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Re: does god send you...
« Reply #90 on: August 09, 2012, 03:25:03 am »
Wait...wait...wait...here you go again...let's talk about resources...it is humorous to me that immediately the first thing you do is tell every Christian to back up their points, but do not use scripture.  That's great because you can indeed try to separate a Christian from his/her Bible, but the Word is always with them.  And that is to say that my resources are not limited, but as vast as...well, you know...

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« Reply #91 on: August 09, 2012, 03:34:20 am »
Wait...wait...wait...here you go again...let's talk about resources...it is humorous to me that immediately the first thing you do is tell every Christian to back up their points, but do not use scripture. 

That's because the "reference" is self-referential, ('the bible says so because the bible says so', etc.), that's circular, irrational, invlaid and not an evidentiary basis.  So, if all you've got is a faith-based belief in a belief-based faith, you've got no substantive evidence to back up your specious superstitious religious beliefs.
 
That's great because you can indeed try to separate a Christian from his/her Bible, but the Word is always with them.  And that is to say that my resources are not limited, but as vast as...well, you know...

If you weren't separate from your book of mythological deception, why do you fundie xtians keep reposting from that invalid 'biblical' source?  To keep reblinding your baseless faith-based belief?  Please avail yourself of the ignore button; if you don't know how to use it, ask another xtian fundie who does.
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« Reply #92 on: August 09, 2012, 03:39:24 am »
Oh, I would not do that...lol...that would not be very Christian of me, now would it?  But I also would never expect a ball player to step up to the plate without his bat.

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« Reply #93 on: August 09, 2012, 03:45:35 am »
Oh, I would not do that...lol...that would not be very Christian of me, now would it?  But I also would never expect a ball player to step up to the plate without his bat.

I wouldn't expect even a lousy "ball player" to forfeit everytime they come up to bat like a xtian who makes unsupported assertions and then expects to "walk" on base.
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« Reply #94 on: August 09, 2012, 04:03:18 am »
ok, have a nice day.

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« Reply #95 on: August 09, 2012, 04:05:17 am »
ok, have a nice day.

Same to you, (in the same sense).
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« Reply #96 on: August 09, 2012, 04:21:19 pm »
Hmmmmm, not sure, but gee, I think that post started out with...jedijohnny and jcribb.....so ok, other than that all I have to say at this point is ho hum, you bore me.  But, thanks.

This is a thread posted in the debate & discuss subforum of an FC discussion board; not some private xtian back-patting exclusive club.  Therefore, any member of FC who wants to reply to a post on can do so.  It's not surprising that a response containing more than monosyllables "bores" you so, you might want to take advantage of the ignore button to prevent over-taxing your limited mental resources.
Perhaps you could take your own advice.

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« Reply #97 on: August 09, 2012, 04:27:59 pm »
Hmmmmm, not sure, but gee, I think that post started out with...jedijohnny and jcribb.....so ok, other than that all I have to say at this point is ho hum, you bore me.  But, thanks.

This is a thread posted in the debate & discuss subforum of an FC discussion board; not some private xtian back-patting exclusive club.  Therefore, any member of FC who wants to reply to a post on can do so.  It's not surprising that a response containing more than monosyllables "bores" you so, you might want to take advantage of the ignore button to prevent over-taxing your limited mental resources.

Perhaps you could take your own advice.

I could ignore all of the superstitious proselytizing you fundies flood the forums with, sure.  Or, since I don't treat these forums as if they were an exclusive non-xtian country-club, I could continue to oppose those who keep treating these forums as if they were some kind of private xtian reservation where any dissent/opposing viewpoints are considered to be "bashing", (in a forlorn hope to silence opposition/dissent).  Guess which way it's going to go.
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« Reply #98 on: August 09, 2012, 04:46:36 pm »
Hmmmmm, not sure, but gee, I think that post started out with...jedijohnny and jcribb.....so ok, other than that all I have to say at this point is ho hum, you bore me.  But, thanks.

This is a thread posted in the debate & discuss subforum of an FC discussion board; not some private xtian back-patting exclusive club.  Therefore, any member of FC who wants to reply to a post on can do so.  It's not surprising that a response containing more than monosyllables "bores" you so, you might want to take advantage of the ignore button to prevent over-taxing your limited mental resources.

