Gay Marriage

[JediJohnnie]

Maybe 1 day FC will honorably discharge you from the forum!

Dis-honorably wouldnt be bad either .....LOL!

Lol!If only!

[hitch0403]

Falcon9...I have no idea what UR talking about....you put a post up that i posted but i dont see your name with it....do you have a guilty conscience?

Its  no good to threaten me that i was speaking about you..theres no proof!!

So watch what you say otherwise i might have to report you.

And BTW...i agree with what bible says about gay marriage.

[falcon9]

Falcon9...I have no idea what UR talking about....you put a post up that i posted but i dont see your name with it....do you have a guilty conscience?

If you are unable to collow the context of a thread, maybe you should quote who you're replying to, (unless your blind religious faith prevents cognitive functioning).

Its  no good to threaten me that i was speaking about you..theres no proof!!

No threat was made unless you made it.  As you proceed to do below:

So watch what you say otherwise i might have to report you.

Go ahead and file a false report; FC staff 'love' that - sometimes it even engenders 'vacation' planning.

And BTW...i agree with what bible says about gay marriage.

That's because you mindlessly adhere to blind faith however, that's not a shock either.

[heypeg]

In my opinion what you do in your private life, is just that private. As far as "same sex" marriage, if you live in a state that allows it go for it. The only problem I have with it is in the religous context. If a certain religion has objections then they should be respected, I don't think people should be bursting into churchs, temples, etc and throwing things at the clergy. If you don't agree with a particular religous belief you don't have to attend services there, it's as simple as that.

[falcon9]

If a certain religion has objections then they should be respected ...

Such an opinion may be based upon conflating 'respect' for option to hold a religious belief and any obligation to respect the content of those superstitious beliefs.  There is no such obligation.

If you don't agree with a particular religous belief you don't have to attend services there, it's as simple as that.

Actually, others have the same option to disagree with any particular religious belief as those who hold blind religious beliefs do to have them.

[Falconer02]

If a certain religion has objections then they should be respected, I don't think people should be bursting into churchs, temples, etc and throwing things at the clergy.

Respect? Try tolerate. Respecting something while it's causing problems always gets one into trouble. You should always have the right to say "I acknowledge your beliefs, but they are extremely illogical and do not deserve to be respected, therefore *DEBATE*."

And I don't see people who have no beliefs in the supernatural busting into churches, etc. throwing things. That's mainly reserved for the believer's demonizing each other.

[madeara]

Hi,
I am opposed to Gay Marriage.  I believe that marriage is a sacred vow between a man and a woman.

[falcon9]

Hi,
I am opposed to Gay Marriage.  I believe that marriage is a sacred vow between a man and a woman.

How would it be for you if a gay male married a lesbian woman?

[Optiwoman]

I personally don't believe in marraige at all - but if you are going to bite that bullet, I don't think anyone else should have a say so in who you marry.  The commitment is no less real for any one demographic.   

[ghunter]

I don't believe in it, but who am I to judge only God will.

[falcon9]

I don't believe in it, but who am I to judge only God will.

Presumably, you have a physical existance and an ability to make judgements, whereas no evidence exists of some vague metaphysical entity having either of those aspects.

[cknibbs]

What's your stance on Gay Marriage? It shouldn't even be an issue, but it is, so I want to hear everyone's thoughts, especially those in opposition.

Well here is my stance on 'gay marriage' and it base on what the bible have to say on the marriage...Ephesians 5:22,23 marriage union must be honorable,likened to christ bride,so with that scripture text alone where in there does 'gay marriage fit?..1Corinthians 6:9-11...will not inherit god kingdom.now that i my stance on the topic of 'gay marriage' and it backed up god.

[heroftimes]

what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may G-d have mercy on your soul.

What's your stance on Gay Marriage? It shouldn't even be an issue, but it is, so I want to hear everyone's thoughts, especially those in opposition.

Well here is my stance on 'gay marriage' and it base on what the bible have to say on the marriage...Ephesians 5:22,23 marriage union must be honorable,likened to christ bride,so with that scripture text alone where in there does 'gay marriage fit?..1Corinthians 6:9-11...will not inherit god kingdom.now that i my stance on the topic of 'gay marriage' and it backed up god.

[rdmytrow]

I agree that this shouldn't even be an issue. I mean if two people love each other, they should have the right to get married and enjoy all the legal benefits of having such a union. Otherwise they're just cohabitating adults in a relationship who still have to file seperate taxes.

Why do we focus so heavily on same sex marraiges? What about transvestites or transgender relationships? Do they have to lie and just pick a sex?

Marraige used to exist only in the form of arranged marraiges; marrying for love is a rather new concept. Generally marraige was supposed to lead to procriation so that's why it was traditionally between a man and a woman.

That being said, just because it's tradition, doesn't mean it's the one and only way or even that it's the best way. Relying on traditions is committing the logical fallacy "appeal to tradition".

People traditionally kept slaves, that doesn't mean slavery was right.

[rdmytrow]

What's your stance on Gay Marriage? It shouldn't even be an issue, but it is, so I want to hear everyone's thoughts, especially those in opposition.

Well here is my stance on 'gay marriage' and it base on what the bible have to say on the marriage...Ephesians 5:22,23 marriage union must be honorable,likened to christ bride,so with that scripture text alone where in there does 'gay marriage fit?..1Corinthians 6:9-11...will not inherit god kingdom.now that i my stance on the topic of 'gay marriage' and it backed up god.

That right there is committing the logical fallacy "appeal to authority" you're not logically reasoning out your argument you're just refering to something or someone else's word and going with it. You haven't logically deduced why we should even listen to your source of authority. Nor have you even tried to address the points people make for or against the issue.

This country was built on seperation of church and state. Using religious principles to determine laws violates that notion. When determining what rights someone should and shouldn't have, such arguments should be looked at objectively and completely unbiased.

Objectively I see no problem with letting same sex individuals who love each other deeply enjoy the benefits of a legal union. It in no way impacts the heterosexual unions, they still get all the legal rights and benefits they enjoy today.

What other people do is their business, they shouldn't have to deal with a government telling them it's not right or it's not legal. How can love not be right?