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Re: Prayer {blinding} chain
« Reply #45 on: September 29, 2012, 06:35:13 pm »
If so, dealing with stupid religious adherents doesn't bode well.  Then again, they aren't becoming any wiser conversing with wiser non-believers so, it must be another platitude stolen from a wiser culture's beliefs.

He that is walking with wise persons will become wise,but he that is having dealings with the stupid ones will fare badly.

Prov 13:20
One can lead a horse to water however, if one holds the horse's head under, that horse will drown.

             

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Re: Prayer chain
« Reply #46 on: September 29, 2012, 06:35:38 pm »
The wise one fears and is turning away from badness,but the stupid is becoming furious and self-confident.

Prov 14:16

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Re: Prayer {blinding} chain
« Reply #47 on: September 29, 2012, 06:36:47 pm »
That almost accounts for yoru stupidity and false-confidence but, falls short because yours rests upon blind faith.

The wise one fears and is turning away from badness,but the stupid is becoming furious and self-confident.

Prov 14:16
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Re: Prayer chain
« Reply #48 on: September 29, 2012, 06:38:51 pm »
We all know Falcon has much time on his hand by how long he is on this forum....this proverb fits him well.

One isolating himself will seek his own selfish longing,against all practical wisdom he will break forth.

Prob 18:1

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Re: Prayer {requoting verses} chain
« Reply #49 on: September 29, 2012, 06:41:15 pm »
These repetitious "verses" are available elsewhere, (which is how they're able to be cut & pasted here), so why keep repeating them here unless for the purposes of 'slamming' others with offensive religious propagandizing proselytization?

Prob 18:1
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Re: Prayer {ball &} chain
« Reply #50 on: September 29, 2012, 06:41:18 pm »
im not a religious person but what is ur problem with pray and religion[?]...

The inquisitions, crusades, witch hunts, Ku Klux Klan, Jonestown, Moonies, catholic priesthood pedaphiles and 9/11 should be enough to cause most people to question "religions" and the "prayer", (magical intercessory rituals), that go along with them.  If not, what more do they need?

So what your saying is if i pray to god and go to church im a Klan member that molests children and is responsible for a mass suicide who master minded 9/11.

No, you asked what the problem was with religion and praying and I answered the question.  Your over-generalization is specious and ignorant.  Though the same religious beliefs underlie the inquisitions, crusades, witch hunts, KKK, the Jonestown suicides and catholic pedaphiles of course not all religious adherents partake of these atrocities.  The point is, they share teh same basic religious beliefs and those are what I oppose.

Well what about all the people that murder and molest and cause chaos and hate that don't pray or are not religious? It doesn't make any sense.

That's because you're drawing a false conclusion from an invalid parallel.  There's a difference between what people do and their religious beliefs.  There's no difference between the religious beliefs of those directly responsible for atrocities and those who believe in the same superstitions but, haven't yet commited atrocities.

We just might well give up on humanity. I'd hate to back it to you but faith and religion will be here till the end of time, and im surprised your offended for someone that likes to dish it out...You sure cant take it...........

On the contrary, many former supertitious beliefs are no longer influencing humanity, (such as 'thunder g-ds', volcano g-ddesses, harvest 'g-ds' requiring human sacrifices, etc.).  Eventually, such remaining superstitious ignorance will die out or, they're adherents will.  As for dishing it out and taking it; you haven't really been following either in depth or you'd have seen evidence to the contrary extending over a year's worth of posts.

Well i said my peace and said what a lot people have probably wanted to say......because you will always have a answer for everything, and then push your opinion and hide be hide calling someone ignorant or say their comment is ignorant.

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Re: Prayer chain
« Reply #51 on: September 29, 2012, 06:42:11 pm »
Anyone stupid finds no delight in discernment,except that his heart should uncover itself.

