What Is Your Evidence?

[alaric99x]

Well, there's absolutely no doubt in my mind that you understand that I'm making the same absolutely moronic assertions as many others have made.  Some coincidence happens, Oh schitt, it's magic, don't understand stastistics, must have been some kind of god or magic force that made it happen.  I just have trouble understanding how a people who consider themselves so advanced can be so gullible and stupid.  I've lived in Europe about half of my life, almost exactly, and they can be pretty stupid too over there, but they're not nearly as gullible about religion as they are over on this side of the pond.

[alaric99x]

Well, there's absolutely no doubt in my mind that you understand that I'm making the same absolutely moronic assertions as many others have made.  Some coincidence happens, Oh schitt, it's magic, don't understand stastistics, must have been some kind of god or magic force that made it happen.

Understood.  Although many different peoples used to attribute weather phenomenon or agricultural ups & downs to random supernatural influences, its still somewhat prevalent among religious adherents today. 

I just have trouble understanding how a people who consider themsevlve so advanced can be so gullible and stupid.  I've lived in Europe about half of my life, almost exactly, and they can be pretty stupid too over there, but they're not nearly as gullible about religion as they are over on this side of the pond.

British Traditional Wicca.  The runic magic of scandanavian countries and Germany. Drudism.  Times change - at least in some societies; then we have the judeo-xtians and muslims who are a few thousand years behind the times.

OK, muslims, let's not start on those, lots of fanatics there just like US christians, neither groups understand their annoying proselitization, and many of the muslims back it up with dramatic and explosive proselitization.  Since I got back to the US, more than half the people I've met as friends have tried to convert me to some kind of religion, I feel like I just landed in the year 1200.  Of course, in Europe we also had the Jehovah's witlesses, but it was easy to close the door on those bozos, almost nobody ran into them as "friends."  Over here in the US they talk about "freedom of religion" more than any place else on the planet (and I've been to a lot of countries) and then every illiterate idiot around here who barely understands ancient and biblical history makes himself a biblical scholar and tries to convert you to his views.

This is the problem, Americans don't understand "freedom of religion."  I don't follow your religion, so leave me alone with your religion, but, just like those fanatic muslims, they can't do that.  I don't run around and tell people to stop believing in their Jesus and all the Disneyland fantasies surrounding their religion.  You don't allow me my freedom of belief, like the Nazis and Communists, you have a higher truth and it's your imperative to convince me, or not convince me but to certainly convert me.   

[falcon9]

OK, muslims, let's not start on those, lots of fanatics there just like US christians, neither groups understand their annoying proselitization, and many of the muslims back it up with dramatic and explosive proselitization.  Since I got back to the US, more than half the people I've met as friends have tried to convert me to some kind of religion, I feel like I just landed in the year 1200.  Of course, in Europe we also had the Jehovah's witlesses, but it was easy to close the door on those bozos, almost nobody ran into them as "friends."  Over here in the US they talk about "freedom of religion" more than any place else on the planet (and I've been to a lot of countries) and then every illiterate idiot around here who barely understands ancient and biblical history makes himself a biblical scholar and tries to convert you to his views.

This is the problem, Americans don't understand "freedom of religion."  I don't follow your religion, so leave me alone with your religion, but, just like those fanatic muslims, they can't do that.  I don't run around and tell people to stop believing in their Jesus and all the Disneyland fantasies surrounding their religion.  You don't allow me my freedom of belief, like the Nazis and Communists, you have a higher truth and it's your imperative to convince me, or not convince me but to certainly convert me.   

Another 'problem' with such religious proselytization is a certain inability of the part of religious adherents doing so to realize that opposition to it occurs 'after' the initial proselytiation occurs, (which means that opposition isn't proselytizing).  Though xtian adherents have a long history of attempting to convert, (often by force), they're reduced to more illogical unreasoning approaches these days.

[jcribb16]

OK, muslims, let's not start on those, lots of fanatics there just like US christians, neither groups understand their annoying proselitization, and many of the muslims back it up with dramatic and explosive proselitization.  Since I got back to the US, more than half the people I've met as friends have tried to convert me to some kind of religion, I feel like I just landed in the year 1200.  Of course, in Europe we also had the Jehovah's witlesses, but it was easy to close the door on those bozos, almost nobody ran into them as "friends."  Over here in the US they talk about "freedom of religion" more than any place else on the planet (and I've been to a lot of countries) and then every illiterate idiot around here who barely understands ancient and biblical history makes himself a biblical scholar and tries to convert you to his views.

This is the problem, Americans don't understand "freedom of religion."  I don't follow your religion, so leave me alone with your religion, but, just like those fanatic muslims, they can't do that.  I don't run around and tell people to stop believing in their Jesus and all the Disneyland fantasies surrounding their religion.  You don't allow me my freedom of belief, like the Nazis and Communists, you have a higher truth and it's your imperative to convince me, or not convince me but to certainly convert me.   

Another 'problem' with such religious proselytization is a certain inability of the part of religious adherents doing so to realize that opposition to it occurs 'after' the initial proselytiation occurs, (which means that opposition isn't proselytizing).  Though xtian adherents have a long history of attempting to convert, (often by force), they're reduced to more illogical unreasoning approaches these days.

Wrong...

[falcon9]

OK, muslims, let's not start on those, lots of fanatics there just like US christians, neither groups understand their annoying proselitization, and many of the muslims back it up with dramatic and explosive proselitization.  Since I got back to the US, more than half the people I've met as friends have tried to convert me to some kind of religion, I feel like I just landed in the year 1200.  Of course, in Europe we also had the Jehovah's witlesses, but it was easy to close the door on those bozos, almost nobody ran into them as "friends."  Over here in the US they talk about "freedom of religion" more than any place else on the planet (and I've been to a lot of countries) and then every illiterate idiot around here who barely understands ancient and biblical history makes himself a biblical scholar and tries to convert you to his views.

