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« Reply #15 on: July 31, 2012, 04:28:33 pm »
every night i try to say my prayers for a good nights sleep :angel11:

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« Reply #16 on: July 31, 2012, 04:34:18 pm »
i would like it if someone prayed for me it appears as if im going to be a single mom but i know i wont be a single mom cause i have god:D i need help finding work and making sure i still have the motivation to continue seeking god. prayer helps and heals .  :thumbsup:

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« Reply #17 on: July 31, 2012, 04:58:11 pm »
This is my prayer, that your love may overflow more and more with knowledge and full insight.—Philippians 1:9
The way the world is today. we all need prayer!

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« Reply #18 on: July 31, 2012, 05:19:41 pm »
all I have to say about this is AMEN

"Amen" is a xitian plagiarism of the Aegyptian, (pagan), religion's 'Amon'.  Every time a xtian misuses "amen", they are invoking Amon - a pagan neteru/deity.  The inherent irony in that is sublime.

Actually....the usage of Amen, which means "so be it", as found in the early scriptures of the Bible is said to be of Hebrew origin; however, the basic triconsonantal root from which the word was derived is common to a number of Semitic Languages such as Aramaic and Arabic.

Actually, "amen" derives from the root Aegyptian word, "amon" which preceded the hebrew/aramiac usage by a significant number of years.  This serves as evidence of early 'appropriation'/plagiarism/cultural theft by others, (as well as evidence of the dishonesty of those religious thieves).

The word was imported into the Greek of the early Church from Judaism.  From Greek, amen entered the other Western languages. According to a standard dictionary etymology, amen passed from Greek into Late Latin, and thence into English.
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« Reply #19 on: July 31, 2012, 05:28:12 pm »
This is my prayer, that your love may overflow more and more with knowledge and full insight.—Philippians 1:9

      
The way the world is today. we all need prayer!

'Prayer' remains an unviably-poor substitute for viable action.
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« Reply #20 on: July 31, 2012, 05:59:02 pm »
"The people are asking for spiritual help, for consolation. They are so afraid, discouraged, in despair, so many commit suicide. That's why we must concentrate on being God's love, God's presence-not by words, but by service, concrete love, listening."

 

Blessed Mother Teresa

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« Reply #21 on: July 31, 2012, 06:05:29 pm »
Actually, "amen" derives from the root Aegyptian word, "amon" which preceded the hebrew/aramiac usage by a significant number of years.  This serves as evidence of early 'appropriation'/plagiarism/cultural theft by others, (as well as evidence of the dishonesty of those religious thieves).

"Amen used in Christian worship comes not from Egyptian, but from Hebrew. It is derived from three Hebrew consonants: aleph (’), mem (m), and nun (n). The basic idea of the root mn is firmness or certainty. Mn denotes something that is sure and unchanging. From it comes the verb aman which means to make something sure or established. Amen is the adverb form with the same meaning. Sometimes it is translated verily or surely in the Bible. Often this word is not translated but simply transliterated in the Greek. This means that the meaning is not given, but the letters are simply changed from Hebrew into Greek characters."

I don't know where you could imagine it to come from "amon" which is actually from the name Amon-Ra.
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« Reply #22 on: July 31, 2012, 06:28:54 pm »
Actually, "amen" derives from the root Aegyptian word, "amon" which preceded the hebrew/aramiac usage by a significant number of years.  This serves as evidence of early 'appropriation'/plagiarism/cultural theft by others, (as well as evidence of the dishonesty of those religious thieves).

"Amen used in Christian worship comes not from Egyptian, but from Hebrew.

Again, the root word, "amon", was an Aegyptian word for an Aegyptian neteru - not a latter hebrew derivation, ("amen").

I don't know where you could imagine it to come from "amon" which is actually from the name Amon-Ra.

There is no need to "imagine" historical records.  The ancient Egyptians would often use double or triple neteru, (g-d/desses to you xtian cultists).  Amon-Ra being a combination of the neters characteristics of "Ra" and "Amon" which were later separated into "Amon" and "Ra".  Even later, the hebrews wandered through as migrant laborers and ripped-off the word, converting it to "amen", (the Aegytians didn't use vowels), and altering the meaning, (cultural theft).
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« Reply #23 on: August 01, 2012, 05:03:57 pm »
Actually, "amen" derives from the root Aegyptian word, "amon" which preceded the hebrew/aramiac usage by a significant number of years.  This serves as evidence of early 'appropriation'/plagiarism/cultural theft by others, (as well as evidence of the dishonesty of those religious thieves).

