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ghada1

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Re: Which president do you prefer?
« Reply #15 on: April 15, 2009, 08:34:06 pm »
This country and it's economy was so much better when Clinton was around running things. :thumbsup:  But I think Obama is gonna do good things to helps us out!!!

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Re: Which president do you prefer?
« Reply #16 on: April 15, 2009, 10:10:13 pm »
Obama all the way. the reason i like him is because he seems to know that choices that he makes will have an effect in the long run although it may not seem like it at the beginning.

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Re: Which president do you prefer?
« Reply #17 on: April 16, 2009, 01:00:27 am »
Obama all the way. the reason i like him is because he seems to know that choices that he makes will have an effect in the long run although it may not seem like it at the beginning.

Yeah like his choices to bailout the bankers now, will effect us for generations to come as the economy inflates and the value drops, and our taxes also go up... Also that *bleep* talked a lot about supporting the legalization of marijuana, and now he clearly states it will never happen and its a bad idea... just another hypocrite.. but he is good cop.. so he does everything for YOU to save you and protect your future with government programs and government spending on YOU... Bush is bad cop, he is more the attitude of "we will use your money to make us all more powerfull.. its all about us, the country, everyone... We are all going to die if you do not do as I say, fear, fear, fear"... but both = more troops sent overseas (afghanistan, or iraq, whats the difference?) and more government spending... and more taxes.

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Re: Which president do you prefer?
« Reply #18 on: April 16, 2009, 08:22:00 am »
I don't know how many people believe in God or revelations.First there will be blood shed(war in Iraq and 9.11)then God would send a man from the east with scales to bring peace(Obama).As human beings we can't say what he is going to do but as a strong believer in God, we must have faith that God will guide him to do whats right.It may not be what you want but God only gives us what we need.Give Obama time.Nothing happens over night.Everthing is a process(especially w/the government) and takes time.
But I agree Clinton was a cool president.Who cares what he did?He's human and has needs.Personally if it helped him think better so that he could protect and run our country then I'm down.Mrs.Clinton should have been handling it..lol

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Re: Which president do you prefer?
« Reply #19 on: April 16, 2009, 06:32:11 pm »
We need another Washington or Lincoln truthfully.  The nation has been in shambles too long.  However, I think Obama will give it his best and is trying to help.

AMEN!  We have not had any presidents that stand up to these two.  I know that everyone thinks that Obama is doing so great for the country and I did too even thought I did not vote for him up until a few weeks ago.  I understand that he is trying to help the economy, but now he is cutting into one economy that was doing just fine until he decided to start busting the chops of the coal mines for which my husband works and now we have the possibility of having to worry about how many hours he is going to get to work.  THANKS OBAMA!

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Re: Which president do you prefer?
« Reply #20 on: April 16, 2009, 06:53:27 pm »
agreed, RON PAUL !  :wave:

i'm registered democrat and i still loved ron paul.

QFFT! i voted RP aswell..he was the only solution...Obama is the Government's biggest puppet yet...He is goin to help them bring about the NWO.

It's true after all.

The Ron Paul supporters are mostly conspiracy theory nutcases -.-

Are people really that paranoid?

First there will be blood shed(war in Iraq and 9.11)

Wow, this is very descriptive!  There has been bloodshed since the dawn of recorded history, be it war or just plain murder in society....  ::)

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then God would send a man from the east with scales to bring peace(Obama)

Every single President makes "bringing world peace" part of their campaign.  Obama was born in the US and has Kenyan and North American lineage.  He's clearly spent as much time (actually probably more) in the west as he did in Indonesia (the east), so what is your point?

Revelations was written by a hermetic, paranoid individual who contradicted himself or herself every 5 sentences =/
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Re: Which president do you prefer?
« Reply #21 on: April 16, 2009, 07:13:26 pm »
Obama all the way. the reason i like him is because he seems to know that choices that he makes will have an effect in the long run although it may not seem like it at the beginning.

Yeah like his choices to bailout the bankers now, will effect us for generations to come as the economy inflates and the value drops, and our taxes also go up... Also that *bleep* talked a lot about supporting the legalization of marijuana, and now he clearly states it will never happen and its a bad idea... just another hypocrite.. but he is good cop.. so he does everything for YOU to save you and protect your future with government programs and government spending on YOU... Bush is bad cop, he is more the attitude of "we will use your money to make us all more powerfull.. its all about us, the country, everyone... We are all going to die if you do not do as I say, fear, fear, fear"... but both = more troops sent overseas (afghanistan, or iraq, whats the difference?) and more government spending... and more taxes.

The Bush Administration left the economy in a position where there is no other choice but expansionary policy, which is what the Obama Administration is carrying out.  You cannot allow the banks to fail, regardless of what you have to do to keep that from happening.  You cannot let deflation run out of control, regardless of what you have to do to stop it.  Letting everything fall (especially the banks) is not the inherent answer, as many expert economists will tell you.

The government spending isn't that big of a deal considering consumer spending the last couple years has dropped nearly $1 trillion...to put it simply, it's relatively even still.  Does it make a difference if consumers are doing the spending or government is doing the spending?  Frankly, not really as long as it's going into our economy.

