What Is Your Evidence?

[falcon9]

[CS Lewis non-reasoning]

Btw, the CS Lewis quote is a great example of sophist non-reasoning in that it attempts to use pseudo-reasoning methods to discredit actual reasoning methods.  Pot. Kettle. Black. 

Such illogical non-reasoning does not and cannot refute actual reasoning; especially when espoused by a heavy narcotics user, (Lewis).

[queenofnines]

My Own Evidence:

Numerous times throughout my life, I have received money from very unexpected sources as an answer to prayer.  The miraculous thing about it was that the amount of money I received would turn out to be the exact amount (to the penny) to cover the need I had prayed about.  Throughout my life, this has also happened in response to prayer for better jobs, a house, a new car, a lost loved one returning home.  Of course I cant say that every situation I have prayed about turned out like I wanted it to.  The answer to some prayers has been "no", but I do know my prayers have all been heard and are still being  heard.

This "evidence" is very vague and does not pinpoint any specific example in detail. Our brains are wired to find patterns and connections even when none exist at all. You are seeing the world through god-colored glasses, where everyday events (like receiving a check) seem more fortunate than they really are.

[Falconer02]

This "evidence" is very vague and does not pinpoint any specific example in detail. Our brains are wired to find patterns and connections even when none exist at all. You are seeing the world through god-colored glasses, where everyday events (like receiving a check) seem more fortunate than they really are.

What's this? Common sense!? STOP SUPRESSING MY BELIEFS! STOP YOUR WAR ON RELIGION! WE NEED TO STOP THE NON-BELIEVERS BEFORE WE HAVE AN ATHEIST TOTALITARIAN GOV'T!

[falcon9]

My Own Evidence:

Numerous times throughout my life, I have received money from very unexpected sources as an answer to prayer.  The miraculous thing about it was that the amount of money I received would turn out to be the exact amount (to the penny) to cover the need I had prayed about.  Throughout my life, this has also happened in response to prayer for better jobs, a house, a new car, a lost loved one returning home.  Of course I cant say that every situation I have prayed about turned out like I wanted it to.  The answer to some prayers has been "no", but I do know my prayers have all been heard and are still being  heard.

This "evidence" is very vague and does not pinpoint any specific example in detail. Our brains are wired to find patterns and connections even when none exist at all. You are seeing the world through god-colored glasses, where everyday events (like receiving a check) seem more fortunate than they really are.

Such "evidence" isn't even evidence as it consists of fundamental attribution errors, (the inaccurate connection of effects with 'causes' which have no evidence of being 'causes' of those effects).  This type of cognitive misattribution occurs most often in those who rely upon blind faith, rather than an ability to reason, (which in turn suggests that a diminished ability to reason accounts for a reliance upon religious faith instead).

[egypt31]

Wow the question I have been waiting for, I in a rough time in my life saw an angel so beautiful, also so mad at me he paced two steps one way then two the other. He was made up it seemed of molecules of air like when it is hot outside and you see the molecules in the air moving, he was platinum in color and wore a gold breast plate he wore a black belt with a gold belt buckle, he had a sword hanging on the left side that had a gold handle his gown was also platinum in color, and his sandles were laced up his legs, I begged God to take me from this earth so I would never make those mistakes again, and all I heard was I'm showing you this son because I love you.  At this point I realized satan, lucifer, and the devil were all the same and started out as an angel, Deceit means trickery, and an angel is trying to trick the whole world.   
        C.S. Wells wrote the greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist. 
Choose for yourselves this day whom you will serve, but as for me and my house we will serve the Lord!

[falcon9]

Wow the question I have been waiting for, I in a rough time in my life saw an angel so beautiful, also so mad at me he paced two steps one way then two the other. He was made up it seemed of molecules of air like when it is hot outside and you see the molecules in the air moving, he was platinum in color and wore a gold breast plate he wore a black belt with a gold belt buckle, he had a sword hanging on the left side that had a gold handle his gown was also platinum in color, and his sandles were laced up his legs ...

Your dubious 'witness testimony' of an alleged supernatural encounter does not constitute evidence because it cannot be verified as accurate, (rather than some faith-based hallucination or, false 'testimony' submitted in order to proselytize your religious beliefs).

I begged God to take me from this earth so I would never make those mistakes again, and all I heard was I'm showing you this son because I love you.  At this point I realized satan, lucifer, and the devil were all the same and started out as an angel, Deceit means trickery, and an angel is trying to trick the whole world.   
        C.S. Wells wrote the greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist. 
Choose for yourselves this day whom you will serve, but as for me and my house we will serve the Lord!

Your entire post is simply blatant religious proselytizing, (with aspects of severe self-delusion and other mental instabilities).