Perhaps you could take your own advice.

I could ignore all of the superstitious proselytizing you fundies flood the forums with, sure.  Or, since I don't treat these forums as if they were an exclusive non-xtian country-club, I could continue to oppose those who keep treating these forums as if they were some kind of private xtian reservation where any dissent/opposing viewpoints are considered to be "bashing", (in a forlorn hope to silence opposition/dissent).  Guess which way it's going to go.
Yes, you could ignore.  But you would be so "bored" and unhappy not to bash on the Christian's belief in God.  You have just admitted your sole purpose for bashing Christians on here.  You have, instead, been trying to "silence opposition/dissent" and instead form your own weird idea of a "Christian Bashing Club" in order to make them look foolish, stupid, ignorant, irrational, delusional, and I could go on and on with other words used against Christians in these forums. 

You go exercise your freedom to make up threads, while others, including Christians, do the same, with whatever topics so chosen.  They are allowed in here and no one, including the mean-spirited hater of Christians, will not have the right to hush them, scare them away, make them feel foolish.  You are showing your absolute intolerance towards Christians, and actually, it's none of your business if they choose to believe in God.  Oh sure, we already know you are going to say it's your business in an open forum, but actually, it's not.  People can discuss things about it, or around and about of it, but they don't have to "answer" to you, specifically, about something when they already know you will use it against them, or simply don't care for you to know any more than they want you to know.

You rarely discuss Biblical topics - once in awhile, yes; but mostly no, because you start bringing in your bashing, name calling, and intolerant remarks.  You enjoy suggesting others use the "ignore" button, but that furthers your cause of picking on others.  You could put certain people on "ignore" but then you wouldn't be able to pick on them for their beliefs.  You show extreme tolerance to the wiccan thread - maybe because you made it.  Yet, you don't seem to know what tolerance is when it comes to believers in God.  I'm not telling you what to do, but it goes without saying, that no one is forcing you to scan the board and deliberately go into Biblical threads.  That's all on you, and when you do what you do, then you shouldn't be surprised when people share their opposition of your hateful comments.   

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« Reply #99 on: August 09, 2012, 05:08:35 pm »
You have just admitted your sole purpose for bashing Christians on here.

No, ye-of-too-much-faith, I was referring to a few xtians' obvious intent to characterize opposing viewpoints as "bashing", (as you continue to substantiate every time you overuse the word).
 
You have, instead, been trying to "silence opposition/dissent" ...

It isn't possible to silence xtian proselytizing on these forums so your accusation is false.  Conversely, there is documented/archived evidence of you and a few other fundies repeatedly attempting to silence viewpoints opposing xtian ones by characterizing them variously as "rude",
'bashing", "disrespectful" and so on with the direct intent of censoring such.

... and instead form your own weird idea of a "Christian Bashing Club" ...

I've formed no such "club".  There were other non-xtians dissenting here before I arrived and others joined FC after I did.  These fabrications, (straight out lies), are unsupported by facts - your specious beliefs are not factual.

... in order to make them look foolish, stupid, ignorant, irrational, delusional, and I could go on and on with other words used against Christians in these forums. 

On the contrary, the xtians' own posted words regarding such religious nonsense are making themselves look "foolish, stupid, ignorant, irrational, delusional" without external assistance.  In replying to such unsupported declarations and empty assertions, the xtian's own words are quoted.

it's none of your business if they choose to believe in God.  Oh sure, we already know you are going to say it's your business in an open forum, but actually, it's not.  

There's no forum rule about xtian proselytization having an unopposed 'free ride' on FC.  You fundies chose to post such religious propaganda, others are choosing to post in opposition to it.  Which part of this eludes your understanding?
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« Reply #100 on: August 09, 2012, 06:38:10 pm »
You have just admitted your sole purpose for bashing Christians on here.

No, ye-of-too-much-faith, I was referring to a few xtians' obvious intent to characterize opposing viewpoints as "bashing", (as you continue to substantiate every time you overuse the word).
 
You have, instead, been trying to "silence opposition/dissent" ...

It isn't possible to silence xtian proselytizing on these forums so your accusation is false.  Conversely, there is documented/archived evidence of you and a few other fundies repeatedly attempting to silence viewpoints opposing xtian ones by characterizing them variously as "rude",
'bashing", "disrespectful" and so on with the direct intent of censoring such.