This is the problem, Americans don't understand "freedom of religion."  I don't follow your religion, so leave me alone with your religion, but, just like those fanatic muslims, they can't do that.  I don't run around and tell people to stop believing in their Jesus and all the Disneyland fantasies surrounding their religion.  You don't allow me my freedom of belief, like the Nazis and Communists, you have a higher truth and it's your imperative to convince me, or not convince me but to certainly convert me.  

Another 'problem' with such religious proselytization is a certain inability of the part of religious adherents doing so to realize that opposition to it occurs 'after' the initial proselytiation occurs, (which means that opposition isn't proselytizing).  Though xtian adherents have a long history of attempting to convert, (often by force), they're reduced to more illogical unreasoning approaches these days.

Wrong...

Your unsupported empty opinion is duly noted, (and disregarded as specious).

[alaric99x]

Wrong.....  You say, perfect, you're helpng prove my point exactly, but I don't need to prove it to you because your posts show that you're already subjected to your own fantasies and delusions.  Anyway, "wrong" a very eloquent and clearly explained retort to my post.

[falcon9]

Wrong.....  You say, perfect, you're helpng prove my point exactly, but I don't need to prove it to you because your posts show that you'realready subjected to your own fantasies and delusions.  Anyway, "wrong" a very eloquent and clearly explained retort to my post.

That's fairly typical of the pseudo-rebuttals espoused by irrational xtians.

[alaric99x]

Wait a moment, my response wasn't to you, falcon, it was a response to that jcribb character.  Check out the posts once again, I'm the guy on your side and now we're both going to hear another shotgun retort from that tunnel-head again.

[falcon9]

Wait a moment, my response wasn't to you, falcon, it was a response to that jcribb character.  Check out the posts once again, I'm the guy on your side and now we're both going to hear another shotgun retort from that tunnel-head again.

Although you did quote who you were responding to, I caught that from the context and know you weren't referring to me, (you and I actually agree, which annoys the fundies who won't admit that it does).

[momoney555]

Well it sure doesn't take much to get the inmates riled up in protest, does it.  Apparently they didn't bother to pay attention to the subject of this thread.  They must have thought it said, "Another opportunity to display my blatant disdain for all things related to God.  If anyone has a great testimony to share, I would enjoy hearing them. Of course any believer would know that my evidence goes much, much deeper than getting money, duh!  Don't let the inmates scare you away.  Put them on ignore, As I have.  They need to hear the reality of a believers experience, whether they accept it or not.  And by the way God does give to unbelievers also, but money is probably all you receive..

[inkfection]

I think I'm a Christian with a strange outlook compared to most others. All I can say is this. There are a lot of physicists that think about and believe in dark matter, dark space, the Higgs-Boson, string theory, etc. Lots of ppl think they're full of it, etc. However, we find the Higgs-Boson and they're absolutely amazing for proving it. If God ever gets discovered with proof for the Atheists around the world, lots of ppl are going to freak out. You don't know it's impossible until it never happens. Never is a long time to wait.  Anywho, have a good day believers and freethinkers alike.

[Falconer02]

Well it sure doesn't take much to get the inmates riled up in protest, does it.  Apparently they didn't bother to pay attention to the subject of this thread.  They must have thought it said, "Another opportunity to display my blatant disdain for all things related to God.  If anyone has a great testimony to share, I would enjoy hearing them. Of course any believer would know that my evidence goes much, much deeper than getting money, duh!  Don't let the inmates scare you away.  Put them on ignore, As I have.  They need to hear the reality of a believers experience, whether they accept it or not.  And by the way God does give to unbelievers also, but money is probably all you receive..

So the majority of us show how your evidence is not actual evidence by definition and is extremely ethnocentric and naive, and in return you put us on ignore. This fits into "ignorance is bliss" category I suppose. You must remember this is Debate and Discuss. If you didn't want people coming in debating and discussing, you shouldn't have posted your thread here. You're speaking like a child here so do us all a favor and grow up next time you press "Post".

If God ever gets discovered with proof for the Atheists around the world, lots of ppl are going to freak out. You don't know it's impossible until it never happens. Never is a long time to wait.   Anywho, have a good day believers and freethinkers alike.

Thanks. And yeah, if any metaphysical entities are discovered in the future provided there are decent evidences of them, I'm all ears.

[momoney555]

Falconer2 you are absolutely correct.  I have mistakenly posted this subject on the wrong discussion board.  So I am moving it.

[falcon9]

Falconer2 you are absolutely correct.  I have mistakenly posted this subject on the wrong discussion board.  So I am moving it.

Moving it where?  There is no 'fundie sanctimonious proclamations which lack evidence' forum.

[falcon9]

Well it sure doesn't take much to get the inmates riled up in protest, does it. 

Your attempted insult refers more to you fundies who talk about "evidence" as if it were unsupported hearsay, (it's not).
 

Apparently they didn't bother to pay attention to the subject of this thread.  They must have thought it said, "Another opportunity to display my blatant disdain for all things related to God.  If anyone has a great testimony to share, I would enjoy hearing them.

The subject title asks the question, "What Is Your Evidence", not 'what is your unsupported religious opinion?'.  Again, "evidence" is something significantly more substantive than a faith-based belief. 

Put them on ignore, As I have.  They need to hear the reality of a believers experience ...

So, you post a thread which mislabels "evidence" as 'biased religious opinion based on faith without evidence'.  Then you put respondants on "ignore" when they oppose your irrationally-prejudiced proselytization.  Yep, you're a 'peach' alright.

"If you could reason with religious people, there would be no religious people."
-- Gregory House