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queenofnines

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Re: there is no god?
« Reply #60 on: November 28, 2011, 07:33:25 am »
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  How about..."GOD" :D acually created the big bang himself....ummm, what a concept.. :angel11:

So the Bible is lying when it calls reference to a universe that is just 6-10,000 years old, is it?

Keep your god "a la carte" to yourself if you don't want to seem like a confused, ill-informed hypocrite.
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Re: there is no god?
« Reply #61 on: November 28, 2011, 07:36:53 am »

Try watching some history channle  or nat geo! There ARE real facts, and proof!

You don't understand what qualifies as a credible source.  Those channels contain a lot of trash about ghosts and ufos and whatnot.
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Re: there is no god?
« Reply #62 on: November 28, 2011, 06:27:33 pm »
God loves us all whether we believe in him or not.  :heart:

The Bible thumpers try and force you to believe otherwise.....


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Re: there is no god?
« Reply #63 on: November 29, 2011, 08:34:09 am »
WOW, great job.

Yes there is a God !

John 3:16  ;D  ;)

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Re: there is no god?
« Reply #64 on: November 29, 2011, 02:09:32 pm »
WOW, great job.

Yes there is a God !

John 3:16  ;D  ;)



If so, wheel that "god" on out without making dubiously vague attributions.  Can't do it but, can't stop making unsupported claims either?
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Re: there is no god?
« Reply #65 on: November 29, 2011, 08:06:00 pm »
Do I believe in myself yes,  now do i believe in a God No do i believe in a being higher than us yes i do. Now before some attack this I'll explain now with myself, I take respond able  for how and what i make my life into, i don't blame the one some of u call god or devil.  it is the choices u make.  Now with why i don't believe in a God is simple i can't believe in a God that say he loves us all no matter what then turn around and say in a bible to kill those who hav sin or worst.  Think it like this if the God u call is love and rebirth why would he want us children in his eyes to kill and hate other i think that is someone else.  Those who says u doing god work for kill and hate is not ur doing the devil's.  Now why i say being higher than us  i see it like this we gave him/her the god name, did we ask if we could or not.

Now i hope for our future is people stop thinking that separate differences in race, color, choices, religion, sex, sexual choice. We love and respected  others we stop kill each other.


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« Reply #66 on: November 29, 2011, 09:20:37 pm »
I gotta chime in on this! For me, it's easy to see there is a God.. Everything comes from something, it's that simple! I know some will argue then what does God come from... Well, for me it's easy to see that we are not meant to know where God comes from, who made him, etc. One day, if i'm meant to know these things, I will find out! Funny how life works like that. We are constantly learning as we age, all through life we learn new things each day. Even as kids, we are taught new things as we grow so our brains can process and understand new information as we age and mature into adults. Again, it's just that simple. To me it doesn't matter where God comes from or who made him, all I have to do is look around at EVERYTHING that surrounds me and know there is absolutely a God and an ultimate creator of this universe... It's pretty awesome stuff if you sit down and really ponder it for a while!  8)

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Re: there is no god?
« Reply #67 on: November 29, 2011, 09:33:45 pm »
I gotta chime in on this! For me, it's easy to see there is a God.. Everything comes from something, it's that simple! I know some will argue then what does God come from... Well, for me it's easy to see that we are not meant to know where God comes from, who made him, etc.




Following that 'line of reasoning', if there is such a thing as "god" and "everything comes from something", then either such a "god" is self-created or, something else created "god".  If such a "god" is self-created, it begs the question of circularity.  If something else created such a "god", that induces a recursive precurser argument, (e.g., what created whatever created "god"), or that "god" is an emergent phenomenon if such an entity exists.



To me it doesn't matter where God comes from or who made him, all I have to do is look around at EVERYTHING that surrounds me and know there is absolutely a God and an ultimate creator of this universe... It's pretty awesome stuff if you sit down and really ponder it for a while!  8)
 



One could just as well attribute "everything" to invisible pink unicorns therefore, such generalized attributions do not conclusively describe attributible cause and effect links.  Instead, they constitute unsupported assumptions.
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Re: there is no god?
« Reply #68 on: November 29, 2011, 10:17:09 pm »
One could just as well attribute "everything" to invisible pink unicorns therefore, such generalized attributions do not conclusively describe attributible cause and effect links.  Instead, they constitute unsupported assumptions.

