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« Reply #45 on: August 04, 2012, 05:11:16 am »
God Thank You For Everything and Guide me for the right path everyday. :angel11:

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« Reply #46 on: August 04, 2012, 12:56:52 pm »
God Thank You For Everything and Guide me for the right path everyday. :angel11:

Such an attribution is a common error of religious adherents.  Why not "thank" invisible pink unicorns for various things since that would be an equivalent unsubstantiated belief?
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« Reply #47 on: August 04, 2012, 03:06:11 pm »
I don't mean any insults by this, but it is a little confusing to me.  Is it really a prayer when it isn't your own and you are just quoting the bible?  I would just think a prayer would be more original with more of a purpose.

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« Reply #48 on: August 04, 2012, 03:49:34 pm »
So you admit to cherry picking a specific definition that excludes the Hebrew usage of the word ... You are basically denying the Hebrew people ...

No, huckster of strawmen, I'm refuting the implied false claim that the hebrew plagiarism of "amon" occurred before the Aegyptian usage which preceded the hebrews and their language/dialects by hundreds of years.  Further, I'm rejecting your cherry-picked religiously-based redefinition of a word which the hebrews later 'appropriated' in an act of cultural theft.

No, you deliberately quoted a definition of a Theban god.  Then you stated you used a secular source instead of a Christian one (are Theban gods now considered secular?  Is the Hebrew language forbidden to secularism?) .  You obviously know the usage of 'amen' by Christians and yet you deny the very meaning of this usage in order to make some outlandish claim about the word.  You are deliberately suppressing knowledge out of prejudice/racism in order to try to present a ridiculous claim that has been repeatedly proven wrong.

I didn't give any cherry-picked religiously-based redefinition.  Here is where the full extent of your utterly obvious stupidity will be revealed.  Amen is derived from three Hebrew consonants: aleph (’), mem (m), and nun (n).  The Hebrew usage of the word comes from the combined meanings of these consonants and the sounding, just the same, comes from the combined vocalization of these consonants.  Your stupidity has guided you into thinking the Hebrew word is singular in nature with a meaning assigned to the word and that is wrong as it is a meaning derived from the combination of three consonants.  Are you now going to pursue your outlandishly stupid claim to suggest that the Hebrew language was built around the intentional disassembling of the phonetics of another word belonging to another culture only to use that sound of that word to mean something entirely different?  Are you going to make that crazy claim now?

You fool, Aegyptians are Egyptians and it is simply an archaic spelling of the word -- they are not a different people.

Actually, the distinction was made between 'modern'/coptic Egyptians and the 'ancient' Aegyptians to distinguish xtian egyptians from pagan egyptians.  

The utterly desperation you reveal with the above claim is so telling.  I bet you don't see just how obvious it comes through do you?  If you don't it is because you are blinded by your hatred and arrogance.

Oh wait, now you are saying Hebrews stole a word from Egyptians (who got it from an older culture) and changed the meaning and spelling/recognition of it.

Your claim that the (A)egyptians stole the word "amon" from the "ethiopians" is not substantiated by evidence.  Further, there is evidence that both what is now Sudan and Ethiopia partially formed what was Upper Egypt in pharoaic and earlier predynastic times.  Language stems from the dominant culture which was not some mythical "ethiopian" vague culture but, the (A)egyptian one which spread out from along the Nile.

Actually I said they got it from an older culture and most likely Ethiopians.  I believe Punt and Yam were already mentioned and it is known that the first Dynasty of Egypt had trade dealings with Punt and that they considered their place of origin to be the Land of Punt.  The oldest known Homo sapiens remains found come from Ethiopia and are dated to be 195,000 BP, and that isn't even considering Hominids such as "Lucy" and "Lucy's baby" dating to over 3.2 million years ago and also come from Ethiopia.  You may also want to understand why the Triad of Thebes is often called the Trinity of Ethiopia.
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« Reply #49 on: August 04, 2012, 04:16:30 pm »
No, you deliberately quoted a definition of a Theban god. 

Thebes was part of the Egyptian/Aegyptian Kingdoms, "Amon" was an Aeyptian neteru/'g-d'.