Prov 18:2

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Re: Prayer chain
« Reply #52 on: September 29, 2012, 06:45:09 pm »
It is the foolishness of an earthling man that distorts his way,and so his heart becomes enraged against Jehovah himself.

Prov 19:3

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Re: Prayer chain
« Reply #53 on: September 29, 2012, 06:47:47 pm »
The false witness will not be free from punishment,and he that launches forth lies will perish.

Prov 19:9

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Re: Prayer {ball &} chain
« Reply #54 on: September 29, 2012, 06:51:00 pm »
im not a religious person but what is ur problem with pray and religion[?]...

The inquisitions, crusades, witch hunts, Ku Klux Klan, Jonestown, Moonies, catholic priesthood pedaphiles and 9/11 should be enough to cause most people to question "religions" and the "prayer", (magical intercessory rituals), that go along with them.  If not, what more do they need?

So what your saying is if i pray to god and go to church im a Klan member that molests children and is responsible for a mass suicide who master minded 9/11.

No, you asked what the problem was with religion and praying and I answered the question.  Your over-generalization is specious and ignorant.  Though the same religious beliefs underlie the inquisitions, crusades, witch hunts, KKK, the Jonestown suicides and catholic pedaphiles of course not all religious adherents partake of these atrocities.  The point is, they share the same basic religious beliefs and those are what I oppose.

Well what about all the people that murder and molest and cause chaos and hate that don't pray or are not religious? It doesn't make any sense.

That's because you're drawing a false conclusion from an invalid parallel.  There's a difference between what people do and their religious beliefs.  There's no difference between the religious beliefs of those directly responsible for atrocities and those who believe in the same superstitions but, haven't yet commited atrocities.

We just might well give up on humanity. I'd hate to back it to you but faith and religion will be here till the end of time, and im surprised your offended for someone that likes to dish it out...You sure cant take it...........

On the contrary, many former supertitious beliefs are no longer influencing humanity, (such as 'thunder g-ds', volcano g-ddesses, harvest 'g-ds' requiring human sacrifices, etc.).  Eventually, such remaining superstitious ignorance will die out or, they're adherents will.  As for dishing it out and taking it; you haven't really been following either in depth or you'd have seen evidence to the contrary extending over a year's worth of posts.

Well i said my peace and said what a lot people have probably wanted to say......because you will always have a answer for everything, and then push your opinion and hide be hide calling someone ignorant or say their comment is ignorant.

Here's the difference which you are manifestly unable to discern; you gave an unsupported, (empty), "opinion" and I responded with a supported, (substantiated), 'opinion'.  Such isn't "hide be hide" describing empty opinions as ignorant when they are, by definition, (and as opposed to a substantianted one supported by facts/reasoning).  There's a subtle difference between ignorance and stupidity and you're attempting to blur it.
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Re: Prayer {ball &} chain
« Reply #55 on: September 29, 2012, 06:53:08 pm »
That includes a false "jehavoh's witness", bearing false witness, according to your own superstitions.

The false witness will not be free from punishment,and he that launches forth lies will perish.

Prov 19:9
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Re: Prayer chain
« Reply #56 on: September 29, 2012, 06:57:09 pm »
A man,even a stranger,is crooked in his way,but the pure one is upright in his activity.

Prov 21:8

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Re: Prayer chain
« Reply #57 on: September 29, 2012, 06:59:31 pm »
The eyes of jehovah himself have safeguarded knowledge,but he subverts the words of the treacherous ones.

Prov 22:12

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Re: Prayer chain
« Reply #58 on: September 29, 2012, 07:02:38 pm »
There is no wisdom,nor any discernment,nor any counsel in opposition to Jehovah.

Prov 21:30

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Re: Prayer {spamming proselytization} chain
« Reply #59 on: September 29, 2012, 07:03:18 pm »
Blindly reposting such repetitious "verses" is direct religious proselytization and propagandizing superstitious beliefs.

Prov 21:30
Prov 22:12
Prov 21:8
Prov 22:12
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