, 05:24:19 pm »
And again - so what?  It's not your business to tell them what you think they should do, just because you think it's illogical.  They aren't hurting anyone and their lives don't interfere in yours.  Just as yours should not interfere in ours.

Sure, just like the xtian-instigated witch hunts, three xtian-instigated crusades against "non-believers" and various xtian-instigated inquistions didn't "hurt anyone" ... unless you consider torture and death to be "hurting".

I'm not going in a circle again with you about this.  You continue to delude yourself about this and blame all Christians for the actions of those in the past using God's name ...

Documented facts are not delusions; those atrocities were instigated by xtians who held the exact same blind faith as xtians nowadays claim to hold in the same alleged "g-d".  To reiterate the point in mentioning that minor fact; it's my choice to oppose the same belief system which lead to those xtian atrocities as it's your choice to tacitly support them by believing in the exact same thing those xtians did.

They used the name of God to achieve their agenda.  

Yep, same "g-d", same religious belief system and that "agenda" was the torturing/killing of others under the same 'banner' of self-deluding faith which blinds 'believers' today.
Poor thing.  You are really playing the forgetful old man by repeating what you have repeated, which isn't the complete truth about Christians today.  This shows your spitefulness in only repeating something to deliberately provoke a response.  

I actually have better things to do than to keep humoring you.  I am going to watch a movie with my family, among other things, and spend some quality time with my loved ones.  Have a great night.

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Re: xtian Cowards
« Reply #126 on: October 19, 2012, 05:26:44 pm »
You act like they cannot choose to keep their choice of believing ...

False; I've repeatedly stated that anyone has the option to hold superstitious religious beliefs which are based upon blind faith, just as others have the option to reject such irrationality by way of reason.
No, I disagree with that.  You are being mean and spiteful with name-calling their choice to believe what they choose, when it doesn't agree with your choice.  You are showing your inability to reason with this.
Ta ta for now - my family awaits.

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Re: xtian Cowards
« Reply #127 on: October 19, 2012, 05:28:17 pm »
You are really playing the forgetful old man by repeating what you have repeated ...

The reason it was repeated is not because I'm forgetful but, because faith-blinded xtians who believe the same way those xtians did and who don't recall those atrocities may one day repeat them. This is despite any desire for current xtians to disassociate themselves from past xtians by somehow judging that some self-declared xtians aren't really xtians like other self-declared xtians.
One can lead a horse to water however, if one holds the horse's head under, that horse will drown.

             

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Re: Cowards
« Reply #128 on: October 19, 2012, 05:31:38 pm »
I guess I will have to look up the word. But if your talking about faith. I have it. Don't know where it came from but I caught it just the same.  Have a good day FusionCash members

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Re: xtian Cowards
« Reply #129 on: October 19, 2012, 05:32:02 pm »
You act like they cannot choose to keep their choice of believing ...

False; I've repeatedly stated that anyone has the option to hold superstitious religious beliefs which are based upon blind faith, just as others have the option to reject such irrationality by way of reason.

No, I disagree with that. You are being mean and spiteful with name-calling their choice to believe what they choose, when it doesn't agree with your choice.  You are showing your inability to reason with this.

Of course you do however, such an empty disagreement is not according to any logical reasoning.  Instead, it stems from the inherent bias of your religious beliefs, (whereas, my contention does not stem from any religious belief). Your 'opinion' is therefore devoid of substance and is a specious one.
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Re: Cowards
« Reply #130 on: October 21, 2012, 01:14:38 pm »
Coward's because no one will end the madness of excessive commenting on things that seem to just go round and round.

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Re: Cowards
« Reply #131 on: October 21, 2012, 02:09:03 pm »
Coward's because no one will end the madness of excessive commenting on things that seem to just go round and round.

You must mean like xtians do; basing their specious religious opinions on "blind faith" which is based on "belief" which is based on blind faith ... around and around.
One can lead a horse to water however, if one holds the horse's head under, that horse will drown.

             

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Re: Cowards
« Reply #132 on: October 21, 2012, 09:39:22 pm »
Coward's because no one will end the madness of excessive commenting on things that seem to just go round and round.

You must mean like xtians do; basing their specious religious opinions on "blind faith" which is based on "belief" which is based on blind faith ... around and around.
People have the right to believe and base their belief on whatever evidence or otherwise.  They do not have to answer to you, nor is it any of your business what they choose to do - you see "specious religious opinions" on "blind faith" yet none of that is forcing or coercing you to choose anything but what you wish to choose, for your own personal reasons.  Who cares if things go around and around?  You seem to be so concerned with minding a believer's business instead of minding your own choices.  And yes, I've just gone round and round and round with you, again.  It never ends...

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Re: Cowards
« Reply #133 on: October 21, 2012, 09:50:11 pm »
Coward's because no one will end the madness of excessive commenting on things that seem to just go round and round.

You must mean like xtians do; basing their specious religious opinions on "blind faith" which is based on "belief" which is based on blind faith ... around and around.

People have the right to believe and base their belief on whatever evidence or otherwise. 

I've already stated the same; just as those who oppose such specious religious beliefs have the same option to dissent.  'Believers' do not have any "right" to unopposed superstitious beliefs.
 
They do not have to answer to you ...

True, even when they post such in a publically-accessible forum, they don't "have to answer to" anyone.  It's also true that once such private beliefs become public, (because the believers themselves posted their superstitions), otehrs who choose to can post opposing viewpoints.  You 'believers' have the same option to not respond as otehrs have to respond.  Your ongoing attempts to restrict/censor/suppress such responses are repressive and rejected as such.
One can lead a horse to water however, if one holds the horse's head under, that horse will drown.

             

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Re: Cowards
« Reply #134 on: October 22, 2012, 08:39:07 am »
dont know what this is about, sounds like the person who wrote it has some personal issues going on.

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