I could be wrong, but I don't believe Obama ever clearly stated his position on marijuana legalization before he was elected.  I think people who wanted legalization pushed the idea that Obama was pro-full legalization. I also think Obama doesn't think it's an important, relevant issue at the current time...and it really isn't to be honest.  Call your Congressman if you want it pushed, as they're the people who are going to push such a bill.  The President has too much to lose to focus on such a trivial bill right now, especially when there is still a gross social stigma/reputation surrounding marijuana.

As for the "what's the difference between Afghanistan and Iraq:"  One was an unnecessary war (at the time) that had nothing to do with 9/11 and was a random retaliation brought about by constant lying, fear mongering, and injustices to the American people by the Bush Administration.  Afghanistan was a direct retaliation on the groups/individuals responsible for an attack on our own soil and the murder of almost 3,000 US citizens.  That would be the prime difference.  Clearly Afghanistan was basically forgotten by the Bush Administration.  US and other troop deaths were off the charts, Taliban had a very strong foothold, etc.  Not to mention that the leaders of those who attacked us are on the border between Afghanistan and Pakistan, which is all the more reason to focus there if we truly want justice for what happened (something, I'm unsure if the Bush Administration wanted).

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Re: Which president do you prefer?
« Reply #22 on: April 16, 2009, 08:23:59 pm »
Clinton is hands down my favourite, his term as president was when the United States was the top country in the world, and from then on, the our standing internationally has gone down quite a bit.

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Re: Which president do you prefer?
« Reply #23 on: April 16, 2009, 08:34:57 pm »
Clinton, with the help of Bush Sr., set up our economy to fail.  It was simply unsustainable when they Clinton office.

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Re: Which president do you prefer?
« Reply #24 on: April 16, 2009, 09:46:08 pm »
I seem to be a lonely republican in this forum. ;) I really liked both of the Bush's.  However I agree with an earlier post.  If I was to pick one president to re-vote into office I would vote Thomas Jefferson.  He is basically the creator of this country not George Washington, and he did everything in his power to make this a country of the people, however he had to make other politicians happy in order to even do what he did so the system isn't as good as it could have been.  I look up to him a great deal.

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Re: Which president do you prefer?
« Reply #25 on: April 17, 2009, 08:08:36 am »
I think we need another Roosevelt.  It's time for another New Deal.  Obama's bailouts keep getting compared to Roosevelt's New Deal, and nothing could be further from the truth.

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Re: Which president do you prefer?
« Reply #26 on: April 17, 2009, 08:19:26 am »
I prefer Obama.  He's  the man I voted for and he's the person I support! 8)

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Re: Which president do you prefer?
« Reply #27 on: April 17, 2009, 09:50:03 am »
Well I see that all are not a firm believer in God and what has already been written.Sometimes we must release our minds from these "wordly" thoughts and realize that everything that we are going through was already said that we would go through it.It's already written.Now we know that everyday someone dies but they spoke of war when they said blood would be shed.A meaningless war.And when I speak of meaningless I mean everythingcould have been prevented.The same way Clinton resolved the last war we "thought" we were going to have.Obama is here to fix what Bush has done.And sometimes people things will get worst before they get better.Because we must first recognize the problem and face them unlike what Bush did.And when facing a problem that someone was running from or ignoring how can you not think that it would get worst?It's sad that we don't realize the simplest things.And because we are so blinded man will be the destruction of himself.Have you not realize that we don't always have someone else to blame when there's something wrong because sometimes we are our the blame for our own problems.And I don't contradict myself,I only tell you what was already told.But I guess it doesn't refer to those who don't know God or walk with him.I use to be one of those people but praise the Lord I'm not anymore.And when you spoke that every president has talked about world peace in their campaign,well  okay understand that people can say anything that they want but it's up to you on what you believe.(Bush is that man on the red horse,Obama is the man on the black horse and on the other horse was Bush Sr.)Bush Sr. tried to start something,Clinton came to fix it,Bush Jr. came in and picked up where has dad left off and Obama is here to fix it.And that's all I have to say.So you have a good day anyways.
PS-These forums are created for general conversation and thoughts and not to knock anyone else for their opinion.We all have opinions and why not share them in a more respectful way rather than stepping on anyone toes?We are all entitled to our opinions and I did not intentionally create this forum to have everyone upset or downing each others opinion.So allow us to be adults about this.

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Re: Which president do you prefer?
« Reply #28 on: April 17, 2009, 11:31:20 am »
This past election was nothing compared to Bush vs Kerry in the lesser of two evils.  At least Obama and McCain were concerned with fixing the nation as opposed to destroying it (I was NEVER a Bush fan). 

Good luck to Obama, I really want to see the nation in a better situation in four years.

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Re: Which president do you prefer?
« Reply #29 on: April 17, 2009, 03:50:28 pm »
To those crowing that Obama is going to raise taxes- yes, on those making over $250,000 a year.  95% of Americans will receive a tax cut.

Of the 4 choices:
1) Obama
2) Clinton
3) Bush Sr.

Dumbya gets tossed down to number 44.  What a disaster.

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