How To Handle Christian Persecution On FusionCash

[Ronnis25]

i think you should post what you want and let other people post what they want... if someone doesnt like your god then you cant do anything to them... also if you say your god is good why cant someone else say your god is bad... maybe they have facts or reasonable thoughts... i also seen some lady call "those people" idiots which i think if anything fusioncash would have a problem with that... the forum is a debate im pretty sure not just to share... to me its like saying i love mitt romney i bet there will be people saying i don't like him obama is better and so on... its opinion... if u want to share urs why shouldnt other ppl share theirs... plus isnt persecution not being able to worship your god or being killed? im pretty sure there is no persecution of christians in america... i would say persecution is in another country maybe where if you worship god you will be killed or jailed

You are wrong.  We are so thankful for all the God has done for us, we want to share our God with others.  If we kept him to ourselves it would be a smack in his face.  No I want to shout to the world with God you can do all.  Nothing I mean Nothing is impossible with God!!!!!
God Bless All!
PS I even pray for those who shun my God becasue a day will come when you all will bow before him.

[vp44]

They day we learn to realize that each person have a different frame of mind from other's. 

[falcon9]

i think you should post what you want and let other people post what they want... if someone doesnt like your god then you cant do anything to them... also if you say your god is good why cant someone else say your god is bad... maybe they have facts or reasonable thoughts... i also seen some lady call "those people" idiots which i think if anything fusioncash would have a problem with that... the forum is a debate im pretty sure not just to share... to me its like saying i love mitt romney i bet there will be people saying i don't like him obama is better and so on... its opinion... if u want to share urs why shouldnt other ppl share theirs... plus isnt persecution not being able to worship your god or being killed? im pretty sure there is no persecution of christians in america... i would say persecution is in another country maybe where if you worship god you will be killed or jailed

You are wrong. 

No, he's right as far as it goes.  You're simply a smug, self-righteous, sanctimonious follower of a superstitious religious belief which has no basis other than baseless blind faith.

We are so thankful for all the God has done for us, we want to share our God with others.  If we kept him to ourselves it would be a smack in his face.  No I want to shout to the world with God you can do all. 

So instead, you want to "smack" others with incessant 'g-d'-bothering proselytizing nonsense.  That's extremely offensive to those who haven't blinded themselves with self-delusional 'faith'.
 

PS I even pray for those who shun my God becasue a day will come when you all will bow before him.

Your presumptious and offensive religious opinion has no basis in fact or, extrapolation of fact and relies instead upon nearly total faith-based blindness.

[momoney555]

I don't look at the replies to my posts.
I just post and let it go.

I agree.  If certain posters don't like religious prosthelytizing why wouldn't they just "ignore"  
Christians (or xtians) or better yet, not purposely seek them out just for arguments sake.  That would be the normal response.

[falcon9]

If certain posters don't like religious prosthelytizing why wouldn't they just "ignore"  
Christians (or xtians) or better yet, not purposely seek them out just for arguments sake.  That would be the normal response.

Alternatively, if xtians don't like opposing/dissenting points of view, why don't they just use the ignore button instead of initiating trolling and calling-out threads?

[nhendrickson]

If certain posters don't like religious prosthelytizing why wouldn't they just "ignore"  
Christians (or xtians) or better yet, not purposely seek them out just for arguments sake.  That would be the normal response.

Alternatively, if xtians don't like opposing/dissenting points of view, why don't they just use the ignore button instead of initiating trolling and calling-out threads?

Because it allows them to feel smug and superior and supports a victim mentality that makes them feel that they are being persecuted when other people just don't agree with them or simply question them.  Given that the early Christians were killed or physically tortured for their beliefs, I think it's very arrogant and prideful (neither of which are Christian virtues) for anyone to compare this "persecution" to genuine religious persecution that results in death or mutilation.  This kind of thing does not convert or convince anyone especially if they are seeking information or answers rather than just have someone regurgitate scripture that he or she liklely doesn't understand.

