Evolution (please don't take offense to this topic)

[falcon9]

What is wrong with believing a higher power like God?  

What's wrong with just keeping it to yourself? I am not atheist/agnostic, but I don't post about my beliefs.

Ones faith, beliefs and relationship with what ever higher power they subscribe to is a very personal one, why is that xtians feel the need to blab about it all over the place. Who are you really trying to convince?

Exactly.  Thanks, 'walks'.  The point he's reiterating is that, were religious adherents to 'keep their beliefs to themselves', there'd be no opposing viewpoints concerning them expressed, (at least specifically).  Once such religious beliefs are made public, it's pretty much open season on them as much bas on any posted opinion/assertion/pronouncement, (not just religious ones).

[Cubboo]

What is wrong with believing a higher power like God? 

What's wrong with just keeping it to yourself? I am not atheist/agnostic, but I don't post about my beliefs.

Ones faith, beliefs and relationship with what ever higher power they subscribe to is a very personal one, why is that xtians feel the need to blab about it all over the place. Who are you really trying to convince?

Exactly.  Thanks, 'walks'.  The point he's reiterating is that, were religious adherents to 'keep their beliefs to themselves', they're be no opposing viewpoints concerning them expressed, (at least specifically).  Once such religious beliefs are made public, it's pretty much open season on them as much bas on any posted opinion/assertion/pronouncement, (not just religious ones).

Funny how the op said this isn't an anti religious post but that's what it has turned into... I'm a Christian and anyone who argues evolution doesn't occur is wrong. I'm pretty educated and I studied this at college and it's not a topic to be discussed. Evolution happens and there is proof. The funny thing is if you would do research before arguing for or against the subject just go study it. Charles Darwin never once said anything about humans coming from monkeys and he was also a Christian and believed in God...

[walksalone11]

What is wrong with believing a higher power like God? 

What's wrong with just keeping it to yourself? I am not atheist/agnostic, but I don't post about my beliefs.

Ones faith, beliefs and relationship with what ever higher power they subscribe to is a very personal one, why is that xtians feel the need to blab about it all over the place. Who are you really trying to convince?

Exactly.  Thanks, 'walks'.  The point he's reiterating is that, were religious adherents to 'keep their beliefs to themselves', they're be no opposing viewpoints concerning them expressed, (at least specifically).  Once such religious beliefs are made public, it's pretty much open season on them as much bas on any posted opinion/assertion/pronouncement, (not just religious ones).

Funny how the op said this isn't an anti religious post but that's what it has turned into... I'm a Christian and anyone who argues evolution doesn't occur is wrong. I'm pretty educated and I studied this at college and it's not a topic to be discussed. Evolution happens and there is proof. The funny thing is if you would do research before arguing for or against the subject just go study it. Charles Darwin never once said anything about humans coming from monkeys and he was also a Christian and believed in God...

I'm going to type this REEEEAAAALLLYYYY slow so the rest of you have a chance for it to sink in. No one here really cares if you are christian....we just don't subscribe to it, are not interested in being assimilated, and don't care to hear about it constantly.

[Falconer02]

I am a Christian and believe in God and Jesus and what not.  I am not an agnostic....I just know that there is more out there as well.  My pastor is a scholar of theology.  He knows the Bible forwards, backwards and inside out.  He learned Greek, Hebrew and even Latin so that he could be a true scholar and be able to read the old texts that are in the original languages to help us understand it better.  I have learned a lot from him since joining the church.

No, that doesn't raise any red flags.  Who knows why there were no accounts of Christianity back then.  It was a different time and life was hard.  People turned their backs on religion.

This is simply false though as people needed explanations for the things around them and invented gods to answer these questions (rain gods, sun gods, emotional gods, etc.). Many outdate your arbrahamic beliefs as well (Hinduism for instance). How does this not raise any red flags? It seems to point towards a malevolent/uncaring god who just suddenly appears in a barbaric part of the world. If you believe evolution is true, it seems you must believe in a god who wasn't there for 95%+ of our current physical state. If you cannot answer this, could you run it by your pastor? I know it contrasts a bit of what Falcon9 and Walks are saying (as I mainly agree with them, but in this instance) I'm very interested in hearing what he has to say. Or if you do have an answer, please explain if you wish.

