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[walksalone11]

Like you say, that was then.....a lot of water has passed beneath the bridge.....here ya go,I pass my crown to you.

No, no, no ... I was bequeathed the "brash" plaque here, not the "*bleep*" trophy thusfar.  Keep the donkey on your mantel for now, we'll see how it goes. 

Well....if you insist. It is a good reminder of where I've been, and where the path I'm on now is supposed to be leading.

[falcon9]

Well....if you insist. It is a good reminder of where I've been, and where the path I'm on now is supposed to be leading.

I suppose so ... as long as you stay on the donkey-path and not attribute falling off to the "asphalt"?

[SherylsShado]

yeah...and when trying to decide which path to take in life, avoid the "psycho-paths"!! 

[falcon9]

Like you say, that was then.....a lot of water has passed beneath the bridge.....here ya go,I pass my crown to you.

That bridge may have even been washed-out during the monsoons ... however ...
'Traditionally', (as you know), such 'sacred totems' may only pass from mother to daughter or, father to son ... unless ......  dad, is that you? 

[falcon9]

yeah...and when trying to decide which path to take in life, avoid the "psycho-paths"!! 

This is excellent advice - now if only the "psychopaths" would wear forehead bumperstickers to identify themselves, some drama might be prevented.

[walksalone11]

Like you say, that was then.....a lot of water has passed beneath the bridge.....here ya go,I pass my crown to you.

That bridge may have even been washed-out during the monsoons ... however ...
'Traditionally', (as you know), such 'sacred totems' may only pass from mother to daughter or, father to son ... unless ......  dad, is that you? 

NO!!!...you cant have a raise in your allowance....nor the keys to the truck.....and I like Appaloosas.....

[falcon9]

.....here ya go,I pass my crown to you.

'Traditionally', (as you know), such 'sacred totems' may only pass from mother to daughter or, father to son ... unless ......  dad, is that you?  

NO!!!...you cant have a raise in your allowance....nor the keys to the truck.....and I like Appaloosas.....

Wouldn't the Appaloosas go to her dad, not mine?  Besides, you never said you were Choctaw.  I do however, have some nice shiny beads to trade to you for some land ...

[walksalone11]

.....here ya go,I pass my crown to you.

'Traditionally', (as you know), such 'sacred totems' may only pass from mother to daughter or, father to son ... unless ......  dad, is that you?  

NO!!!...you cant have a raise in your allowance....nor the keys to the truck.....and I like Appaloosas.....

Wouldn't the Appaloosas go to her dad, not mine?  Besides, you never said you were Choctaw.  I do however, have some nice shiny beads to trade to you for some land ...

Can't blame a guy for tryin' eh?

Sure theres some nice land right down the road here.....not really to sure who owns it but I'll trade ya.

[falcon9]

Can't blame a guy for tryin' eh?

Sure theres some nice land right down the road here.....not really to sure who owns it but I'll trade ya.

While that sounds a lot like the Manhatten Island deal, I somehow doubt that the person who owns land down the road from you would appreciate the transaction.

Were you aware that "Anasazi" is a Navajo word meaning "ancient people who are not us," a name disliked by modern Hopi and Zuni, the descendants of the Anasazi. The Hopi prefer the name Hisatsinom, meaning "ancient ones," or Moqui, meaning "the dead."
-- Anasazi Indian Facts | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/about_5373418_anasazi-indian.html#ixzz1vRdJ4DfS

[walksalone11]

Can't blame a guy for tryin' eh?

Sure theres some nice land right down the road here.....not really to sure who owns it but I'll trade ya.

While that sounds a lot like the Manhatten Island deal, I somehow doubt that the person who owns land down the road from you would appreciate the transaction.

Were you aware that "Anasazi" is a Navajo word meaning "ancient people who are not us," a name disliked by modern Hopi and Zuni, the descendants of the Anasazi. The Hopi prefer the name Hisatsinom, meaning "ancient ones," or Moqui, meaning "the dead."
-- Anasazi Indian Facts | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/about_5373418_anasazi-indian.html#ixzz1vRdJ4DfS

Wow, this could wind up being a very long conversation, we might want to think about a separate thread? I have come across some info on that subject in some pretty un related research, but the content is not that fresh in my mind. Allow me, before responding other than vaguely, to refresh my memory. I'm thinking I saw something about that in a book I have on ancient rock art in this area. I'll check out your link, read up what I have and perhaps speak to some Dine and Hopi friends/Relatives I have here locally, and I will get back to you.