"Amen used in Christian worship comes not from Egyptian, but from Hebrew.

Again, the root word, "amon", was an Aegyptian word for an Aegyptian neteru - not a latter hebrew derivation, ("amen").

I don't know where you could imagine it to come from "amon" which is actually from the name Amon-Ra.

There is no need to "imagine" historical records.  The ancient Egyptians would often use double or triple neteru, (g-d/desses to you xtian cultists).  Amon-Ra being a combination of the neters characteristics of "Ra" and "Amon" which were later separated into "Amon" and "Ra".  Even later, the hebrews wandered through as migrant laborers and ripped-off the word, converting it to "amen", (the Aegytians didn't use vowels), and altering the meaning, (cultural theft).

Once again you show your ignorance in your typical fashion.  Amen has nothing to do with amon.  Amon is not a root word of Amen.  If you understood even the basics of etymology or Hebrew you would readily know this and be aware of just how stupid you come off attempting to make this false and foolish claim of yours.  It is derived from three Hebrew consonants: aleph (’), mem (m), and nun (n), with the root being 'mn'.  Next time why don't you educate yourself before preceding to talk out of the side of your neck.
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« Reply #24 on: August 01, 2012, 05:15:57 pm »
Actually, "amen" derives from the root Aegyptian word, "amon" which preceded the hebrew/aramiac usage by a significant number of years.  This serves as evidence of early 'appropriation'/plagiarism/cultural theft by others, (as well as evidence of the dishonesty of those religious thieves).

"Amen used in Christian worship comes not from Egyptian, but from Hebrew.

Again, the root word, "amon", was an Aegyptian word for an Aegyptian neteru - not a latter hebrew derivation, ("amen").

I don't know where you could imagine it to come from "amon" which is actually from the name Amon-Ra.

There is no need to "imagine" historical records.  The ancient Egyptians would often use double or triple neteru, (g-d/desses to you xtian cultists).  Amon-Ra being a combination of the neters characteristics of "Ra" and "Amon" which were later separated into "Amon" and "Ra".  Even later, the hebrews wandered through as migrant laborers and ripped-off the word, converting it to "amen", (the Aegytians didn't use vowels), and altering the meaning, (cultural theft).

Once again you show your ignorance in your typical fashion.  Amen has nothing to do with amon.  Amon is not a root word of Amen. 

Your own ignorance is not my problem.  Simply claiming that "amen has nothing to do with amon" does not make it so.  The word "Amon", (representing a Agyptian neteru/deity), was in use centuries before some faith-blinded hebrew migrant laborers wandered through lower Egypt.  Sequentially, it the word predated that latter derivation of "amen".
 
If you understood even the basics of etymology or Hebrew you would readily know this and be aware of just how stupid you come off attempting to make this false and foolish claim of yours.  It is derived from three Hebrew consonants: aleph (’), mem (m), and nun (n), with the root being 'mn'.  Next time why don't you educate yourself before preceding to talk out of the side of your neck.

Doubtless a religiously-biased post hoc etymological 'explanation' suits your established pattern of redefining concepts to suit your faith-based agenda however, you're a moron if you believe that "amen" was in use in the hebew/aramaic tongues before the Aegyptian usage of Amon.
To reiterate this simple point; the hebrews stole the word off of the Aegytians, (who did not use vowels, hence "a`mn" was variously rendered as "amon", "amen", "amin", "amun").  Post hoc etymological claims from hebrew theological sources are inherently biased.
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« Reply #25 on: August 01, 2012, 05:43:08 pm »
This is my prayer—Philippians 1:9

"The hands that help are better far than lips that pray."
-- Robert Green Ingersoll
A closed mouth can't get fed

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« Reply #26 on: August 01, 2012, 05:46:22 pm »
This is my prayer—Philippians 1:9

"The hands that help are better far than lips that pray."
-- Robert Green Ingersoll


A closed mouth can't get fed

Incorrect; although there is no IV access available for a mind closed/blinded by faith.
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« Reply #27 on: August 01, 2012, 06:09:11 pm »
Actually, "amen" derives from the root Aegyptian word, "amon" which preceded the hebrew/aramiac usage by a significant number of years.  This serves as evidence of early 'appropriation'/plagiarism/cultural theft by others, (as well as evidence of the dishonesty of those religious thieves).

"Amen used in Christian worship comes not from Egyptian, but from Hebrew.

Again, the root word, "amon", was an Aegyptian word for an Aegyptian neteru - not a latter hebrew derivation, ("amen").

