Daily Bible Verse

[falcon9]

Faith is rational.

No; since "faith" is a belief without the rational basis of extant evidence, that makes it irrational.  An empty insistance that it is rational, (sans supporting evidence/reasoning), does not constitute substantive evidence.
 

Faith can be applied to much more than faith in God.

Then it would be 'confidence' or another word which doesn't have a religious context.

There is indeed evidence - it's your decision and business to deny it.

No valid evidence has been presented to support the religious superstitions espoused thusfar, (since 'biblical' quotes are unsubstantiated hearsay and do not constitute valid evidence ... neither do blind faith nor false "IPU" attributions constitute valid evidence).

You are free to agree and disagree with whomever you wish, but you are the one trying to censor dissenting points of view ...

That's false; opposing your specious religious opinions does not constitute attempts to censor them.  In fact, I've repeated insisted that you are free to choose to hold such irrational superstitious beliefs.

... in the way you are constantly degrading believers' views - you aren't just disagreeing, you are being very rude, obnoxious ...

Once again, such attempts of yours to censor/restrict a rational viewpoint which opposes your irrational one by characterizing such opposition as "rude, obnoxious, degrading", etc. are disingenuous.  These are your subjective opinion; mine is that such religious proselytizing brain-washing propaganda is rude, obnoxious, disrepectful, annoying and specious.  That opinion isn't intended to 'censor' your specious opinion.

[jcribb16]

Faith is rational.

No; since "faith" is a belief without the rational basis of extant evidence, that makes it irrational.  An empty insistance that it is rational, (sans supporting evidence/reasoning), does not constitute substantive evidence.
 

Faith can be applied to much more than faith in God.

Then it would be 'confidence' or another word which doesn't have a religious context.

There is indeed evidence - it's your decision and business to deny it.

No valid evidence has been presented to support the religious superstitions espoused thusfar, (since 'biblical' quotes are unsubstantiated hearsay and do not constitute valid evidence ... neither do blind faith nor false "IPU" attributions constitute valid evidence).

You are free to agree and disagree with whomever you wish, but you are the one trying to censor dissenting points of view ...

That's false; opposing your specious religious opinions does not constitute attempts to censor them.  In fact, I've repeated insisted that you are free to choose to hold such irrational superstitious beliefs.

... in the way you are constantly degrading believers' views - you aren't just disagreeing, you are being very rude, obnoxious ...

Once again, such attempts of yours to censor/restrict a rational viewpoint which opposes your irrational one by characterizing such opposition as "rude, obnoxious, degrading", etc. are disingenuous.  These are your subjective opinion; mine is that such religious proselytizing brain-washing propaganda is rude, obnoxious, disrepectful, annoying and specious.  That opinion isn't intended to 'censor' your specious opinion.

Faith does not coincide strictly with religious context.  You are coinciding it because you choose to.

It's still your choice to be in denial of evidence of creation by God. 

I am free to hold beliefs without concern of posters like you who choose to be offensive and make false claims about my beliefs.  You can keep saying those things until you are blue in the face, it gets you nowhere.  They are simply words coming from your mouth, your opinions, your disbelief, and mean nothing to me.  You have your dis beliefs and I have my beliefs, and that's all that matters.

You should go back and re-read your words on your last comment - speak of trying to have the pot call the kettle black - perfect example...

[falcon9]

Faith does not coincide strictly with religious context.  You are coinciding it because you choose to.

The context here is 'religious faith', (being posted in a thread called "daily bible [in]verse, not in a thread called "having confidence").

It's still your choice to be in denial of evidence of creation by God. 

No such accurately-attributible evidence has yet been presented so, there's nothing to deny.
 

I am free to hold beliefs without concern of posters like you who choose to be offensive and make false claims about my beliefs. 

Quote exactly which "false claims" were made about your beliefs or, that will be considered a false accusation by default.

You can keep saying those things until you are blue in the face, it gets you nowhere...I have my beliefs, and that's all that matters.

As reiterated before, you can choose to hold irrational religious beliefs and spout them, just as I can choose to oppose and refute them as specious superstitions which lack evidence.

[jcribb16]

Faith does not coincide strictly with religious context.  You are coinciding it because you choose to.

The context here is 'religious faith', (being posted in a thread called "daily bible [in]verse, not in a thread called "having confidence").

It's still your choice to be in denial of evidence of creation by God. 

No such accurately-attributible evidence has yet been presented so, there's nothing to deny.
 

I am free to hold beliefs without concern of posters like you who choose to be offensive and make false claims about my beliefs. 

Quote exactly which "false claims" were made about your beliefs or, that will be considered a false accusation by default.

You can keep saying those things until you are blue in the face, it gets you nowhere...I have my beliefs, and that's all that matters.

