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« Reply #45 on: August 07, 2012, 03:59:13 pm »
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And your atheist stance does not apply to us Christians, and trying to mock our beliefs, as you do, is insulting, biased, slanted, intolerant, prejudiced (one of your words), and as you said of our beliefs, yours are rejected outright, as well.  

I highly recommend you look in the mirror as your beliefs are intellectually insulting and intolerant (if this weren't true, no freethinker would post in these threads), your sources are normally biased and slanted, and your scriptures talk and teach prejudices (and worse) numerous times. Any 'insulting' Falcon9 has done to this belief system fits the word and can be explained easily, though religious arrogance will never be able to see them as anything else than insults.
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Re: does god send you...
« Reply #46 on: August 07, 2012, 04:42:39 pm »
And your atheist stance does not apply to us Christians, and trying to mock our beliefs, as you do, is insulting, biased, slanted, intolerant, prejudiced (one of your words), and as you said of our beliefs, yours are rejected outright, as well. 

No, it isn't an exclusively "atheistic" stance; it's a rational stance which is nominally available to any reasonable person.  Your misinterpretation of logical skepticism as "insulting, biased, slanted, intolerant, prejudiced" is mere gain-saying what I've said in an immature "I-know-you-are-but-what-am-I" response.  You can, (and have), rejected rational opposition to your irrationality and that's fine.  Embrace the baseless emptiness of blind faith if wished - even deny that it has no substantive basis - it doesn't negate the reasoning, it merely tries to sidestep it.
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Re: does god send you...
« Reply #47 on: August 07, 2012, 04:46:19 pm »
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And your atheist stance does not apply to us Christians, and trying to mock our beliefs, as you do, is insulting, biased, slanted, intolerant, prejudiced (one of your words), and as you said of our beliefs, yours are rejected outright, as well.  

I highly recommend you look in the mirror as your beliefs are intellectually insulting and intolerant (if this weren't true, no freethinker would post in these threads), your sources are normally biased and slanted, and your scriptures talk and teach prejudices (and worse) numerous times. Any 'insulting' Falcon9 has done to this belief system fits the word and can be explained easily, though religious arrogance will never be able to see them as anything else than insults.

Given the numerous previous examples of her inability, (and extreme reluctance), to apply skeptical reasoning to her superstitious religious beliefs, there is little likelihood of her doing so now.  This inability/reluctance isn't restricted to any particular religious adherent, however and appears to be a wide-spread aspect of faith-blindness.
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« Reply #48 on: August 07, 2012, 05:19:59 pm »
No one ever said that Christians did not have the ability to be free thinkers.  We just choose not to have the negative, trolling, down-putting thoughts that those heading nowhere in life spew venomously out.  And, to call Christians, intolerant and prejudiced is laughable considering the source, as your viperous tones have not just been aimed on these forums at Christians, but at anyone with any positive direction in life, hence my statement of your jealousy of a productive life with direction.  Is it your goal to attempt to get Christians to turn their backs on the Word?  As I have said, at least we have something to hold onto.  What is there for you to turn your back on?  Trust me...that cavernous pit will still be there waiting on you, but there is ONE AND ONLY ONE way to escape it.  And it has been told to you repeatedly. And, again, have a nice day, as I leave you to go do my searches for the day. 

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« Reply #49 on: August 07, 2012, 05:40:57 pm »
No one ever said that Christians did not have the ability to be free thinkers.  We just choose not to have the negative, trolling, down-putting thoughts that those heading nowhere in life spew venomously out.

Essentially, you are implicitly claiming that closed-minded blind faith constitutes "free thinking".  It does not since it excludes rationality and the application of reasoning to such superstitious religious beliefs being held by xtians.  Further, mischaracterizing skeptical challenges to those unsupported religious beliefs as "negative, trolling, down-putting thoughts that those heading nowhere in life spew venomously out" demostrates the opposite of rational/free thinking due to the inherent religious bias from which it stems.
 
And, to call Christians, intolerant and prejudiced is laughable considering the source, as your viperous tones have not just been aimed on these forums at Christians, but at anyone with any positive direction in life ...

What is the basis of your allegation that "viperous tones", (an inherently prejudical presumption), have been "aimed at anyone with any positive direction in life" and not just xtians, (a secondary assumption in that it assumes skeptical challenges to unsupported superstitious religious beliefs are "viperous" in the first place)?

... hence my statement of your jealousy of a productive life with direction.

Your 'conclusion' is irrational because it does not logically derive from your (invalid) premise.

Is it your goal to attempt to get Christians to turn their backs on the Word?

Some will 'awaken' from the mind-slumber of blind faith and some will not.  This will occur as a result of continued mind-blinded 'sleep' or, because the 'sleeper' engages their own conscious awareness and internal ability to reason, (not necessarily due to what religious adherents to irrarionality or, non-religious adherents to rationality may post).

As I have said, at least we have something to hold onto.  What is there for you to turn your back on?  Trust me...that cavernous pit will still be there waiting on you, but there is ONE AND ONLY ONE way to escape it.  And it has been told to you repeatedly. And, again, have a nice day, as I leave you to go do my searches for the day.  

Your santimonious self-righteousness is rejected as specious, superstitious nonsense.  Enjoy wallowing in that as you run superficial searches just for the search bonus.
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Re: does god send you...
« Reply #50 on: August 07, 2012, 06:02:10 pm »
I'm okay with that because when I "awaken" I will be in His Kingdom as promised. And, also, thank you for proving that you are not here to partake of the searches, offers, etc that we are here to do, but just to troll around and demoralize our forums.

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« Reply #51 on: August 07, 2012, 06:06:35 pm »
I'm okay with that because when I "awaken" I will be in His Kingdom as promised.

That's an unfounded religious belief, not an "awakening".

