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Re: How To Handle Christian Persecution On FusionCash
« Reply #165 on: October 19, 2012, 11:56:47 pm »
I'm speaking to the thread. All, I did not quote you so I wasn't directly speaking to you. :wave:

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Re: How To Handle Christian Persecution On FusionCash
« Reply #166 on: October 20, 2012, 12:01:45 am »
When someone doesn't quote what they're 'replying' to, it comes across as a passive-aggressiveness pseudo-martyr act.  It doesn't make any sense to 'speak to a thread' since the thread itself isn't an independent entity that can respond and this isn't a 'blog'; it's an FC forum where members can post replies if they choose to do so.  Members do not get to dictate the content of any such replies, nor do they have any form of a 'right' to unopposed, unsubstantiated opininating.

I'm speaking to the thread. All, I did not quote you so I wasn't directly speaking to you. :wave:
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Re: How To Handle Christian Persecution On FusionCash
« Reply #167 on: October 20, 2012, 12:08:13 am »
You know what Falcon9 I'm tired of you and your comments immediately after. Yeah I sometimes read what you say and yes you are on ignore. You really are harassing people. There is nothing about what you think your doing as freedom of speech because you don't give another person to speak. You just jump on that person's comments like you have this right to speak on everybody thought's. You don't control people's feeling or thought's. Do yourself a favor and read another book. Your actions are speaking louder than your word's. ???

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Re: How To Handle Christian Persecution On FusionCash
« Reply #168 on: October 20, 2012, 12:16:38 am »
You know what Falcon9 I'm tired of you and your comments immediately after.

It's non-coincidental that I'm weary of your tedious religious fundamentalism however, you have the same option to post such superstitious nonsense as I do to oppose it.

Yeah I sometimes read what you say and yes you are on ignore. You really are harassing people.

Not unless the threads and posts promoting religious superstitions are "harassing people" as well. You still have the 'ostrich' option of using the 'ignore' button to not-ignore.

There is nothing about what you think your doing as freedom of speech because you don't give another person to speak.

If your jumbled grammar is correctly understood; the accusation is false.  Other religious adherents have been able and continue to be able to post as they choose, (sometimes within FC's guidelines and sometimes beyond those guidelines).  I'm not the one trying to suppress opposing viewpoints; several xtians are.

You just jump on that person's comments like you have this right to speak on everybody thought's. You don't control people's feeling or thought's. Do yourself a favor and read another book. Your actions are speaking louder than your word's. ???

I have the same option to respond/not respond as any other member of FC and this does not constitute 'controlling' "people's feeling or thoughts" so, your fumbling accusation is false.  No wonder you support a repressive subforum where your specious religious superstitions can go unopposed.
« Last Edit: October 20, 2012, 12:39:19 am by falcon9 »
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Re: How To Handle Christian Persecution On FusionCash
« Reply #169 on: October 20, 2012, 12:18:54 am »
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I'm speaking to the thread. All, I did not quote you so I wasn't directly speaking to you.

Alright! No worries. Falcon9's response pretty much nailed it-- so many people don't quote who they're talking to on FC so I just assumed it was directed at my post.

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Re: How To Handle Christian Persecution On FusionCash
« Reply #170 on: October 20, 2012, 12:51:23 am »
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I'm speaking to the thread. All, I did not quote you so I wasn't directly speaking to you.

Alright! No worries. Falcon9's response pretty much nailed it-- so many people don't quote who they're talking to on FC so I just assumed it was directed at my post.
Yeah, no worries. Seems now days people are on the attack mode, including myself. Nothing towards you personally.

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Re: How To Handle Christian Persecution On FusionCash
« Reply #171 on: October 20, 2012, 05:16:28 am »
Look, I am no fan of religion. But I cannot see anyone wasting their time just trying to bash other people for their beliefs. If thats what you believe and it makes you happy, thats your right. But I think that since this is a forum, people do have a right to their opinion. But I do see your frustration with someone just spam bashing. You could send and email to admin if you want.

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Re: How To Handle Christian Persecution On FusionCash
« Reply #172 on: October 20, 2012, 05:27:16 am »
Look, I am no fan of religion. But I cannot see anyone wasting their time just trying to bash other people for their beliefs. If thats what you believe and it makes you happy, thats your right. But I think that since this is a forum, people do have a right to their opinion. But I do see your frustration with someone just spam bashing. You could send and email to admin if you want.