... and instead form your own weird idea of a "Christian Bashing Club" ...

I've formed no such "club".  There were other non-xtians dissenting here before I arrived and others joined FC after I did.  These fabrications, (straight out lies), are unsupported by facts - your specious beliefs are not factual.

... in order to make them look foolish, stupid, ignorant, irrational, delusional, and I could go on and on with other words used against Christians in these forums. 

On the contrary, the xtians' own posted words regarding such religious nonsense are making themselves look "foolish, stupid, ignorant, irrational, delusional" without external assistance.  In replying to such unsupported declarations and empty assertions, the xtian's own words are quoted.

it's none of your business if they choose to believe in God.  Oh sure, we already know you are going to say it's your business in an open forum, but actually, it's not.  

There's no forum rule about xtian proselytization having an unopposed 'free ride' on FC.  You fundies chose to post such religious propaganda, others are choosing to post in opposition to it.  Which part of this eludes your understanding?
YOU don't seem to understand that ALL KINDS OF TOPICS are allowed to be posted in this forum, which happens to include Biblical ones.  You don't have to like it, and you are welcome to opposing views, that is true.  You take it TOO FAR when you bash Christians, including mocking and belittling.  So others, in turn, are choosing to post in opposition to YOUR HATEFUL REMARKS, as well.  You don't like it?  Fine - you don't have to answer nor read them, do you.

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« Reply #101 on: August 09, 2012, 11:10:46 pm »
YOU don't seem to understand that ALL KINDS OF TOPICS are allowed to be posted in this forum, which happens to include Biblical ones. 

Since I've already stipulated that point, your contention regarding the intent you fabricated about non-xtians wanting to silence/prohibit xtian proselytizing posts remains untrue.

You don't have to like it, and you are welcome to opposing views, that is true.  You take it TOO FAR when you bash Christians, including mocking and belittling. 

Once again, you are not the arbitrator of what form opposing/dissenting viewpoints may take.  "Too far" under your inherently-biased perspective is not too far under a more objective outlook, (one not tainted by religious irrationality).  By using such biased terms as "mocking and belittling", you are implicitly attempting to use those characterizations to inhibit/silence opposing viewpoints.  While you are certainly 'free' to falsely describe dissenting points of view in such a biased manner, I'm as free to refute it as a tainted/biased/false characterization, ("bashing" xtians when instead, xtianity's belief system is being opposed).
 
Now, others could consider your constant religious proselytizing as "bashing" non-xtians and there is an element of truth to that.  Until now, I haven't leaned toward that characterization because I want to reiterate a central cognitive point; there's no rule concerning xtian declarations of empty religious opinions getting an unopposed 'free pass', (nor any rule concerning restricting/prohibiting such dissenting viewpoints which do not violate FC TOS).  We're both choosing to continue this seemingly-endless argument simply because you insist upon hiding behind your blind faith while reason contends out in the open.
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« Reply #102 on: August 10, 2012, 01:18:38 pm »
YOU don't seem to understand that ALL KINDS OF TOPICS are allowed to be posted in this forum, which happens to include Biblical ones. 

Since I've already stipulated that point, your contention regarding the intent you fabricated about non-xtians wanting to silence/prohibit xtian proselytizing posts remains untrue.

You don't have to like it, and you are welcome to opposing views, that is true.  You take it TOO FAR when you bash Christians, including mocking and belittling. 

Once again, you are not the arbitrator of what form opposing/dissenting viewpoints may take.  "Too far" under your inherently-biased perspective is not too far under a more objective outlook, (one not tainted by religious irrationality).  By using such biased terms as "mocking and belittling", you are implicitly attempting to use those characterizations to inhibit/silence opposing viewpoints.  While you are certainly 'free' to falsely describe dissenting points of view in such a biased manner, I'm as free to refute it as a tainted/biased/false characterization, ("bashing" xtians when instead, xtianity's belief system is being opposed).
 