As reiterated before, you can choose to hold irrational religious beliefs and spout them, just as I can choose to oppose and refute them as specious superstitions which lack evidence.

Calling my beliefs irrational is discourteous and you know this.  But like I said, your words don't mean a hill of beans to me.  I don't call your dis beliefs names but it's obvious you don't respect others enough to extend the same courtesy.  I'm totally not surprised since that's all you do towards believers anyway.  It helps you to deal better with your anger or loathing of anything about God, so it's pretty much to be expected.  Whatever makes you deal and be happy is the key for you - nothing new there.

[falcon9]

Calling my beliefs irrational is discourteous and you know this. 

No, calling something which is not rational, 'irrational' is making a factual statement.  You added your own perception of it being "discourteous", which is a subjectively-biased opinion not based on factual evidence.  Since "faith" is specifically that which has no evidentiary basis, holding such blind faith is not rational.  Proselytizing such blind religious beliefs is beyond "discourteous"; it's insidious propagandizing.
 

But like I said, your words don't mean a hill of beans to me.  

You keep insisting that by repeatedly posting it however, repeatedly posting it belies your insistance. In other words, you protest too much that it doesn't matter by protesting that it doesn't matter to you.  I remain dubious for obvious reasons.

[jcribb16]

Calling my beliefs irrational is discourteous and you know this. 

No, calling something which is not rational, 'irrational' is making a factual statement.  You added your own perception of it being "discourteous", which is a subjectively-biased opinion not based on factual evidence.  Since "faith" is specifically that which has no evidentiary basis, holding such blind faith is not rational.  Proselytizing such blind religious beliefs is beyond "discourteous"; it's insidious propagandizing.
 

But like I said, your words don't mean a hill of beans to me.  

You keep insisting that by repeatedly posting it however, repeatedly posting it belies your insistance. In other words, you protest too much that it doesn't matter by protesting that it doesn't matter to you.  I remain dubious for obvious reasons.

Words you use towards me or other believers, do not bother me in the least.  Because when it comes right down to it, as a believer in Christ, 2 Timothy 1:12 (NKJV) says it best for me:  "For this reason I also suffer these things; nevertheless I am not ashamed, for I know whom I have believed and am persuaded that He is able to keep what I have committed to Him until that Day." 

[falcon9]

Words you use towards me or other believers, do not bother me in the least.  

You keep insisting that by repeatedly posting it however, repeatedly posting it belies your insistance. In other words, you protest too much that it doesn't matter by protesting that it doesn't matter to you.  I remain dubious for obvious reasons.

[jcribb16]

Words you use towards me or other believers, do not bother me in the least.  

You keep insisting that by repeatedly posting it however, repeatedly posting it belies your insistance. In other words, you protest too much that it doesn't matter by protesting that it doesn't matter to you.  I remain dubious for obvious reasons.

That's fine.  Not to mention, it's after 4:30 a.m. here, and I know my brain is starting to mush       and I'm saying things again and again.        Or maybe I'm just emphasizing my point about that.      Either way, I really do mean it, as backed by the Timothy verse.   

[falcon9]

Not to mention, it's after 4:30 a.m. here, and I know my brain is starting to mush       and I'm saying things again and again.        Or maybe I'm just emphasizing my point about that.      Either way, I really do mean it, as backed by the Timothy verse.   

The "verse" is based upon a religious belief which is based upon a religious faith which is backed by a religious belief ... and 'round and 'round it goes.

[lhz123]

John 8:31,32 So Jesus said to those who believed in him, “If you obey my teaching, you are really my disciples; you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.”

[falcon9]

"The way to see by faith is to shut the eye of reason."
-- Ben Franklin, Poor Richard's Almanack, 1758

"He that will not reason is a bigot; he that cannot reason is a fool; he that dares not reason is a slave."
-- William Drummond

[lhz123]

Don't be like the people of this world, but let God change the way you think. Then you will know how to do everything that is good and pleasing to him. — Romans 12:2

[falcon9]

Such blunt extolling of religious brain-washing is distasteful propagandizing.

"... let God change the way you think."— Romans 12:2

[vp44]

Is there a blog you 2 can get going or is it just here that you think people really care. Starting to not like this site for reasons being they allow this kinda crap to go on. Makes me wonder how many of you actually work for FC and egg things on.

[falcon9]

Who are you adressing with your semi-coherent insinuations? Also, if the "kind of crap" you are referring to is the incessent posting of religious propaganda, FC permits that, (along with dissenting points of view).  
Does your faith-blindness require suppression of opposing viewpoints?  <--rhetorical question disclaimer

Is there a blog you 2 can get going or is it just here that you think people really care. Starting to not like this site for reasons being they allow this kinda crap to go on. Makes me wonder how many of you actually work for FC and egg things on.