"Religion is the most malevolent of all mind viruses."
-- Arthur C. Clarke

[alaric99x]

Wow the question I have been waiting for, I in a rough time in my life saw an angel so beautiful, also so mad at me he paced two steps one way then two the other. He was made up it seemed of molecules of air like when it is hot outside and you see the molecules in the air moving, he was platinum in color and wore a gold breast plate he wore a black belt with a gold belt buckle, he had a sword hanging on the left side that had a gold handle his gown was also platinum in color, and his sandles were laced up his legs, I begged God to take me from this earth so I would never make those mistakes again, and all I heard was I'm showing you this son because I love you.  At this point I realized satan, lucifer, and the devil were all the same and started out as an angel, Deceit means trickery, and an angel is trying to trick the whole world.   
        C.S. Wells wrote the greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist. 
Choose for yourselves this day whom you will serve, but as for me and my house we will serve the Lord!

Wow, wow indeed.  "Platinum in color," as you say.  I never knew there was such a color.  Is that kind of like silver, maybe not quite so shiny?  The sword should be hanging on the right side because your "satan" should be left-handed.

[falcon9]

Wow the question I have been waiting for, I in a rough time in my life saw an angel so beautiful, also so mad at me he paced two steps one way then two the other. He was made up it seemed of molecules of air like when it is hot outside and you see the molecules in the air moving, he was platinum in color ... and his gown was also platinum in color ...

Wow, wow indeed.  "Platinum in color," as you say.  I never knew there was such a color.  Is that kind of like silver, maybe not quite so shiny? 

Doubtless the fundie can explain how his hallucination can be "made up of" "platinum"-colored air molecules?  Unless he's referring to my non-angelic posting level on FC?
 

[alaric99x]

Yeah, that's actually the best part, "molecules of air like when it's hot outside and you can see the molecules.."  When was the last time you saw molecules?  My vision must be deficient because I never saw a molecule in my entire life, they're much too small to see.  I congratulate the poster for this charming and entertaining idiocy.  But don't let anybody confuse your image of molecular angels with any scientific facts.  It fits with my old saying, "the less you know, the more opinions you're allowed to have."

[falcon9]

Yeah, that's actually the best part, "molecules of air like when it's hot outside and and you can see the molecules.."  When was the last time you saw molecules?  My vision must be deficient because I never saw a molecule in my entire life, they're much too small to see.  I congratulate the poster for this charming and entertaining idiocy.  But don't let anybody confuse your image of molecular angels with any scientific facts.  It fits with my old saying, "the less you know, the more opinions you're allowed to have."

Apparently, atmospheric heat distortions aren't just mistakenly attributed to mirages anymore; they're being attributed to 'angelic U.F.O.s' too.
 

[alaric99x]

How many angels do you suppose there are out there, one for every living human?  Do the terrorists have angels watching over them, how does that work out?  Considering all the christians that have died over the centuries, I must have at least 100 angels watching over me, the idea makes me a little uncomfortable, but then I know, the angels all mean well.  What's the denomination of these angelic helpers, or are they nondenominational?  I mean catholicism has been around for much longer than other christian denominations, many more recent religions would, perhaps, have a shortage of angels, while catholics might have a surplus.  Assuming that I actually end up in heaven, is it going to become my job to float around here on this planet as an angel helping some moron who isn't yet dead, is that what they call eternal life in paradise?  

[falcon9]

How many angels do you suppose there are out there, one for every living human?

Going by actual evidence instead of unsupported belief; zero. 

Do the terrorists have angels watching over them, how does that work out?

Don't they generally believe that they get 72 virgin, ("angels")? 

Considering all the christians that have died over the centuries, I must have at least 100 angels watching over me, the idea makes me a little uncomfortable, but then I know, the angels all mean well.  What's the denomination of these angelic helpers, or are they nondenominational?  I mean catholicism has been around for much longer than other christian denominations, many more recent religions would, perhaps, have a shortage of angels, while catholics might have a surplus. 

Considering that all the "pagan" religions which preceded the latter judeo-xtian cultural thefts of such concepts as "angels", (supernatural egregores), were inherently non-denominational egregore constructs, the judeo-xtian plagiarists could keep stealing "angels" from pagans.

Assuming that I actually end up in heaven, is it going to become my job to float around here on this planet helping some moron who isn't yet dead, is that what they call eternal life in paradise? 

Obviously, the fundies haven't thought that out sufficiently.
 

[alaric99x]

At my age, 59 1/2, I think 72 virgins would be a little too much, 60 I'm sure I could handle without any problem, but it might take me a week, maybe even a few days longer.

[mpedersen]

Wow there are some mean people in this world. Do I believe in a "god"? No, but I don't bash those that do... in fact I really hope that when I die a gentelmen named St. Peter meets me at some pearly gates and says "No".  I will be relieved that my friends and familly didn't waste their lives on false hope. Again, I really do hope this happens.

[jcribb16]

Wow there are some mean people in this world. Do I believe in a "god"? No, but I don't bash those that do... in fact I really hope that when I die a gentelmen named St. Peter meets me at some pearly gates and says "No".  I will be relieved that my friends and familly didn't waste their lives on false hope. Again, I really do hope this happens.

Thank you for that.