[falcon9]

If certain posters don't like religious prosthelytizing why wouldn't they just "ignore"  
Christians (or xtians) or better yet, not purposely seek them out just for arguments sake.  That would be the normal response.

Because it allows them to feel smug and superior and supports a victim mentality that makes them feel that they are being persecuted when other people just don't agree with them or simply question them.  Given that the early Christians were killed or physically tortured for their beliefs, I think it's very arrogant and prideful (neither of which are Christian virtues) for anyone to compare this "persecution" to genuine religious persecution that results in death or mutilation. 

Worse yet, this non-persecution doesn't even come close to the actual persecutions commited by xtians during the various crusades, inquistions and witch hunts, (to reiterate a few examples of xtian atrocities).

This kind of thing does not convert or convince anyone especially if they are seeking information or answers rather than just have someone regurgitate scripture that he or she liklely doesn't understand.

Irrational beliefs in religious supersitions sometimes can convince a few who aren't presented with opposing rational/logical viewpoints or, would be unconvinced by reasoning and swayed by any blind faith.

[jcribb16]

Look, I am no fan of religion. But I cannot see anyone wasting their time just trying to bash other people for their beliefs. If thats what you believe and it makes you happy, thats your right. But I think that since this is a forum, people do have a right to their opinion. But I do see your frustration with someone just spam bashing. You could send and email to admin if you want.

Opposing rampant and initial religious proselytization is not "spam bashing".  No one forces those who publically post private religious beliefs to do so however, if they choose to do so, others have the same option to post dissenting viewpoints.  There's no inherent nor constitutional or FC "right" to post superstitious beliefs without opposition.  One can always employ the ignore button, skip posts, or push for one-sided censorship.

In red:  And you could follow your own advice.

Clearly, I've chosen to oppose specious religious propagandizing because it promotes and enables the faith-blinding of any latent ability to reason.
On the other hand, you've chosen not to use the ignore function because, (as you've posted about), you see yourself as some sort of pseudo-champion of the xtian pseudo-underdogs.  You're not, they're not and any "belief" which cannot be challenged because a 'believer' says so, is already too weak to stand questioning.

It's actually none of your business whether believers or even non-believers have any "latent ability to reason."  They are free to "reason" however they wish. 

I'm no "pseudo-champion of Christian pseudo-underdogs."  When Christians are personally insulted for their rights to their belief; or when they are mocked, disrespected, and accused of things they are not doing, other Christians support, encourage, and stand up for them.  You have some people in here who do the same for you with your mistreatment towards believers, so actually, if the shoe fits...

[jcribb16]

Christians DO NOT call themselves FUNDIES.

That assertion is false and supporting evidence to show its falsehood has been already been provided however, more is on the way due to your insistant ignorance.

You have been told this before.  You are forcing your names onto believers within your twisted context and loathing of Godly things.

You're an ignorant liar as the following shows;

"The word fundamentalism originally referred to fundamental beliefs that existed solely within Christianity. many evangelical Christian leaders and churchmen who believed in the inerrancy of the Bible came together and formed the American Bible League in 1902. Between 1910 and 1915 these evangelicals published a series of 12 pamphlets called The Fundamentals: A testimony to the truth."
-- http://creationwiki.org/Fundamentalism

Clear evidence therefore exists to contradict your unfounded 'offense' at a xtian term, applied by xtians to some xtians.

ONCE AGAIN:  We do NOT call ourselves "fundies" nor "xtains."

It's 'xtians', not "xtains".  It's just as easy to get what your complaining about right for an "English teacher" as it is to write it 100 times on a blackboard to learn that.  Regardless, both terms were coined by xtians to describe other xtians.

I am specifically using the specific shortcut sarcastic words you use to refer to us. Fundie is not fundamentalist.  Please get that.

