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why they do not lowest their heavy salaries,and make a balance between their nice high salaries between the public help..... ???




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Re: It be immoral for Congress to cut food stamps for the poor?
« Reply #1 on: April 19, 2012, 09:44:23 pm »
Would you lower your own salary to give money to poor people that won't work?

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Re: It be immoral for Congress to cut food stamps for the poor?
« Reply #2 on: April 20, 2012, 04:45:18 am »
It's not a matter of cutting your salary to help the poor who won't work, but what about the poor who cannot work due to a disability?  It is not that person's fault they can't work, so should they be penalized by getting their food stamps cut?  I don't think so.  What the government needs to do is base each person applying for help on their ability to work or not (disabled), how many people in household, their income and their expenses.  They do it now on a general scale.  I personally  d on't think this is fair by any means.
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Re: It be immoral for Congress to cut food stamps for the poor?
« Reply #3 on: April 20, 2012, 07:39:06 am »
If we stop allowing "green card" holders collect on food stamps, there would be more support for the elderly & disabled folks. I don't mind visitors....but I believe EVERY country should keep that rule. (My opinion of course)

[I was actually in line at a grocery store and watched a family who didn't speak English cash in on 6 WIC vouchers...I couldn't get stamps for my kids as a solo parent!!!! This country's leaders needs to seriously re-evaluate things.]

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Re: It be immoral for Congress to cut food stamps for the poor?
« Reply #4 on: April 20, 2012, 07:57:24 am »
My feeling is that food stamps should not be cut...  But I'm not sure congress's salaries should be cut in order to keep it going.  Our leaders don't make THAT much money.  Better to take it from some non-essential programs - like NASA or the military.

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Re: It be immoral for Congress to cut food stamps for the poor?
« Reply #5 on: April 20, 2012, 08:23:17 am »
Congress should never cut food stamps for the poor. That would be most un-American and mean. The poor is struggling bad enough as it is.

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Re: It be immoral for Congress to cut food stamps for the poor?
« Reply #6 on: April 20, 2012, 04:35:35 pm »
Congress should never cut food stamps for the poor. That would be most un-American and mean. The poor is struggling bad enough as it is.

Two words apply; deficit spending.  The goverment cannot continue paying for everything needed, no matter how much it's needed because there isn't enough money to go around.  That's why congress cannot make much progress on the national budget.
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Re: It be immoral for Congress to cut food stamps for the poor?
« Reply #7 on: April 20, 2012, 04:44:48 pm »

they can quit spending on things that are unnessary and not send money to all those countries that don't like us and also curb all raises for congress. They already make a fortune off of us and then get their retirement. They should abid by the rules they set forth on us. And i am against the illegals that get govet. benifts when the poor people of our contry can't get help.

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Re: It be immoral for Congress to cut food stamps for the poor?
« Reply #8 on: April 20, 2012, 04:54:15 pm »
Congress should never cut food stamps for the poor. That would be most un-American and mean. The poor is struggling bad enough as it is.

Two words apply; deficit spending.  The goverment cannot continue paying for everything needed, no matter how much it's needed because there isn't enough money to go around.  That's why congress cannot make much progress on the national budget.

I agree.  Deficit spending is even worse than people realize if you figure we end up paying about 40% interest on what we borrow and this greatly reduces our financial stability greatly and places us at great risk.  Think about all the money we wasted simply to paying off debt that was most likely unnecessary in the first place.  There is a line somewhere, where if we hadn't borrowed the amount and had saved where we would at least be where we are now but without any debt at all.

Some have suggested that it isn't the poor people's faults that they are poor, and that may be true, but it is even more true that it isn't my fault they are poor.  I should not be forced to support them, and anytime you mention the government supporting/paying for something, it is actually us that do and for less efficiency and at greater waste than we can do ourselves.  There are many of us that are charitable and give time and money and support to others, we make sure (as best we can) that our hard earned dollars and time goes to a worthy cause.  To force me to pay for something that I know is largely abused denies those local to me of the better served and monitored support I could offer.
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Re: It be immoral for Congress to cut food stamps for the poor?
« Reply #9 on: April 20, 2012, 05:31:08 pm »
Deficit spending is even worse than people realize if you figure we end up paying about 40% interest on what we borrow and this greatly reduces our financial stability greatly and places us at great risk.  Think about all the money we wasted simply to paying off debt that was most likely unnecessary in the first place.  There is a line somewhere, where if we hadn't borrowed the amount and had saved where we would at least be where we are now but without any debt at all.

I'm not sure that we'd be quite where we are now, (only without the debt), without some deficit spending.  I used the word some because we haven't had a surplus, let alone a balanced budget in some time now. There's always going to be some spending cut that's unpopular with someone at any given time.  As the collquilism goes; you can't please all the people all the time but, you can please some of the people some of the time. It may be necessary for everyone to at least share the 'pain' by spreading it out somewhat evenly.

Some have suggested that it isn't the poor people's faults that they are poor, and that may be true, but it is even more true that it isn't my fault they are poor.  I should not be forced to support them, and anytime you mention the government supporting/paying for something, it is actually us that do and for less efficiency and at greater waste than we can do ourselves.  There are many of us that are charitable and give time and money and support to others, we make sure (as best we can) that our hard earned dollars and time goes to a worthy cause.  To force me to pay for something that I know is largely abused denies those local to me of the better served and monitored support I could offer.

I don't have the stats on the ratio of abuse to government subsidized programs to those who aren't abusing such however, I do get the overall impression, (from multiple sources), that it may run as high as 50/50.
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Re: It be immoral for Congress to cut food stamps for the poor?
« Reply #10 on: April 20, 2012, 06:12:30 pm »

why they do not lowest their heavy salaries,and make a balance between their nice high salaries between the public help..... ???




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I don't believe that food stamps should be cut, however maybe congress should keep closer tabs of people that are getting them.

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Re: It be immoral for Congress to cut food stamps for the poor?
« Reply #11 on: April 20, 2012, 11:26:34 pm »

why they do not lowest their heavy salaries,and make a balance between their nice high salaries between the public help..... ???

Avg congressmen salary is $174,000 a year
We spent about $78 billion on SNAP in 2011
How many congressmen do you think there are?
« Last Edit: April 21, 2012, 01:02:24 am by sigmapi1501 »

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Re: It be immoral for Congress to cut food stamps for the poor?
« Reply #12 on: April 20, 2012, 11:44:10 pm »
I don't believe that food stamps should be cut, however maybe congress should keep closer tabs of people that are getting them.

If you suspect, or have knowledge of a social services client fraudulently receiving assistance from Public Assistance, Food Stamps or Home Energy Assistance (HEAP), you should report it to the Office of Temporary and Disability Assistance.  Congress doesn't directly track or enforce prohibitions regarding fraud in these public assistance programs.
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Re: It be immoral for Congress to cut food stamps for the poor?
« Reply #13 on: April 21, 2012, 10:59:39 am »
yes it is the poor has the right to eat too

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Re: It be immoral for Congress to cut food stamps for the poor?
« Reply #14 on: April 21, 2012, 01:33:25 pm »
Food stamps aren't always for people who "won't work". A lot of families and individuals who receive it do work they just don't make enough money to purchase food and pay all of there bills.

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