Second Coming

[falcon9]

- that's why people are saying things about his behavior.

Surely they aren't 'gossiping'; that would be "rude", "disrespectful", discourteous and impolite.

Oh my gawd....did you, like, see that font color she was using earlier?. Color disasterrrrr!

Eh?  I wasn't paying attention to that.

[jcribb16]

But I do have to agree with one thing of falcon.  This is a debate and discussion thread.  Which, The Second Coming is one of those threads.  It is when someone puts something in this section that isn't a debate topic that gets everyone fired up.  Especially when it is Bible verses.  Those should be in the regular forum, unless they want them to be debated over....hm....maybe that is why they are being put in this forum.  And Oh Boy, you mentioned the Golden Rule.  LOL!  falcon even has a come back for that one....*sigh*

He's not debating and discussing in this thread - and he certainly is not going to contribute nicely to the Bible verses in the regular forum ...

To you I'm not however, to me you never "debate" and your "discussion" consists mainly of you making pronouncements without backing them up with substantive evidence.  That makes them the empty opinions you have a 'pronounced' penchant for. 

- that's why people are saying things about his behavior.

Surely they aren't 'gossiping'; that would be "rude", "disrespectful", discourteous and impolite.
 

Don't flatter yourself.  These things are said in the open, no gossiping. 

[jcribb16]

Surely they aren't 'gossiping'; that would be "rude", "disrespectful", discourteous and impolite.

Oh my gawd....did you, like, see that font color she was using earlier?. Color disasterrrrr!

What's wrong with the color, and of whom are you speaking?

[JediJohnnie]

Eschatology was never one of my stronger subjects,but the important thing to remember is Jesus will return!We should all pray for that day to arrive soon.

[falcon9]

But I do have to agree with one thing of falcon.  This is a debate and discussion thread.  Which, The Second Coming is one of those threads.  It is when someone puts something in this section that isn't a debate topic that gets everyone fired up.  Especially when it is Bible verses.  Those should be in the regular forum, unless they want them to be debated over....hm....maybe that is why they are being put in this forum.  And Oh Boy, you mentioned the Golden Rule.  LOL!  falcon even has a come back for that one....*sigh*

He's not debating and discussing in this thread - and he certainly is not going to contribute nicely to the Bible verses in the regular forum ...

To you I'm not however, to me you never "debate" and your "discussion" consists mainly of you making pronouncements without backing them up with substantive evidence.  That makes them the empty opinions you have a 'pronounced' penchant for.

 

- that's why people are saying things about his behavior.

{"Falconeer02"'s reply here, to which "falcon9" responded, was omitted by "jcribb16}

Surely they aren't 'gossiping'; that would be "rude", "disrespectful", discourteous and impolite.
 

These things are said in the open, no gossiping.  

The accurate description of "gossiping" is not dependent upon it being concealed or open, gossiper.

[falcon9]

Eschatology was never one of my stronger subjects,but the important thing to remember is Jesus will return!We should all pray for that day to arrive soon.

Neither is reasoning ability one of JJ's "stronger subjects".  Nonetheless, why would anyone engage in magical intercessory rituals which encourage a 'zombie apocalypse'?

[jcribb16]

Eschatology was never one of my stronger subjects,but the important thing to remember is Jesus will return!We should all pray for that day to arrive soon.

Neither is reasoning ability one of JJ's "stronger subjects".  Nonetheless, why would anyone engage in magical intercessory rituals which encourage a 'zombie apocalypse'?

They don't encourage any such thing.   

[falcon9]

Eschatology was never one of my stronger subjects,but the important thing to remember is Jesus will return!We should all pray for that day to arrive soon.

Neither is reasoning ability one of JJ's "stronger subjects".  Nonetheless, why would anyone engage in magical intercessory rituals which encourage a 'zombie apocalypse'?

They don't encourage any such thing.  

They don't?  What about encouraging the belief that a 'dead guy' will come back to life, along with those who buy that notion,
(that's what defines "zombies")?

[jcribb16]

Eschatology was never one of my stronger subjects,but the important thing to remember is Jesus will return!We should all pray for that day to arrive soon.

Neither is reasoning ability one of JJ's "stronger subjects".  Nonetheless, why would anyone engage in magical intercessory rituals which encourage a 'zombie apocalypse'?

They don't encourage any such thing.  

They don't?  What about encouraging the belief that a 'dead guy' will come back to life, along with those who buy that notion,
(that's what defines "zombies")?

Believers do not have to think like you seem to think they should.  You don't believe what Christ did - that is your choice.  People make up their own minds with religious beliefs with their own personal reasons.  It has nothing to do with the ridiculous and derogatory term "zombie apocalypse."