And, also, thank you for proving that you are not here to partake of the searches, offers, etc that we are here to do, but just to troll around and demoralize our forums.

No such thing was 'proven', it remains your unproven opinion.  I merely noted the instances, (twice so far), where you indicated you were supposedly done making invalid claims for the day and were moving on to making specious searches to obtain the bonus.  The remainder of your random accusations have no rational merit and stem simply from your religious bias.
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« Reply #52 on: August 07, 2012, 06:36:09 pm »
Ya know what, Falcon9?  Actually, I want to thank you.  You have proven something to me.  I now have a deeper realization of the depths of the relationship I have with Jesus.  I knew, of course, that it has always been with me, but I now know that relationship can endure any challenge and that is important to me, so again, thank you for bringing me to an even greater depth of KNOWLEDGE. 

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« Reply #53 on: August 07, 2012, 06:39:07 pm »
Ya know what, Falcon9?  Actually, I want to thank you.  You have proven something to me.  I now have a deeper realization of the depths of the relationship I have with Jesus.  I knew, of course, that it has always been with me, but I now know that relationship can endure any challenge and that is important to me, so again, thank you for bringing me to an even greater depth of KNOWLEDGE. 

That isn't a "depth of knowledge", it's a stubborn entrenchment of pre-existent blind faith.  Some would consider that an ego-defensive mechanism which kicks-in when a strongly-held empty belief gets successfully challenged and discerned as simply blind faith.
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Re: does god send you...
« Reply #54 on: August 07, 2012, 06:48:58 pm »
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No one ever said that Christians did not have the ability to be free thinkers.

If you believe the bible to be true, you cannot be a freethinker. If you admit it could be nothing more than ancient dribble, you have no faith in it. Therefore your statement here is cornered.

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We just choose not to have the negative, trolling, down-putting thoughts that those heading nowhere in life spew venomously out.

Then what's this Hell place your religion talks of? Also, you do exactly this in the rest of your post, hypocrite.

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And, to call Christians, intolerant and prejudiced is laughable considering the source, as your viperous tones have not just been aimed on these forums at Christians, but at anyone with any positive direction in life, hence my statement of your jealousy of a productive life with direction.

YOUR BIBLE MAKES INTOLERANT AND PREJUDICIAL STATEMENTS NUMEROUS TIMES. READ IT SOMETIME! And fyi- I have an extremely positive outlook on life right now. I'm doing fantastic. Your vague ad hom attacks are ridiculous and only shows you're a bad christian for trying such childish tactics. We are furthest from jealous of your beliefs-- we have no reason to believe in mythology or a malevolent god such as your own. We understand reality and are brave enough to accept our mortality and look at the universe as a positive mystery. We do not need to believe in mythology or defined deities in order to make ourselves feel better like individuals such as yourself.

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at least we have something to hold onto.  What is there for you to turn your back on?

The future of mankind. I want it to be great for people when I'm gone. That's one of the major points in life, right? Constant improvement.

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Trust me...that cavernous pit will still be there waiting on you, but there is ONE AND ONLY ONE way to escape it.  And it has been told to you repeatedly. And, again, have a nice day, as I leave you to go do my searches for the day.  

This translates to "Go to hell. Unless you repent and believe what I do! Have a nice day!"

Have a nice day yourself. I truly mean that though- no strings attached.
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Re: does god send you...
« Reply #55 on: August 07, 2012, 07:06:09 pm »
First...Falcon9, it truly was meant as an expression of gratitude.  But it was your ego-defensive mechanism that could not accept that just for what it was without always feeling the need for the challenge and the male-egotistical last word.     
And Falconeer2...yes, I do believe (whoops, know) that the future of mankind is in exactly hands like yours.  That, also, was foretold long ago.  It will be exactly the reason for His return.  I have do doubt of your statement whatsoever.  It is the entire topic of the book of the Revelation of Jesus to John.

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« Reply #56 on: August 07, 2012, 07:13:48 pm »
First...Falcon9, it truly was meant as an expression of gratitude.  But it was your ego-defensive mechanism that could not accept that just for what it was without always feeling the need for the challenge and the male-egotistical last word. 

No, it was a sanctimonious expression of self-righteous blind faith on your part and was responded to as such.
 
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Re: does god send you...
« Reply #57 on: August 07, 2012, 07:32:56 pm »
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And Falconeer2...yes, I do believe (whoops, know) that the future of mankind is in exactly hands like yours.  That, also, was foretold long ago.  It will be exactly the reason for His return.  I have do doubt of your statement whatsoever.  It is the entire topic of the book of the Revelation of Jesus to John.

1.) Post proof that you "know" this will happen. Biblical sources do not count as that would be circular reasoning and thus completely illogical. If you do not understand, then I'd suggest you walk away from this argument as you do not posess critical thinking skills.

2.) Armageddon? When the world gets destroyed by people like me who admit they want the world to become a better place? So no doubt you look forward to destruction and chaos of our world whereas I look forward to it evolving into a nicer place. Again, your hypocrisy astounds me considering you say you have a positive outlook on life and yet you hold such a psychopathic and ego-driven view of it. Face it- you want destruction just so you can say "I'm right!". It would seem you're bathing in your own arrogance and hatred rather than selflessness and love. How positively christian of you, hypocrite.
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Re: does god send you...
« Reply #58 on: August 07, 2012, 07:37:45 pm »
Destruction and chaos of YOUR world caused by YOUR choices.  We, on the other hand will be removed from it.

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« Reply #59 on: August 07, 2012, 07:39:20 pm »
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Destruction and chaos of YOUR world caused by YOUR choices.  We, on the other hand will be removed from it.

As I asked before-- proof plz. Avoid the circular reasoning with the biblical scripture.

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