I didn't give any cherry-picked religiously-based redefinition.  Here is where the full extent of your utterly obvious stupidity will be revealed.  Amen is derived from three Hebrew consonants: aleph (’), mem (m), and nun (n).  The Hebrew usage of the word comes from the combined meanings of these consonants and the sounding ...

You did cherry-pick a religiously-based definition, (specifically, a hebrew one).  So that will be designated as lie#1, (just in this context though, since this is not your first posted lie).  "Amen/Amon/Amun" was an Aegyptian word for one of their neters/'g-ds' which signficantly preceded the hebrew plagiarism and alteration of that word.  When words are appropriated by those speaking another language, (in this instance, by hebrews who apparently were translating the egyptian word "Amon/Amen/Amun" into their hebrew-language version). 

The word "aloha" in the Hawaiian language means affection, peace, compassion and mercy. Since the middle of the 19th century, it also has come to be used as an English greeting to say goodbye and hello.  The Hawaiian usage preceded the English translation and alteration of meaning in exactly the same way that the preceding Egyptian word "Amon" was 'appropriated' and retranslated later by the hebrews into their language.

Your claim that the (A)egyptians stole the word "amon" from the "ethiopians" is not substantiated by evidence.  Further, there is evidence that both what is now Sudan and Ethiopia partially formed what was Upper Egypt in pharoaic and earlier predynastic times.  Language stems from the dominant culture which was not some mythical "ethiopian" vague culture but, the (A)egyptian one which spread out from along the Nile.

Actually I said they got it from an older culture and most likely Ethiopians.  I believe Punt and Yam were already mentioned and it is known that the first Dynasty of Egypt had trade dealings with Punt and that they considered their place of origin to be the Land of Punt. You may also want to understand why the Triad of Thebes is often called the Trinity of Ethiopia.

There is no extant evidence that the word originated with predynastic ethiopians or punts either prior to, or after Thebes became an Aeyptian nome. Amun (also spelled Amon, Ammon, Amoun, Amen, and rarely Imen) was the name of a deity, in Egyptian mythology, who gradually rose to become one of the most important deities in Ancient Egypt, before fading into obscurity. Amun's name is first recorded in Egyptian records as imn, meaning "The hidden (one)".
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« Reply #50 on: August 04, 2012, 05:00:26 pm »
No, you deliberately quoted a definition of a Theban god. 

Thebes was part of the Egyptian/Aegyptian Kingdoms, "Amon" was an Aeyptian neteru/'g-d'.

I didn't give any cherry-picked religiously-based redefinition.  Here is where the full extent of your utterly obvious stupidity will be revealed.  Amen is derived from three Hebrew consonants: aleph (’), mem (m), and nun (n).  The Hebrew usage of the word comes from the combined meanings of these consonants and the sounding ...

You did cherry-pick a religiously-based definition, (specifically, a hebrew one).  So that will be designated as lie#1, (just in this context though, since this is not your first posted lie).  "Amen/Amon/Amun" was an Aegyptian word for one of their neters/'g-ds' which signficantly preceded the hebrew plagiarism and alteration of that word.  When words are appropriated by those speaking another language, (in this instance, by hebrews who apparently were translating the egyptian word "Amon/Amen/Amun" into their hebrew-language version). 

The word "aloha" in the Hawaiian language means affection, peace, compassion and mercy. Since the middle of the 19th century, it also has come to be used as an English greeting to say goodbye and hello.  The Hawaiian usage preceded the English translation and alteration of meaning in exactly the same way that the preceding Egyptian word "Amon" was 'appropriated' and retranslated later by the hebrews into their language.

Your claim that the (A)egyptians stole the word "amon" from the "ethiopians" is not substantiated by evidence.  Further, there is evidence that both what is now Sudan and Ethiopia partially formed what was Upper Egypt in pharoaic and earlier predynastic times.  Language stems from the dominant culture which was not some mythical "ethiopian" vague culture but, the (A)egyptian one which spread out from along the Nile.

Actually I said they got it from an older culture and most likely Ethiopians.  I believe Punt and Yam were already mentioned and it is known that the first Dynasty of Egypt had trade dealings with Punt and that they considered their place of origin to be the Land of Punt. You may also want to understand why the Triad of Thebes is often called the Trinity of Ethiopia.