[falcon9]

Believers do not have to think like you seem to think they should. 

True, believers don't have to "think" irrationally, that's their choice. {note the play on words} 

You don't believe what Christ did - that is your choice.  People make up their own minds with religious beliefs with their own personal reasons.  It has nothing to do with the ridiculous and derogatory term "zombie apocalypse."

'A zombie is an animated corpse brought back to life by mystical/supernatural means, such as witchcraft or, rapturing. The term is often figuratively applied to describe a hypnotized person bereft of consciousness and self-awareness, yet ambulant and able to respond to surrounding stimuli.'
--paraphrased source

[jcribb16]

Believers do not have to think like you seem to think they should. 

True, believers don't have to "think" irrationally, that's their choice. {note the play on words} 

You don't believe what Christ did - that is your choice.  People make up their own minds with religious beliefs with their own personal reasons.  It has nothing to do with the ridiculous and derogatory term "zombie apocalypse."

'A zombie is an animated corpse brought back to life by mystical/supernatural means, such as witchcraft or, rapturing. The term is often figuratively applied to describe a hypnotized person bereft of consciousness and self-awareness, yet ambulant and able to respond to surrounding stimuli.'
--paraphrased source

Please stop that.  Believers are NOT irrational for their beliefs.  They are just as entitled to their beliefs as you are to your choice of what you think.  Neither are irrational - that is rude.

Christ was not a "zombie." 

[falcon9]

Believers do not have to think like you seem to think they should.

True, believers don't have to "think" irrationally, that's their choice. {note the play on words}

 

You don't believe what Christ did - that is your choice.  People make up their own minds with religious beliefs with their own personal reasons.  It has nothing to do with the ridiculous and derogatory term "zombie apocalypse."

'A zombie is an animated corpse brought back to life by mystical/supernatural means, such as witchcraft or, rapturing. The term is often figuratively applied to describe a hypnotized person bereft of consciousness and self-awareness, yet ambulant and able to respond to surrounding stimuli.'
--paraphrased source

Please stop that.  Believers are NOT irrational for their beliefs.  

A "belief" in something for which there is no evidence isn't 'rational' therefore, it's irrational.  This applies to any belief, not just religious ones.

They are just as entitled to their beliefs as you are to your choice of what you think.  Neither are irrational - that is rude.

I never insisted/implied/insinuated that believers were not "entitled" to whatever specious beliefs they want to cling to.  It isn't any more "rude" or, 'impolite' to point this out in an open FC venue than it is for such believers to post regarding their religious beliefs in an open FC venue.  Either both are "rude/impolite" or, neither are.  Anything less than that would illuminate bias.

Christ was not a "zombie."  

Let's see ...
"zombie": was alive, then dead, then reanimated
"jesus": was alive, then dead, then reanimated

Damn, you're *right*, they're completely different notions!

[Falconer02]

Let's see ...
"zombie": was alive, then dead, then reanimated
"jesus": was alive, then dead, then reanimated

Damn, you're *right*, they're completely different notions!

In all seriousness, I think Jesus would be classified as more of a Lich than your stereotypical zombie. Both have very similar traits to this biblical character though.

"Unlike zombies, which are often depicted as mindless, part of a hivemind and/or under the control of some magician, a lich retains independent thought and is usually at least as intelligent as it was prior to its transformation."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lich

[falcon9]

Let's see ...
"zombie": was alive, then dead, then reanimated
"jesus": was alive, then dead, then reanimated

Damn, you're *right*, they're completely different notions!

In all seriousness, I think Jesus would be classified as more of a Lich than your stereotypical zombie. Both have very similar traits to this biblical character though.

"Unlike zombies, which are often depicted as mindless, part of a hivemind and/or under the control of some magician, a lich retains independent thought and is usually at least as intelligent as it was prior to its transformation."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lich

I'd have to dispute the distinguishing aspects of "independent thought and is usually at least as intelligent as it was prior to its transformation" in the comparisons though, (unless it inherently includes such lack of independent thought/intelligence prior to the reanimating transformation ... that is, if the 'zombie/lich' wasn't all that bright when alive ...)

[Falconer02]

I'd have to dispute the distinguishing aspects of "independent thought and is usually at least as intelligent as it was prior to its transformation" in the comparisons though, (unless it inherently includes such lack of independent thought/intelligence prior to the reanimating transformation ... that is, if the 'zombie/lich' wasn't all that bright when alive ...)

I'll compromise and call him a zombie-lich hybrid.