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trop8cana

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Which president do you prefer?
« on: April 14, 2009, 01:28:50 pm »
If you could choose another president, which would you support.Be honest.:-) :wave:

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Re: Which president do you prefer?
« Reply #1 on: April 14, 2009, 01:50:13 pm »
We need another Washington or Lincoln truthfully.  The nation has been in shambles too long.  However, I think Obama will give it his best and is trying to help.

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Re: Which president do you prefer?
« Reply #2 on: April 14, 2009, 01:52:05 pm »
Lincoln was incredibly unpopular in his time of Presidency.  History will tell...it's much too early to form judgments.

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Re: Which president do you prefer?
« Reply #3 on: April 14, 2009, 01:53:29 pm »
Ronnie,,, Teddy R.

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Re: Which president do you prefer?
« Reply #4 on: April 14, 2009, 02:18:42 pm »
Thomas Jefferson is the president who worked most for the freedom of individuals. Some will mention that he had slaves, but this is a non-issue, honestly. It's like saying a company is bad because they used a cancer-causing insulation decades ago. It was common practice. Doesn't make it right, but it absolves him from being singled out.

Jefferson was a federalist in the real meaning of the word, not the meaning employed by The Federalist and other such writings and modes of thought. Those ideals, championed by Washington, Adams, Alexander Hamilton, and more were not federalist in any way. They were nationalists, wanted to create an all-encompassing national government to be in charge of the states. A real federalist, like Jefferson, pleaded for a limited federal government with no real control over the individual citizens of each state. It would act as an instrument of organization between the sovereign states. The state governments would be independent and in charge of leveeing taxes and enforcement of their own laws.

Funny thing: the feredalist ideal won in the ratification debates, as we can see in our Constitution's final draft. This is also why we have the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT and call this land the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. However, due to brazen disregard for the limited powers given the federal government, Washington, Adams, and many more Presidents who are called "great" used their positions, by executive order and by alliances within the Congress and Supreme Court, to distort the meaning of our Constitution within decades of its ratification.

Jefferson is one of the few Presidents who could claim that he fought for the rights of free men, and not be lying.

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Re: Which president do you prefer?
« Reply #5 on: April 14, 2009, 03:47:26 pm »
 I voted for Obama, and I think he will do a good job

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Re: Which president do you prefer?
« Reply #6 on: April 14, 2009, 04:27:01 pm »
Ron Paul :)

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Re: Which president do you prefer?
« Reply #7 on: April 14, 2009, 04:52:37 pm »
agreed, RON PAUL !  :wave:

i'm registered democrat and i still loved ron paul.
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Re: Which president do you prefer?
« Reply #8 on: April 14, 2009, 05:05:52 pm »
i think that obama will do well and could change the economic problems that the countri facing now

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Re: Which president do you prefer?
« Reply #9 on: April 14, 2009, 05:13:48 pm »
agreed, RON PAUL !  :wave:

i'm registered democrat and i still loved ron paul.

QFFT! i voted RP aswell..he was the only solution...Obama is the Government's biggest puppet yet...He is goin to help them bring about the NWO.

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Re: Which president do you prefer?
« Reply #10 on: April 14, 2009, 11:18:27 pm »
agreed, RON PAUL !  :wave:

i'm registered democrat and i still loved ron paul.

QFFT! i voted RP aswell..he was the only solution...Obama is the Government's biggest puppet yet...He is goin to help them bring about the NWO.



that's what i'm afraid of too! NWO is scary, scary stuff  :o
and i have to agree with you that obama seems like the
perfect mascot to lure everyone in.

ron paul wanted the american people to know
how corrupt the government is, and that's exactly why
he didn't get very far. sigh...
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Re: Which president do you prefer?
« Reply #11 on: April 15, 2009, 09:10:08 am »
I voted for Obama.  I think he will do well, given time. :thumbsup:
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Re: Which president do you prefer?
« Reply #12 on: April 15, 2009, 07:49:38 pm »
Libertarians huh?  I would support that party if it would actually be a contender to the two power parties.  I am just independent.  My brother was a huge Ron Paul fan.  I would have voted for him, but I voted Obama instead.

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Re: Which president do you prefer?
« Reply #13 on: April 15, 2009, 07:52:43 pm »
I voted for Obama I think he will do well. We just need to give him time.

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Re: Which president do you prefer?
« Reply #14 on: April 15, 2009, 08:23:34 pm »
I think its like choosing between the lesser of two evils.... So to speak

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