Without an ultimate judge as to the good of an action the action could never be considered good.
No. An action is not good or bad because god "says so"; it could only be good or bad for some ultimate, unchanging reason, and that type of morality doesn't exist. Religious morality isn't dependent on actual reasons why something is right or wrong, it's dependent on the whims of a supernatural entity. And don't even try to tell me that your god doesn't change his mind, because that would be demonstrably false when referencing your holy book.
You have said nothing here, except to agree with me indirectly and further contend that even an eternal being couldn't decide this. Are you now changing your argument to claim there is no such thing ever as 'good'?
I never said they should be "raping, murdering thieves" and I find it odd your inclination is to use emotional base imagery.
And yet you are quick to say how, as an atheist, you would be "worse than any tyrant in history"...how is that not "emotional base imagery"? My statement was an interpretation of your opinions.
I suppose this depends on how we qualify a 'tyrant'. To you that may simply be a pathetic rapist or murder or some other lowly thug. To me a tyrant is one who seeks dominion and rule and control over others. The imagery I invoke within myself when I say things like "worse than any tyrant in history" is actually a policy of control where the subjects voluntarily seek my rule (out of their own ignorance). A good example of such a malicious and sinister method would be the healthcare bill passed by congress and signed into law by the President. That is they type of tyranny I would attempt. There would also be other measures of control where you gain power by getting others to perceive threats. It is the old foolish trade off of "some of your freedom for my guarantee of your safety" that people have always so easily fallen for. I am no artist at this and I know my declaration had a grand flare to it but that is the type of controls I would pursue (or hope I would be capable of devising, if that is I were an atheist).
it is all purely to enjoy this fleeting existence to the best that is possible.
Finally, an assumption you haven't fabricated. This holds true for at least me.
What the heck is a fabricated assumption? That doesn't even make sense, except in the form of some sort of testing analysis perhaps.
No action committed by the atheist would subject to any judgement, except by them.
Yes, because atheists are all hermits who live on deserted islands and never have to interact with another human being, ever. Do you see the fallacy in what you are saying?
The fallacy is your own, actually. The atheist does not (or should not) value the opinions of others as doing so makes you a subject to the other and that doesn't fit well within the atheist dogma. Well I suppose you could align yourself beneath a more powerful individual in order to gain, but you would never do this simply to be submissive to others. You seem to think that an atheist should be sensitive to the wishes of others and that is not logical at all.
The greatest human threat to the atheist (in a stable environment) would indeed by another atheist, the least threat would be a devoutly religious person (since the religious would be obvious and predictable).
Interesting. I suppose I should keep one eye open when sleeping in bed next to my atheist husband then, huh? And religious people are far from predictable. One cannot always tell how far off the deep end a religious person is, because each individual crafts their own godly guidelines to abide by.
I don't know about your husband, but I already told you that I think "you only think" you are an atheist. That is why I consider you a quasi atheist type. If you were both true atheists, though, I would stand by my warning and I would elaborate but fear it would fall on deaf ears. I will agree with you that the predictability of religious people cannot be certain and at times can be extreme or erratic, but this is never more than the amount that an unknown would be. It is always better to have a partial blueprint than a complete mystery.
If you are unbound by religion why do you struggle so in life?
Why in the world would you assume someone you've never met is struggling? You know nothing about the real lives of anyone on here, atheist or not.
I don't use the word 'struggle' as you seem to use it (I think you think of it in a financial way or something but this is only speculation). I said you were struggling because you waste effort here belaboring when it would never be something that a true atheist would do (I suppose one might, if it were a stepping stone to a greater pursuit, but then they would never go about it claiming to be an atheist in the first place and would likely only use it to gain a knowledge of something they find beneficial).
You want money why don't you claim what is yours by right of will? Why choose to be as sheep among people when you describe yourself as a wolf?
The only money that is mine is the money I earn, win, or share. And you are the one labeling people as wolves (when the label instead should be yours and yours alone).
You sure don't sound like an atheist using words like 'earn' and 'share'. Everything belongs to the atheist because sheep can't own things. I do not hide the fact that I am a wolf by nature, but a sheep in Christ. I was never an atheist but I was an agnostic and as an agnostic I was infinitely more of an atheist as the atheist you claim to be. Realize that my discussion with you isn't to throw ill will your way, but perhaps to throw a wrench in your cogs. You seem to enjoy making your negative and mocking remarks at my faith and seem to consider yourself some expert on the truth it of when you haven't even begun to consider the depths of what you claim you are. I would normally say do some soul searching but that would have no meaning to you so all I can say is what I did earlier and that is that you take your own inventory first before you try to take mine.