Opposing rampant and initial religious proselytization is not "spam bashing".  No one forces those who publically post private religious beliefs to do so however, if they choose to do so, others have the same option to post dissenting viewpoints.  There's no inherent nor constitutional or FC "right" to post superstitious beliefs without opposition.  One can always employ the ignore button, skip posts, or push for one-sided censorship.
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Re: How To Handle Christian Persecution On FusionCash
« Reply #173 on: October 20, 2012, 08:36:28 pm »
So sick of the "fundies" word  :P

So am I - it's actually a sarcastic word, and is enjoying being used because it's known we don't like it.  It just shows the disrespect and common courtesy.

No, it isn't and your false characterization of the term "fundie/fundamentalist" is contradicted by the fact that "fundamentalism" was originally coined by its supporters to describe a specific package of theological beliefs that developed into a movement within the Protestant community of the United States in the early part of the 20th century.*  Since it is a term coined by xtian fundies to describe their own fundamentalist 'beliefs', it is not inherently derrogatory, sarcastic or disrepectful.  The continued attempts by xtian fundies to try censoring descriptive terms they don't like has been tedious for some time now.

* - Buescher, John. "A History of Fundamentalism"
Christians DO NOT call themselves FUNDIES.  You have been told this before.  You are forcing your names onto believers within your twisted context and loathing of Godly things.

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Re: How To Handle Christian Persecution On FusionCash
« Reply #174 on: October 20, 2012, 08:47:11 pm »
Christians DO NOT call themselves FUNDIES. 

That assertion is false and supporting evidence to show its falsehood has been already been provided however, more is on the way due to your insistant ignorance.

You have been told this before.  You are forcing your names onto believers within your twisted context and loathing of Godly things.

You're an ignorant liar as the following shows;

"The word fundamentalism originally referred to fundamental beliefs that existed solely within Christianity. many evangelical Christian leaders and churchmen who believed in the inerrancy of the Bible came together and formed the American Bible League in 1902. Between 1910 and 1915 these evangelicals published a series of 12 pamphlets called The Fundamentals: A testimony to the truth."
-- http://creationwiki.org/Fundamentalism

Clear evidence therefore exists to contradict your unfounded 'offense' at a xtian term, applied by xtians to some xtians.
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Re: How To Handle Christian Persecution On FusionCash
« Reply #175 on: October 20, 2012, 09:02:54 pm »
God 21. falcon9 zilch.
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Re: How To Handle Christian Persecution On FusionCash
« Reply #176 on: October 20, 2012, 09:06:21 pm »
God 21. falcon9 zilch.

You are seriously deluded; from the posts here alone it would be "g-d": zero evidence, "falcon9": landslide decision
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Re: How To Handle Christian Persecution On FusionCash
« Reply #177 on: October 20, 2012, 09:06:28 pm »
Ever heard of these terms: "to each his / her own" ; "live and let live." Neither one of us is the JUDGE.

Yes, have you ever heard of the concepts of 'private beliefs' and 'public proselytization'?  Anyone who wishes to hold self-deluding religious beliefs in the privacy of their mind is free to do so.  Once such unsubstantiated 'beliefs' leave the confines of the 'mind' of a 'believer' and spill out into public venues, those who don't hold such blind faith have the option of dissent and opposition.  Since I don't hold religious blind faith, religious prohibitions against 'judging' do not apply to me.  Everyone judges; including xtians, otherwise they wouldn't be judging non-xtians in the manner extensively archived here.
Okay then.  I am offended by your belief in nothing, because it is teaching the public that it is acceptable to hate and speak hate to other groups who refuse to be quiet, sow hatred towards those who are spiritual, and how your hate is "spilling" out into public forums, derailing any thread, Biblical, that is actually allowed in the forum, and in which I don't hold your "atheistic-type" views because of how they are intended to destroy those people who do believe in God; and your views are very dangerous and judgmental to believers who want to discuss their interests like anyone else does with other topics.

