daily wiccan book of shadows excerpts

[falcon9]

... the initial posts being made of well within people's freedom of opinions, speeches, and expression.

Indeed, just as any responses made are within those same parameters.  That's not being disputed, (except in a tacit way by your repeated attempts to suppress/limit/censor such responses to those "initial posts").  Those "initial posts" are perceived as rude, pestering, disrespectful, agitating, presumptuous, provoking, needling, santimonious and impolite by non-xtians, (enough though the 'freedom of expression' permits xtians to post such "initial posts").  

You can disagree with their beliefs, but you are wrong in messing with them most every single time any one thing is said.  You are trying to block their freedom as if you are ruling that they are not allowed to say anything about God, or you will plague, pester, agitate, provoke, needle, and hound them, instead of understanding that their personal views are as important as yours are.

You can characterize opposition to INITIAL religious propaganda as "messing with" it and in any other way however, such specious complaints will not affect dissenting opposition to superstitious religious beliefs.

Free choice and free will.  You don't have to agree, but you don't have to torment them "mentally" with the words, quotes, and pics you use.  Other than that, they aren't speaking to only "YOU" - rather to those who would be interested ...

Under that same free will, you don't get to dictate the parameters of the responses to your religious propagandizing. The FC forums and threads are not exclusive venues for xtian proselytization.  Your trolling of a thread concerning a non-xtian belief system, (nothing related to the subject was posted in reply to the context of this thread), reveals more than you intended.  The wiccans might speculate as to that process having nothing whatsover to do with some xtian deital entities.

[falcon9]

So is Fal-con now engaging in the very "proselytiation" that he claims offends him,by creating this thread?

Since I'm not wiccan, is sith-johnnie suggesting that I'm "proselytizing" other religions now?  Wait until we get a thread on 'satanism' ...
As it applies to initial proselytizing by xtians, (variously in verses threads and scattered randomly throughout the forums as religious declarations), the "rule" would mean that the presumptuous rudeness of such proselytizations can be met with opposition, (such reactions may be perceived as "rude" in turn by the initiators of "rude" religious posts but, is a fair application of the "golden rule"). 

[duroz]

So does this mean Falcon can finally leave Bible threads alone?Or are we supposed to harass people in this thread ...

Only if you're dumber than a bucket of wet sand, if not then no.

                     

[Falconer02]

Since I'm not wiccan, is sith-johnnie suggesting that I'm "proselytizing" other religions now?  Wait until we get a thread on 'satanism' ...

I think that'd be pretty funny. Compare the rules and moral guidelines of the CoS to the Abrahamic religions or something.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_of_Satan

[Cuppycake]

So is Fal-con now engaging in the very "proselytiation" that he claims offends him,by creating this thread?

Worshiping nature makes a whole lot more sense then your invisible friend...

[Cuppycake]

The golden rule could be looked at at least 2 different ways (one where you treat others kindly in return for kindness; or the "newer version" where others treat you the opposite of kindness, yet you don't dare treat them the opposite of kindness.)

That's too narrow of a 'view'.  The "golden rule" suggests that someone be treated as they treat others.  As it applies to initial proselytizing by xtians, (variously in verses threads and scattered randomly throughout the forums as religious declarations), the "rule" would mean that the presumptuous rudeness of such proselytizations can be met with opposition, (such reactions may be perceived as "rude" in turn by the initiators of "rude" religious posts but, is a fair application of the "golden rule").  

I can guarantee you the Bible threads will not be left alone - that would be way too difficult and way too boring for some.

There's no presumptive free pass for unopposed proselytiation and to expect such a thing is unreasonably-blind.

"Sit too close to the fire, night-blindness occurs.  Look away from the light and the eyes become accustomed to the formerly unseen."
-- anon wiccan

Sorry to disagree with you, but the initial posts being made of well within people's freedom of opinions, speeches, and expression.  You can disagree with their beliefs, but you are wrong in messing with them most every single time any one thing is said.  You are trying to block their freedom as if you are ruling that they are not allowed to say anything about God, or you will plague, pester, agitate, provoke, needle, and hound them, instead of understanding that their personal views are as important as yours are.  Free choice and free will.  You don't have to agree, but you don't have to torment them "mentally" with the words, quotes, and pics you use.  If they mess with you, dare you, and tell you that you MUST be saved, in a hostile or mean way, then yes, by all means, what you are doing is what they probably deserve.  Other than that, they aren't speaking to only "YOU" - rather to those who would be interested, and so there's no sense in you going in deliberately just to provoke them. (Note:  I'm not necessary speaking of the debate threads, although you do make it a habit of doing what you do; I am mainly speaking of off-topic inspirational or Bible verse threads who are interesting and inspiring for those who do enjoy them.)

This is a forum. If you do not like being on one then don't let the door hit you where apparently what passes for a brain is.