There is no extant evidence that the word originated with predynastic ethiopians or punts either prior to, or after Thebes became an Aeyptian nome. Amun (also spelled Amon, Ammon, Amoun, Amen, and rarely Imen) was the name of a deity, in Egyptian mythology, who gradually rose to become one of the most important deities in Ancient Egypt, before fading into obscurity. Amun's name is first recorded in Egyptian records as imn, meaning "The hidden (one)".


I just love all of you athiests, agnostics, theologians, educated minds. Y'all are in need of DAILY PRAYER  :angel11: Jesus and God loves you all  :heart:
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« Reply #51 on: August 06, 2012, 01:00:53 pm »
No, you deliberately quoted a definition of a Theban god. 

Thebes was part of the Egyptian/Aegyptian Kingdoms, "Amon" was an Aeyptian neteru/'g-d'.

Just how far into your denial are you?  You stipulated sourcing a 'secular' reference to avoid the religion of Christianity and what did you give us?   You gave us a definition for an 'Egyptian' god.  This is an example of the lengths you will go into your desperate obsession to assault any believers in Christianity.  I would think that even a blind man would sense when he was poking himself in the eye, but apparently you cannot even detect that action of yourself.  I have seen some people heavily blinded by bias/hate/prejudice/racism before, but you take it to an entirely new level.

I didn't give any cherry-picked religiously-based redefinition.  Here is where the full extent of your utterly obvious stupidity will be revealed.  Amen is derived from three Hebrew consonants: aleph (’), mem (m), and nun (n).  The Hebrew usage of the word comes from the combined meanings of these consonants and the sounding ...

You did cherry-pick a religiously-based definition, (specifically, a hebrew one).  So that will be designated as lie#1, (just in this context though, since this is not your first posted lie).  "Amen/Amon/Amun" was an Aegyptian word for one of their neters/'g-ds' which signficantly preceded the hebrew plagiarism and alteration of that word.  When words are appropriated by those speaking another language, (in this instance, by hebrews who apparently were translating the egyptian word "Amon/Amen/Amun" into their hebrew-language version). 

The word "aloha" in the Hawaiian language means affection, peace, compassion and mercy. Since the middle of the 19th century, it also has come to be used as an English greeting to say goodbye and hello.  The Hawaiian usage preceded the English translation and alteration of meaning in exactly the same way that the preceding Egyptian word "Amon" was 'appropriated' and retranslated later by the hebrews into their language.

If you claim is true then you should be able to show proof of this (I will give you a hint though, you cannot do this because I never gave any such definition).  You have never ever found me in a lie and you most likely will not as unlike you it is not in my character to do such.  You, though, have been proven repeatedly to be a liar and are so blinded in your prejudice beliefs that you seem incapable of realizing your repeated pattern of lies even when your own words are shown directly indicating them.

Your claims are so foolishly laughable.  You are honestly suggesting that the Hebrews appropriated a 'sound' and then broke that sound up into consonants and assigned meanings to those consonants so that when assembled they had an entirely different meaning.  You realize those consonants are not isolated to that one Hebrew word?  Your claims are insanely outlandish and they only reveal your desperation to try and insult the Hebrew people (although it was initially your aim to insult Christians but your prejudice became your stumbling block once again).  What is amazing is that this claim has been repeatedly refuted by etymologists when theosophists make the same unsupported claim that you have (so are you suddenly a theosophist?).  Do you realize that you have basically proposed that every combination of sounds that are similar to another must mean that one of them appropriated it from the other and that such implications when carried to their earliest origins would suggest that the original sound could have never occurred and thus we have a paradox?  You are like a chess player who cannot even manage to think one move ahead, must less five.