It's amusing that you presume to give 'orders' as if I'd obey a religious zealot.  Heh.  Be that as it may, both terms are abbreviations of the same words coined by xtians.  Your point is therefore a non sequitur and logically irrelevant.

So you admit you are using them to provoke.

There is no such admission in my replies because your assertion is false, (a lie). 

You are ridiculous.

And you've posted yet another lie, in your own words, which is not some 'twist' or reinterpretation of those words while still choosing do dodge rebuttals of your recent contentions regarding the origins of "fundie/fundamentalist" and "xtian".  By now, anyone else would have learned that such diversions don't work on me; perhaps such remedial reiterations are required unless you never will 'get it'.

You love using "lie" and "liar" a lot.  You go so overboard, that it's obvious you are covering up your insecurity at being afraid of not being in total control of the discussions.  In your eyes, you are never wrong, while believers are always wrong - you are just as imperfect as anyone else on this board. 

You are a sinner just like everyone else everywhere.  We are all imperfect in one way or another, and we are all sinners.  You have made several ongoing accusations towards believers that are also "lies" though we all know you will deny it - because to you - you are never wrong.

Some people who think they are so high and mighty, eventually fall flat on their faces, because they trip right over themselves.  While many will admit to having fallen flat, there are others who will not because of pride and arrogance.

[falcon9]

It's actually none of your business whether believers or even non-believers have any "latent ability to reason."  They are free to "reason" however they wish. 

When they, or anyone, posts to a forum with irrational non-reasoning, they're making it other people's "business" and those others are as "free" to oppose such nonsense as 'believers' are to post nonsense.
 

I'm no "pseudo-champion of Christian pseudo-underdogs."  

Then someone has been using your computer and 'nym to post numerous archived examples of your acting like one.

[falcon9]

 
 

You have been told this before.  You are forcing your names onto believers within your twisted context and loathing of Godly things.

You're an ignorant liar as the following shows;

"The word fundamentalism originally referred to fundamental beliefs that existed solely within Christianity. many evangelical Christian leaders and churchmen who believed in the inerrancy of the Bible came together and formed the American Bible League in 1902. Between 1910 and 1915 these evangelicals published a series of 12 pamphlets called The Fundamentals: A testimony to the truth."
-- http://creationwiki.org/Fundamentalism

Clear evidence therefore exists to contradict your unfounded 'offense' at a xtian term, applied by xtians to some xtians.

ONCE AGAIN:  We do NOT call ourselves "fundies" nor "xtains."

It's 'xtians', not "xtains".  It's just as easy to get what your complaining about right for an "English teacher" as it is to write it 100 times on a blackboard to learn that.  Regardless, both terms were coined by xtians to describe other xtians.

I am specifically using the specific shortcut sarcastic words you use to refer to us. Fundie is not fundamentalist.  Please get that.

It's amusing that you presume to give 'orders' as if I'd obey a religious zealot.  Heh.  Be that as it may, both terms are abbreviations of the same words coined by xtians.  Your point is therefore a non sequitur and logically irrelevant.

So you admit you are using them to provoke.

There is no such admission in my replies because your assertion is false, (a lie).

You are ridiculous.

And you've posted yet another lie, in your own words, which is not some 'twist' or reinterpretation of those words while still choosing do dodge rebuttals of your recent contentions regarding the origins of "fundie/fundamentalist" and "xtian".  By now, anyone else would have learned that such diversions don't work on me; perhaps such remedial reiterations are required unless you never will 'get it'.

You love using "lie" and "liar" a lot.  

You posted lies, I indicated where you lied, you don't like that, life is rough.

You are a sinner just like everyone else everywhere.  

Your religious precepts don't apply to me since I'm not a follower of your superstitious beliefs.

[premar16]

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[jcribb16]

If certain posters don't like religious prosthelytizing why wouldn't they just "ignore"  
Christians (or xtians) or better yet, not purposely seek them out just for arguments sake.  That would be the normal response.

Alternatively, if xtians don't like opposing/dissenting points of view, why don't they just use the ignore button instead of initiating trolling and calling-out threads?