[fc2]

I wonder if there wiccan excerpters in here that are fc members and how their earnings are doing? 

[falcon9]

So is Fal-con now engaging in the very "proselytiation" that he claims offends him,by creating this thread?

Worshiping nature makes a whole lot more sense then your invisible friend...

Oddly enough, there are some aspects of xitianity and wica which overlap.  One of those overlaps concerns viewing "nature" itself  as a 'g-d/dess' form(s).  This stems from ancient beliefs which anthropomorphized natural phenomenon and developed into various religions as time passed.

[jcribb16]

The golden rule could be looked at at least 2 different ways (one where you treat others kindly in return for kindness; or the "newer version" where others treat you the opposite of kindness, yet you don't dare treat them the opposite of kindness.)

That's too narrow of a 'view'.  The "golden rule" suggests that someone be treated as they treat others.  As it applies to initial proselytizing by xtians, (variously in verses threads and scattered randomly throughout the forums as religious declarations), the "rule" would mean that the presumptuous rudeness of such proselytizations can be met with opposition, (such reactions may be perceived as "rude" in turn by the initiators of "rude" religious posts but, is a fair application of the "golden rule").  

I can guarantee you the Bible threads will not be left alone - that would be way too difficult and way too boring for some.

There's no presumptive free pass for unopposed proselytiation and to expect such a thing is unreasonably-blind.

"Sit too close to the fire, night-blindness occurs.  Look away from the light and the eyes become accustomed to the formerly unseen."
-- anon wiccan

Sorry to disagree with you, but the initial posts being made of well within people's freedom of opinions, speeches, and expression.  You can disagree with their beliefs, but you are wrong in messing with them most every single time any one thing is said.  You are trying to block their freedom as if you are ruling that they are not allowed to say anything about God, or you will plague, pester, agitate, provoke, needle, and hound them, instead of understanding that their personal views are as important as yours are.  Free choice and free will.  You don't have to agree, but you don't have to torment them "mentally" with the words, quotes, and pics you use.  If they mess with you, dare you, and tell you that you MUST be saved, in a hostile or mean way, then yes, by all means, what you are doing is what they probably deserve.  Other than that, they aren't speaking to only "YOU" - rather to those who would be interested, and so there's no sense in you going in deliberately just to provoke them. (Note:  I'm not necessary speaking of the debate threads, although you do make it a habit of doing what you do; I am mainly speaking of off-topic inspirational or Bible verse threads who are interesting and inspiring for those who do enjoy them.)

This is a forum. If you do not like being on one then don't let the door hit you where apparently what passes for a brain is.

Oh, my goodness, how nice!  I love being on here!  Have a snappy day! 

[falcon9]

This is a forum. If you do not like being on one then don't let the door hit you where apparently what passes for a brain is.

Oh, my goodness, how nice!  I love being on here!  Have a snappy day! 

"A snappy day" is it?  It may be that a wica would suggest that you attract the attention malevolent 'forces' by such comments and are walking the lefthand path of xtianity.

[duroz]

This is a forum. If you do not like being on one then don't let the door hit you where apparently what passes for a brain is.

I LOVE this, and I hope you don't mind, Cuppycake, if I still the "important" part to use myself from time to time....??

STILL??? Derr

[falcon9]

 

"According to the oral tradition of Witches, we were once the priests and priestesses of a peasant Pagan religion.
Members of this secret sect met at night beneath the full moon, for these were the "misfits" and "outcasts" who did not fit into mainstream society. Little has changed over the centuries and the Witchcraft community still embraces individuals frequently rejected in mainstream society."
-- Raven Grimassi

[shepherdchik]

i read a lot of books on wicca in high school and I truly had something real to believe in. Something tangible, like the earth and wind, water and fire. I wish people would open their minds sometimes and read other religions and beliefs with an open mind instead of just saying it's magic or mystical or fake. I hate closed-minded people. Just let me be and do what i want and if i'm not hurting you then leave me be..people have nothing better to do with their lives i think sometimes..it's sad.

[duroz]

This is a forum. If you do not like being on one then don't let the door hit you where apparently what passes for a brain is.

I LOVE this, and I hope you don't mind, Cuppycake, if I still the "important" part to use myself from time to time....??

STILL??? Derr

What the heck?? That should say "STEAL the important part to use....". I have no idea why I used the word "still" when I posted this.....

So at any rate....Cuppycake, I'm STILL going to STEAL the important part to use myself from time to time

[ptfunds]

Nice job and a refreshing change! Thank you for introducing a little diversity on the Fusion Forum around religious information.  I did get a little amused that your topic did start a bit of a discussion about other notable or should I say notorious folks from the "other" side!  I guess that is just human nature to take the opportunity to flame when given the chance.  I do appreciate your topic and was glad to see others add some additional historical information.  Thanks for posting!