Aloha?  Do you seriously even think that is a similar comparison?  Show me the reconstruction of the word from its syllables in English where its meaning is derived from the syllables?  Once again it is something you cannot do as you made a comparison based on your weak understanding.  It is as if a word to you is nothing more than a specific sound and that its meaning is assigned to the sound and never a collection of the individual sounds or syllables or parts of the word.  I will clarify what I am saying.  It is as if you treat the words 'known' and 'unknown' as distinctly different and that you store internal definitions of them within your brain and that you could never derive the meaning of 'unknown' from the morphemes of 'un' and 'known'.  The root morpheme is 'known' and 'un' is a bound morpheme which means 'not'.  From your diatribe on the word 'amen' and then comparison of the interpretation variation of 'aloha' it basically implies that you are unaware of the significance or existence of morphemes.  Perhaps this is connected in some way to your dyslexia and maybe you would want to pursue an investigation into that.

Your claim that the (A)egyptians stole the word "amon" from the "ethiopians" is not substantiated by evidence.  Further, there is evidence that both what is now Sudan and Ethiopia partially formed what was Upper Egypt in pharoaic and earlier predynastic times.  Language stems from the dominant culture which was not some mythical "ethiopian" vague culture but, the (A)egyptian one which spread out from along the Nile.

Actually I said they got it from an older culture and most likely Ethiopians.  I believe Punt and Yam were already mentioned and it is known that the first Dynasty of Egypt had trade dealings with Punt and that they considered their place of origin to be the Land of Punt. You may also want to understand why the Triad of Thebes is often called the Trinity of Ethiopia.

There is no extant evidence that the word originated with predynastic ethiopians or punts either prior to, or after Thebes became an Aeyptian nome. Amun (also spelled Amon, Ammon, Amoun, Amen, and rarely Imen) was the name of a deity, in Egyptian mythology, who gradually rose to become one of the most important deities in Ancient Egypt, before fading into obscurity. Amun's name is first recorded in Egyptian records as imn, meaning "The hidden (one)".


But there is evidence, such as the triads absence from the "Book of the Dead" and how Ra was morphed into Amun-Ra and let us not forget the geography of the prevalence of Amun.
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Re: DAILY PRAYER
« Reply #52 on: August 06, 2012, 01:21:00 pm »
God Thank You For Everything and Guide me for the right path everyday. :angel11:

Such an attribution is a common error of religious adherents.  Why not "thank" invisible pink unicorns for various things since that would be an equivalent unsubstantiated belief?
I wasn't going to respond but changed my mind.  Do you honestly believe that your 2nd sentence is a dissenting and adult opinion?  Or do you agree that it is of a sarcastic nature in response to the other poster?  I could see you dissenting with sentence 1, since that is pretty much your style.  But sentence 2 is of the sarcastic and disrespect nature that I've mentioned before about.

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« Reply #53 on: August 06, 2012, 03:02:13 pm »
God Thank You For Everything and Guide me for the right path everyday. :angel11:

Such an attribution is a common error of religious adherents.  Why not "thank" invisible pink unicorns for various things since that would be an equivalent unsubstantiated belief?

I wasn't going to respond but changed my mind.  Do you honestly believe that your 2nd sentence is a dissenting and adult opinion?  Or do you agree that it is of a sarcastic nature in response to the other poster?  I could see you dissenting with sentence 1, since that is pretty much your style.  But sentence 2 is of the sarcastic and disrespect nature that I've mentioned before about.

The second sentence is not only sarcastic but, is also a metaphorical parallel which shows that anything can be inaccurately attributed to a supernatural/mythical/nonexistent source.
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« Reply #54 on: August 06, 2012, 07:10:42 pm »
You are honestly suggesting that the Hebrews appropriated a 'sound' ...

No, you are dishonestly suggesting that in your usual manner of putting up strawmen to attack.  Conversely, I suggested that the hebrews translated an Egyptian word, ("Amon"), which preceded the translation, (into "Amen", also an alternate spelling of the vowel-less Aegyptian language of the time).

Aloha?  Do you seriously even think that is a similar comparison?  Show me the reconstruction of the word from its syllables in English where its meaning is derived from the syllables? 