It is NOT "initiating trolling."  It is a topic of many, which are ALLOWED, on this forum.  People have interests and look to find others who share the same interests.  No one is forcing you to open threads that do not pertain to you or your interests.  And if you do go in, opposition is natural and normal.  However, intolerance and constant bashing, go beyond opposition, according to debating and discussion; especially if the threads are in the Off Topic section.

If they were actual trolling posts, they would be removed, banned, and then you would have a legitimate gripe.  As for the "call-out" threads, I agree that those threads are wrong and unnecessary, although I can understand the frustration of ones who attempt them.  And notice, those particular threads were locked and reminded posters that call-out threads are not permitted. 

[falcon9]

If certain posters don't like religious prosthelytizing why wouldn't they just "ignore"  
Christians (or xtians) or better yet, not purposely seek them out just for arguments sake.  That would be the normal response.

Alternatively, if xtians don't like opposing/dissenting points of view, why don't they just use the ignore button instead of initiating trolling and calling-out threads?

It is NOT "initiating trolling." 

The reference was to two recent, (and several previous), threads which were calling-out/trolling threads started/initiated by xtians.  Those
threads were subsequently locked by Admin as being against FC posting policies.

No one is forcing you to open threads that do not pertain to you or your interests.  

No one is 'forcing' you or others to read replies which oppose your interests.

If they were actual trolling posts, they would be removed, banned, and then you would have a legitimate gripe. 

The calling-out threads referred to were locked, though those who started them were not banned.
 

As for the "call-out" threads, I agree that those threads are wrong and unnecessary, although I can understand the frustration of ones who attempt them.  And notice, those particular threads were locked and reminded posters that call-out threads are not permitted. 

Since those are the threads which were being referred to, I'm already aware of what happened.  As to other threads which have not been deemed as "trolling" by FC Admin/moderators, those often contain the same content as calling-out threads however, FC uses more than that as moderation criteria.

[tantricia44]

tuscarorarain~As a Christian,you don't seem to have the ability to handle tolerance for other people that are different from you.You have no right to tell me or others what to think or say here on this site.Freedom of speech gives me the right to agree or disagree to what is posted.&I make the the decision whether to respond or not to respond.What are you Christians actually taught cause,all I've seen(on this site)is Christians that are haters to other people's ideas,thoughts,religions.No,tolerance for anything but what they believe...If you're not Christian than you're evilor a sinner!Whatever happened to love thy neighbor or turn the cheek?I guess Jesus just wasted his time dying to save your souls cause it's obvious that you Christians are nothing like what Jesus represented.He represented,tolerance,love,forgiveness,under
standing others different from you,kindness,humility..unconditional Love!A true Christian would have the serenity to try to under stand the words of others even if they're words seem harsh&rude.I don't see the teachings of Christ displayed or expressed by those who claim they're Christians on FC site.You can call yourself Christian but if you can't follow what true Christians represent ;then you're NOT a Christian!As for those dumping on Queenie & Falcon..Watch out,they probably know the bible better than u
do inside &out! &yes,they can use your own bible against you.;DSo,sweetie,If you can't take the heat then stay out of the fire!

That's strange. If you don't believe there is a Christ, then how would you know so much about what a true Christian represents?I never said I believed or I don't believeHow do you know and feel you have the right to judge Christians,based on something you apparently don't believe is real?Or,are you a Christian, and I've missed that somewhere along the way?Telling others,how they shouldn't judge others,by judging them,is also judging,right? It's okay for you to give your views and opinions on the matter, but not a Christian?  [/quoteSighhhhh,Please read your bible,I don't have time to spoon feed you, stuff that you should know by now from your own bible!:BangHead:You completely missed the point & turned something positive in2 that black negativeness that we see on this site.Can't even tell when someone's placing the people & religion on a higher plane! :dontknow:I don't know what to do anymore about this group....I give up!