Now, others could consider your constant religious proselytizing as "bashing" non-xtians and there is an element of truth to that.  Until now, I haven't leaned toward that characterization because I want to reiterate a central cognitive point; there's no rule concerning xtian declarations of empty religious opinions getting an unopposed 'free pass', (nor any rule concerning restricting/prohibiting such dissenting viewpoints which do not violate FC TOS).  We're both choosing to continue this seemingly-endless argument simply because you insist upon hiding behind your blind faith while reason contends out in the open.
No sir, it's ALSO because you will not let up on your mean-spirited quotes, cutting remarks, and certain pictures - you are basically cutting off any opportunity for debate because you are continually showing intolerance and respect of others who have beliefs you don't agree with.


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« Reply #103 on: August 10, 2012, 01:39:04 pm »
Now, others could consider your constant religious proselytizing as "bashing" non-xtians and there is an element of truth to that.  Until now, I haven't leaned toward that characterization because I want to reiterate a central cognitive point; there's no rule concerning xtian declarations of empty religious opinions getting an unopposed 'free pass', (nor any rule concerning restricting/prohibiting such dissenting viewpoints which do not violate FC TOS).  We're both choosing to continue this seemingly-endless argument simply because you insist upon hiding behind your blind faith while reason contends out in the open.

No sir, it's ALSO because you will not let up on your mean-spirited quotes, cutting remarks, and certain pictures - you are basically cutting off any opportunity for debate because you are continually showing intolerance and respect of others who have beliefs you don't agree with.

On the contrary, I've not only opposed superstitious blind faith, but also delineated the reasons why.  The religious adherents of blind faith have chosen not to debate these points and instead, simply bible-quote or rely on the same blind faith being contended.  That's not debate; that's xtian copping-out.  You keep characterizing opposition, (which is not required to be "politically-correct" just because you don't like it), variously as "mean-spirited", "bashing", "rude", "impolite", etc. - over and over again.  Go ahead and use such diversionary adjectives to avoid debate but, don't whine about others cutting off opportunities for debate when all you xtians want to do is make proselytizing empty declarations without opposition.

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« Reply #104 on: August 11, 2012, 07:23:45 pm »
Now, others could consider your constant religious proselytizing as "bashing" non-xtians and there is an element of truth to that.  Until now, I haven't leaned toward that characterization because I want to reiterate a central cognitive point; there's no rule concerning xtian declarations of empty religious opinions getting an unopposed 'free pass', (nor any rule concerning restricting/prohibiting such dissenting viewpoints which do not violate FC TOS).  We're both choosing to continue this seemingly-endless argument simply because you insist upon hiding behind your blind faith while reason contends out in the open.

No sir, it's ALSO because you will not let up on your mean-spirited quotes, cutting remarks, and certain pictures - you are basically cutting off any opportunity for debate because you are continually showing intolerance and respect of others who have beliefs you don't agree with.

On the contrary, I've not only opposed superstitious blind faith, but also delineated the reasons why.  The religious adherents of blind faith have chosen not to debate these points and instead, simply bible-quote or rely on the same blind faith being contended.  That's not debate; that's xtian copping-out.  You keep characterizing opposition, (which is not required to be "politically-correct" just because you don't like it), variously as "mean-spirited", "bashing", "rude", "impolite", etc. - over and over again.  Go ahead and use such diversionary adjectives to avoid debate but, don't whine about others cutting off opportunities for debate when all you xtians want to do is make proselytizing empty declarations without opposition.

"Faith does not give you the answers, it just stops you asking the questions."
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You are not accepting of any views that are Christian, and are against even Bible verses, quotes, and comments of uplifting inspiration being written and shared in here.  People do not have to shut up because you don't approve of what many say.  There is that little ignore button that you so enjoy reminding others of, but that you could certainly use yourself, if there are things you don't like.  This forum is not built around your likes and dislikes, nor is it around anyone else's.  It is for the enjoyment of everyone who chooses to post in here. 

If you want to be disagreeable and rude, or debatable, fine, but expect people to stand up for their choices and remind you that you have to choice to disbelieve.  If you want to debate, then do it in the right debate part of things, on topic, and adding depth to it.  All you do is totally disrespect and do not accept that people have their rights to their choices of religion or no religion.  Whatever they choose is none of your business, and though you think you are the right one in not accepting their choice, you are not, as far as their personal choice.  You don't have to accept or like their choice to believe in God.  But you do not have the right to try and make them look foolish and stupid, and call their beliefs the names you do.  You should mature yourself on acting like a grown-up in here towards people you don't agree with, instead of like a little petulant boy who can't get his bullying way.

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