"Aloha" is a Hawaiian word, derived from the Proto-Polynesian root "qalofa". It has cognates in other Polynesian languages, such as Samoan alofa and Māori aroha, also meaning "love." As one can see, (unless mind-blinded by religious cognitive dissonance), the word has slightly different meanings in different languages.  By the early 19th century, aloha was used as an English salutation, (either "hello" or "goodbye"), rather than the strictly Hawaiian/polynesian usages.  "Amen" had been transliterated into hebrew from the previous Egyptian language usage, which means that the hebrews stole the word from the Egyptians and altered its usage, (transliterated), which was later adopted by the xtian cult which derived from the judiac religion, (making the xtians subsequently responsible for "fencing" stolen cultural terms).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transliteration
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« Reply #55 on: August 06, 2012, 09:15:32 pm »
God pleas bless God and God please bless Jesus, God bless mom, and bless dad, and bless brothers!!!
  This is to my little friend, Cloey who's mother just lost her to DHS!!!
     GOD please watch over Cloey she needs you in her life guide her through each step in her life and give her a place to exist in your love, Help her mother learn a lesson and get her stuff together and watch over the boys Domonic, Joey and Parker they need you as their guides and helpers as well.

 Oh yeah the first prayer is a prayer Cloey used to pray isn't it adorable how some kids Pray for God and Jesus before even their family, I have seen it more than once and wished all people loved God that much!!!!! :thumbsup: :heart: :'(
Please help me pray for these children that are going through a hard part of their lives right now thank you and may God bless all you Children as well!!!

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« Reply #56 on: August 06, 2012, 11:22:22 pm »
... isn't it adorable how some kids Pray for God and Jesus before even their family ...

No, mindless religious brain-washing isn't "adorable"; it insidiously indoctrinates hapless children into faith-blindness.

"The family that prays together...is brainwashing their children."
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« Reply #57 on: August 07, 2012, 12:34:27 am »
You are honestly suggesting that the Hebrews appropriated a 'sound' ...

No, you are dishonestly suggesting that in your usual manner of putting up strawmen to attack.  Conversely, I suggested that the hebrews translated an Egyptian word, ("Amon"), which preceded the translation, (into "Amen", also an alternate spelling of the vowel-less Aegyptian language of the time).

Well, if they translated a word then it would have the same meaning wouldn't it.  It doesn't have the same meaning though.  The meaning of the word is derived from the consonants of the Hebrew language.  Accordingly, there is no way your claim above could ever make any sense.  I suppose it makes no difference if you choose to look ignorant over insane though (do realize that you display generous portions of both of those traits so you shouldn't concern yourself too much about highlighting one over the other).

Aloha?  Do you seriously even think that is a similar comparison?  Show me the reconstruction of the word from its syllables in English where its meaning is derived from the syllables? 

"Aloha" is a Hawaiian word, derived from the Proto-Polynesian root "qalofa". It has cognates in other Polynesian languages, such as Samoan alofa and Māori aroha, also meaning "love." As one can see, (unless mind-blinded by religious cognitive dissonance), the word has slightly different meanings in different languages.  By the early 19th century, aloha was used as an English salutation, (either "hello" or "goodbye"), rather than the strictly Hawaiian/polynesian usages.  "Amen" had been transliterated into hebrew from the previous Egyptian language usage, which means that the hebrews stole the word from the Egyptians and altered its usage, (transliterated), which was later adopted by the xtian cult which derived from the judiac religion, (making the xtians subsequently responsible for "fencing" stolen cultural terms).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transliteration

Read my question and try again to answer it: "Show me the reconstruction of the word from its syllables in English where its meaning is derived from the syllables?".  If you cannot manage this then your claim false flat and has no similarity to your insane/ignorant claim about it being like amen.  You are surely aware, as I pointed out earlier, that entomologists have routinely dismissed the claim you are making are you not?   
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« Reply #58 on: August 07, 2012, 12:40:23 am »
Well, if they translated a word then it would have the same meaning wouldn't it.  It doesn't have the same meaning though. 

No, there are several similar words, in several different languages, which don't translate into precisely the same meanings, (especially when some ignorant hebrews transliterated an Egyptian word they only dimly understood, just as you only dimly understand that distinction).

 
 
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« Reply #59 on: August 07, 2012, 04:53:55 am »
Wow; what great prayers!
I don't have one I say each day; I try and mix it up a bit and say something new each day. I do have an app on my phone that is "daily prayers"!!! :angel11:

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