[Falconer02]

What does this all have to do with "evolution" you might ask?  For one thing, history has shown that some religions 'evolve' while some don't and die-off.  Even xtianity has 'evolved' in outer aspect, (while retaining an inner aspect of plaguarism, intolerance for other belief systems or, for those who lack a belief system), and deception by promoting self-deceptions such as 'blind faith'.

As we're all too-well acquainted with on this forum. Interesting parallel.

Charles Darwin never once said anything about humans coming from monkeys and he was also a Christian and believed in God...

True, but so was Isaac Newton. Newton was also an alchemist though. Does alchemy have any merit to it? Of course not. People believed in weird stuff in the past. If both of these individuals were alive today, it's almost a guarentee that neither would be religious due to the massive contradictions within their studies that can be proven.

[Cubboo]

What does this all have to do with "evolution" you might ask?  For one thing, history has shown that some religions 'evolve' while some don't and die-off.  Even xtianity has 'evolved' in outer aspect, (while retaining an inner aspect of plaguarism, intolerance for other belief systems or, for those who lack a belief system), and deception by promoting self-deceptions such as 'blind faith'.

As we're all too-well acquainted with on this forum. Interesting parallel.

Charles Darwin never once said anything about humans coming from monkeys and he was also a Christian and believed in God...

True, but so was Isaac Newton. Newton was also an alchemist though. Does alchemy have any merit to it? Of course not. People believed in weird stuff in the past. If both of these individuals were alive today, it's almost a guarentee that neither would be religious due to the massive contradictions within their studies that can be proven.

Ok so Christianty is a mystery and can't prove God exist just like you have no idea or can prove where the world came from guess we're in the same boat... I also find it quite comical you act like two of the smartest men in the world were "fooled" or believed in weird stuff back then but today your almost certain they wouldn't lol... ( impressive mr. Psychic) he believed in God back then cause he wanted to people believe in weird stuff today also ( like not believing in anything. Just thinking all this around us is a big ole coincidence)... Ole "stupid" Darwin believed in God that's a fact...

[Falconer02]

Ok so Christianty is a mystery and can't prove God exist just like you have no idea or can prove where the world came from guess we're in the same boat...

Christianity isn't a mystery though. It's mythology. You saying this shows you're a bit lacking in the faith department.

I also find it quite comical you act like two of the smartest men in the world were "fooled" or believed in weird stuff back then but today your almost certain they wouldn't lol... ( impressive mr. Psychic) he believed in God back then cause he wanted to people believe in weird stuff today also ( like not believing in anything. Just thinking all this around us is a big ole coincidence)... Ole "stupid" Darwin believed in God that's a fact...

Look at it this way-
Alchemy = nonsense. Gravity = evidence. Newton, if he were alive today, would not dabble in alchemy anymore as we now know it's pseudoscience. I'm sure both you and I could agree on this, correct? When you apply the same to religion and evolution, it could be seen as the same. Considering the vast majority of bioligists are not religious (or loosely religious if that), I'm sure these two would apply the many contradictions within biology and religious viewpoints. Even Darwin pointed out that he was an agnostic later in his lifetime after much of his research was done.

"Whilst on board the Beagle I was quite orthodox, & I remember being heartily laughed at by several of the officers (though themselves orthodox) for quoting the Bible as an unanswerable authority on some point of morality. I suppose it was the novelty of the argument that amused them. But I had gradually come, by this time, (i.e. 1836 to 1839) to see that the Old Testament from its manifestly false history of the world, with the Tower of Babel, rainbow as a sign, &c., &c., & from its attributing to God the feelings of a revengeful tyrant, was no more to be trusted than the sacred books of the Hindoos, or the beliefs of any barbarian."
- Darwin

This just goes to the old saying that if you were born in a different time or place and were not well educated with what we know now, the probability of you accepting the current popular religious beliefs would be extremely high.