 Your views are also trying to hinder others from speaking of their inspirational verses and quotes, which is actually trying to squelch the Constitutional freedom of religion (or no religion,) speech, and expression.  Your views can be discussed and are not provoked, whereas our views are totally not allowed to be discussed by you because of the offensive remarks, pictures, and quotes, that are trying to shut us up from enjoying a forum that we like.

 Your views are harmful, in that they are psychologically twisted to try and trip believers and make them look, seem, and appear, insane and irrational of mind. Your views are harmful to the extent that many posters have asked for respect and common courtesy and have been chewed out and ignored as an answer; and harmful because many other posters felt they had to leave this wonderful forum, because of the harsh treatment representing your views on them and their friends.  Your views do not allow give and take with mature discussion, and are clearly one-sided, hateful, and offensive to me.

This may sound stupid to you, falcon9, but I'm giving your "judgmental attitudes, unacceptance, disrespect, rudeness, lack of common courtesy, etc.," back to you - you are indeed a cold person towards believers only.  I don't personally care what you believe or don't believe, as it is your business.  But you have gone way overboard with your obvious hate towards believers, especially in some of the threads where they don't have "falcon9's" name ordering him to open the threads, and forcing him to read verses and quotes he hates.  DON'T OPEN THE THREAD AND YOU WON'T BE AFFECTED - YOU ARE DELIBERATELY DOING SO IN ORDER TO BLAME BELIEVERS.

If you are so bothered by believers and their threads, then perhaps you should either find a forum you feel pampered, loved, and praised in, or else make your own threads you like, or enter only the threads you like.  I'm not TELLING you to do any of this - I'm suggesting.  STOP WITH THIS RIDICULOUS BEHAVIOR, PLEASE.  People are leery of reporting you because of responses that come out of it, but you have crossed the boundary line, IN MY OPINION, with the "golden rule."

Then you have the nerve to get mad because someone posts a thread with your name in it (like the prayer one.)  I know we are not to call out people, under certain guidelines.  However, you are so hateful in the Bible threads that some posters are doing what they feel they should do because of the frustration.  You cannot stand for one to say they are going to pray for you.  Whether I pray for you or not - you will never know because it's personal.  But with your reaction to that thread, you should, then, understand the frustration of how we have to handle your hateful and unaccepted views towards believers, because you are now handling views directed solely to you in the area you don't like.  In other words?  Most Bible threads posted in here are NOT directed solely to FALCON9 - they are topics of interest, like any other topics, for any and everyone who is interested.  Be an adult in here, and act like one.  You can CHOOSE not to open threads YOU DON'T LIKE.

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Re: How To Handle Christian Persecution On FusionCash
« Reply #178 on: October 20, 2012, 09:08:37 pm »
honestly i am just tired of this topic being everywhere bottom line is everyone and i mean EVERYONE needs to respectful of others believes :BangHead:  i dont care if they believe in jesus,god,allah,mother earth,the goddess,the universe or a pink bunny if it keeps them from being an axe murderer than cool let everyone do what they want if they post things let them they are not hurting you ...

What if their 'religious beliefs' induce them to become "crusaders" who kill and maim 'non-believers'?  Or, use those same religious beliefs to 'justify' witch hunts, instigate inquistions or become "an axe murderer" because they believed someone else was a 'demon'? 
Oh hush up, already.  You keep bringing that up over and over and over and over....  You are deliberately doing this to provoke and make believers look bad.  Get over it already. 

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Re: How To Handle Christian Persecution On FusionCash
« Reply #179 on: October 20, 2012, 09:12:33 pm »
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Who are you to say that this is what's actually happening

Are you speaking to me? If so, I am just respectfully adding my .02 to premar's post. And I constantly see this behavior on this forum-- labelling opposition who simply challenge claims as persecutors.

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Stop with the feeling you think you can correct another person's feeling's or thought's.

If I see a possible hole is someone's argument, I will speak up as I am free to do so on this forum. I'm adding to her post. She has every right to respond if she thinks I'm incorrect in my reasonings. You do too!
Oh no no no no no!  His are not just "simply" challenging.  His are beyond that scope and are hateful.  At least you will discuss things when put out there, even if you still always come to the same conclusion of not accepting it.  But you are willing to listen and respond with reasons back.  He doesn't even do that - he just provokes with rude comments, and pictures that are mocking either God or believers.  And people have had more than enough.

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