I don't know where you could imagine it to come from "amon" which is actually from the name Amon-Ra.

There is no need to "imagine" historical records.  The ancient Egyptians would often use double or triple neteru, (g-d/desses to you xtian cultists).  Amon-Ra being a combination of the neters characteristics of "Ra" and "Amon" which were later separated into "Amon" and "Ra".  Even later, the hebrews wandered through as migrant laborers and ripped-off the word, converting it to "amen", (the Aegytians didn't use vowels), and altering the meaning, (cultural theft).

Once again you show your ignorance in your typical fashion.  Amen has nothing to do with amon.  Amon is not a root word of Amen. 

Your own ignorance is not my problem.  Simply claiming that "amen has nothing to do with amon" does not make it so.  The word "Amon", (representing a Agyptian neteru/deity), was in use centuries before some faith-blinded hebrew migrant laborers wandered through lower Egypt.  Sequentially, it the word predated that latter derivation of "amen".
 
If you understood even the basics of etymology or Hebrew you would readily know this and be aware of just how stupid you come off attempting to make this false and foolish claim of yours.  It is derived from three Hebrew consonants: aleph (’), mem (m), and nun (n), with the root being 'mn'.  Next time why don't you educate yourself before preceding to talk out of the side of your neck.

Doubtless a religiously-biased post hoc etymological 'explanation' suits your established pattern of redefining concepts to suit your faith-based agenda however, you're a moron if you believe that "amen" was in use in the hebew/aramaic tongues before the Aegyptian usage of Amon.
To reiterate this simple point; the hebrews stole the word off of the Aegytians, (who did not use vowels, hence "a`mn" was variously rendered as "amon", "amen", "amin", "amun").  Post hoc etymological claims from hebrew theological sources are inherently biased.

And you are retarded to present your fallacious implication that I somehow claim that amen was in use before amon -- you certainly display even less than the remedial abilities necessary to delve into this simple subject matter so I suppose you are indeed.  Show me where I made this claim.

You are relying on simple modern day dialect pronunciations of older words as your source of reference (dare to compare the ancient spellings eh?).  With the meanings being entirely different you still display the idiotic insanity to propose your claim with nothing more than your hatred and ignorance to back it up.  Why did you stop with Amon being Aegyptian?  Why didn't you go back to it's older African origins since your are presenting it etymologically?  I know why, it is because of this typical moronic half step hatred that only propels you so far but lacks any substance or depth or clarity of reason.
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« Reply #28 on: August 01, 2012, 06:17:48 pm »
You are relying on simple modern day dialect pronunciations of older words as your source of reference (dare to compare the ancient spellings eh?). 

"World English Dictionary -
 
Amen , Amon or Amūn  (ˈɑːmən) — n:

Egyptian myth - a local Theban god, having a ram's head and symbolizing life and fertility, identified by the Egyptians with the national deity Amen-Ra  --

Amon  (ˈɑːmən) Egyptian myth;  a variant spelling of Amen"

Why did you stop with Amon being Aegyptian?  Why didn't you go back to it's older African origins since your are presenting it etymologically?  

Egypt is in north Africa, you abysmal idiot and the Aegyptian usage is the oldest one.
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« Reply #29 on: August 01, 2012, 09:50:52 pm »
You are relying on simple modern day dialect pronunciations of older words as your source of reference (dare to compare the ancient spellings eh?). 

"World English Dictionary -
 
Amen , Amon or Amūn  (ˈɑːmən) — n:

Egyptian myth - a local Theban god, having a ram's head and symbolizing life and fertility, identified by the Egyptians with the national deity Amen-Ra  --

Amon  (ˈɑːmən) Egyptian myth;  a variant spelling of Amen"

Why did you stop with Amon being Aegyptian?  Why didn't you go back to it's older African origins since your are presenting it etymologically?  

Egypt is in north Africa, you abysmal idiot and the Aegyptian usage is the oldest one.

Oh my you are using a dictionary that obviously has no inclusion of the Christian usage of the word.  You are most foolish and have provided your own stumbling block.  How ridiculously comical of you to play the jester for us once again.

I am well aware of the geography involved and I would not have stated the difference had I been unsure of myself.  The Egyptian Amon is not from the Aegyptian culture it stems from earlier cultures in Africa, most likely Ethiopia (since it was used there before it was in Egypt).  If I am indeed this abysmal idiot as you claim, then what does that make you since I am correct and you are entirely wrong?
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