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[Cubboo]

That quite from Darwin says nothing about him being agnostic... That's how you interpreted it... Also that present from kholer is over a month old I just left it on there... Although I have made over 2000 from that blog in five months... Wish he'd let me keep it on my sig to grow my money more

[falcon9]

Also that present from kholer is over a month old I just left it on there... Although I have made over 2000 from that blog in five months... Wish he'd let me keep it on my sig to grow my money more

Since that link is a violation of FC's Terms of Service, you're fortunate that you weren't banned for it, (and that FC apparently gives considerable leeway in general).

[Cubboo]

I've talked to the fc staff about you... They said they look at every post you write and monitor them (kinda like having to watch a kid?) and said many people have complained about you in the past that's why they watch your post... YOU be glad they haven't banned you lol

[walksalone11]

I've talked to the fc staff about you... They said they look at every post you write and monitor them (kinda like having to watch a kid?) and said many people have complained about you in the past that's why they watch your post... YOU be glad they haven't banned you lol

Snitch eh?(kinda like the watched kid?) If they watch every post he makes, and haven't banned him, perhaps that should tell you something, no? Just sayin'

[falcon9]

I've talked to the gc staff about you...

Without an attribution context, the speculation is that you're referring to me, (although it's FC - not "gc").

They said they look at every post you write and monitor them (kinda like having to watch a kid) ...

No doubt the FC staff looks at posts from many of it's members, (including yours; with the "having to watch a kid" applying more accurately to your childish posts than to many of mine).

... and said many people have complained about you in the past...

Of course mind-blinded xtians have complained that I've questioned their assumptions and challenged their baseless claims; that's to be expected from those unable to substantiate their empty assertions.  It's far easier for some to blame others for their own short-comings than it is to have enough courage of your convictions to debate & discuss them, (instead of 'running off to tell on them' like a child would).

YOU be glad they haven't banned you lol

Why would I; I'm not the one who's violated the FC ToS like you have, (at least twice ... once with posting a "calling out" thread and again, by posting a link for your own financial benefit)?  Even with FC's tolerant patience, the third time may be the charm for you.  
hth

[walksalone11]

I've talked to the gc staff about you...

Without an attribution context, the speculation is that you're referring to me, (although it's FC - not "gc").

They said they look at every post you write and monitor them (kinda like having to watch a kid) ...

No doubt the FC staff looks at posts from many of it's members, (including yours; with the "having to watch a kid" applying more accurately to your childish posts than to many of mine).

... and said many people have complained about you in the past...

Of course mind-blinded xtians have complained that I've questioned their assumptions and challenged their baseless claims; that's to be expected from those unable to substantiate their empty assertions.  It's far easier for some to blame others for their own short-comings than it is to have enough courage of your convictions to debate & discuss them, (instead of 'running off to tell on them' like a child would).

YOU be glad they haven't banned you lol

Why would I; I'm not the one who's violated the FC ToS like you have, (at least twice ... once with posting a "calling out" thread and again, by posting a link for your own financial benefit)?  Even with FC's tolerant patience, the third time may be the charm for you.  
hth

Falcon, how many times have you failed to get the 3 bucks for being a valued contributer to the boards?

[falcon9]

Falcon, how many times have you failed to get the 3 bucks for being a valued contributer to the boards?

Let's see ... since I'd begun submitted my 3 contributory posts for that bonus, they've qualified for it every single time without fail.  Somehow, I've managed this feat without posting a "calling out" thread, (in violation of FC's ToS), nor a prohibited link or any 'warning' from FC staff concerning posted content.

Must be a 'coincidence', aye?

[walksalone11]

Falcon, how many times have you failed to get the 3 bucks for being a valued contributer to the boards?

Let's see ... since I'd begun submitted my 3 contributory posts for that bonus, they've qualified for it every single time without fail.  Somehow, I've managed this feat without posting a "calling out" thread, (in violation of FC's ToS), nor a prohibited link or any 'warning' from FC staff concerning posted content.

Must be a 'coincidence', aye?

Ya think?

Ok, all you whiners can all go cry together in the kiddies corner some where....just do it QUIETLY!!!