[falcon9]

Wow, this could wind up being a very long conversation, we might want to think about a separate thread? I have come across some info on that subject in some pretty un related research, but the content is not that fresh in my mind. Allow me, before responding other than vaguely, to refresh my memory. I'm thinking I saw something about that in a book I have on ancient rock art in this area. I'll check out your link, read up what I have and perhaps speak to some Dine and Hopi friends/Relatives I have here locally, and I will get back to you.

Excellent, that sounds interesting.  Go ahead and start a new d+d or off topic thread, (something like "Anasazi ancients"?), so we can clear out of this 'calling out' thread?

[walksalone11]

Wow, this could wind up being a very long conversation, we might want to think about a separate thread? I have come across some info on that subject in some pretty un related research, but the content is not that fresh in my mind. Allow me, before responding other than vaguely, to refresh my memory. I'm thinking I saw something about that in a book I have on ancient rock art in this area. I'll check out your link, read up what I have and perhaps speak to some Dine and Hopi friends/Relatives I have here locally, and I will get back to you.

Excellent, that sounds interesting.  Go ahead and start a new d+d or off topic thread, (something like "Anasazi ancients"?), so we can clear out of this 'calling out' thread?

I'm going to do a bit of research before initiating the new thread but will once I am ready. I am usually a bit reluctant to do a lot of in depth speaking on a Nation other than my own, so want to be very careful about not mis-speaking. It may be a couple days or so.

[falcon9]

I'm going to do a bit of research before initiating the new thread but will once I am ready. I am usually a bit reluctant to do a lot of in depth speaking on a Nation other than my own, so want to be very careful about not mis-speaking. It may be a couple days or so.

That won't be any problem at all.  If there's anything that a Hopi, Navajo or Dine would find inappropriate to talk about outside of the tribe, omit that and no one else will ever know something was omitted.

[walksalone11]

I'm going to do a bit of research before initiating the new thread but will once I am ready. I am usually a bit reluctant to do a lot of in depth speaking on a Nation other than my own, so want to be very careful about not mis-speaking. It may be a couple days or so.

That won't be any problem at all.  If there's anything that a Hopi, Navajo or Dine would find inappropriate to talk about outside of the tribe, omit that and no one else will ever know something was omitted.

Even tho I have many people from other Nations whom I share a mutual feeling of Relation, too, there are many things that we do not speak of even to each other. I doubt I will become privy to any thing that would be considered inappropriate in that manner, however, of course, when speaking with them that caution will be mentioned.

That's just the way it is. Even with in my Nation (I wont speak now of others) some things are Nation specific, some are clan specific, family etc. As an example there are some ceremony that only Medicine Person's are allowed into, no one who isn't of that group, even knows what goes on in those Ceremonies. We take these things for granted and think nothing of it.

[falcon9]

I'm going to do a bit of research before initiating the new thread but will once I am ready. I am usually a bit reluctant to do a lot of in depth speaking on a Nation other than my own, so want to be very careful about not mis-speaking. It may be a couple days or so.

That won't be any problem at all.  If there's anything that a Hopi, Navajo or Dine would find inappropriate to talk about outside of the tribe, omit that and no one else will ever know something was omitted.

Even tho I have many people from other Nations whom I share a mutual feeling of Relation, too, there are many things that we do not speak of even to each other. I doubt I will become privy to any thing that would be considered inappropriate in that manner, however, of course, when speaking with them that caution will be mentioned.

That's just the way it is. Even with in my Nation (I wont speak now of others) some things are Nation specific, some are clan specific, family etc. As an example there are some ceremony that only Medicine Person's are allowed into, no one who isn't of that group, even knows what goes on in those Ceremonies. We take these things for granted and think nothing of it.

That's pretty much as I'd thought but, it's good that you confirmed that for those who might not have previously been aware that some things are on a need-to-know basis.  Thanks.  Rememer to just visit and just bs with those you talk to as well.