I would be more apt to join a church that worships the omnipotent pink unicorn than a christ-centric religion any day of the week.
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Re: there is no god?
« Reply #69 on: November 30, 2011, 12:21:13 am »
It's funny how folks on here that dont believe always jump to sayin " prove God is real" ... That's a very dumb statement... I can say ok prove he's not real? Which I wouldn't bc that's a dumb statement just showing you how stupid it is... Also everyone that jumps to saying prove He's real... Ok welp then ur sayin that everything in this world is a big concidence how everything works together...then prove where that first atom came from... An atom had to be made to start life and the world itsself bc things are made of atoms not to mention the process after that to create a whole entire world but I won't even ask that just explain where that first atom came from... But let's just say ur sayin that an atom some how magically was made with no help of it's own..... Scientist that can do pretty much everything can still not create atoms...Now let's take the element hydrogen... It has one proton in it... Protons make up atoms which then make up elements and so on... The simplest element is hydrog and to make a proton it takes the power equal to one million light bulbs to create a proton... Now thats just part of this simplest element ... So u want to try to say that all this power came together mad a proton that made an atom that made dinosaurs and some where along the way we evolved and every thing in our body just happened to have a purpose and work perfectly lol tel that to someone else... the smartest people in the world cant make an atom but u think one just popped up one day and went on to make a whole planet... What u think the odds are of u sittin around and waitin for an atom to form by itself lol tell ya what go sit around and wait for an atom to form itself ull be waitin a long time haha that's pretty much what ur sayin... U call it luck I'll call it God but think bout it.

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Re: there is no god?
« Reply #70 on: November 30, 2011, 12:33:25 am »
I truly believe that there is a God and i also believe in life after death!

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Re: there is no god?
« Reply #71 on: November 30, 2011, 05:26:38 am »
I can say ok prove he's not real?

No you can't.  Burden of proof, for the umpteenth time.  Look it up.

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then prove where that first atom came from...

And god gets a free pass for his/her/its origin because...?  Don't you realize that saying "there has to be a first cause" and attributing that to a god solves NOTHING?!  If your Jesus can get away without having to have an "ultimate" explanation, then so can a natural occurrence.

You should really ask yourself why your satisfied with this bandaid "explanation" of a god, because it doesn't fix the gaping hole you're trying to cover up in the slightest.

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Scientist that can do pretty much everything can still not create atoms...

Ever hear of the Large Hadron Collider?  Protons (which are smaller than atoms) smashing into each other?  It may not be "creating atoms", but it's definitely in the neighborhood.  Also, scientists HAVE been able to create quarks, which are parts of atoms.

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every thing in our body just happened to have a purpose and work perfectly

What planet are you living on?  Our bodies are nowhere near perfect!  And not all of our body parts have a "purpose"...like some of the ones that are left over from EVOLUTION, ahem...ask your 'intelligent designer' about that one...
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Re: there is no god?
« Reply #72 on: November 30, 2011, 08:25:15 am »
Burden of proof??? Is this a court lol anyway I thought people did want God being shoved down their throat so we separated state and religion...

Well my bandaid opinion at least has some proo I e scroll of the dead sea stuff like that... Never ever has an atom been created and you can't tel me how... Now u can have whatever opinion u want bur callin me helically in God a band aid opinio and u satin an atom musta just popped out of a magical hat and created a world sounds a lil band aidey to me

I don't care what they dabble in or mess around almost ball Parkin whatever they want... Fact. Scientist have never created an atom and can not explain where the first one came from... I think it's dumny u believe scientist have all the money and the latest technology and still can't create an atom but ur pretty much sayin one just popped up hit up against some matter and started a whole universe lol

Our bodies are pretty perfect it's mind boggling how even if one vein out of millions messes up I mean everything has to work perfect u can cal it a coincidence I'll cal it God... And while ur at it take some notes... Evolution is somethin u believe in or not evolution is a fact it's proven... The man who brought up evolution darwin was a Christian... So what's ur point... That just shows how ignorant ur statement are and I really could care less.. Lol so if ur gonna bring up a point at least know the facts... Like I said I really don't care... U can go out side sit there he rest of ur life waitin for a atom to pop up and start evolving... Won't hurt my feelins none

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Re: there is no god?
« Reply #73 on: November 30, 2011, 03:46:17 pm »
I'm not saying I don't believe in a god but I haven't seen him, he hasn't done *bleep* for me. It's like santa, the tooth fairy, and the freaking easter bunny.

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Re: there is no god?
« Reply #74 on: November 30, 2011, 06:10:20 pm »
There is no God. All the wonders around us are accidental.
No Almighty hand made a thousand-billion stars.
They made themselves.
No power keeps them on their steady course.
The earth spins itself to keep the oceans from falling off, towards the sun.

Infants teach themselves to cry when they are hungry or hurt.

A small flower invented itself so that we could extract digitalis, for sick hearts.
The earth gave itself day and night, tilted itself so that we get seasons.
Thats the debate of life everyone believes what they want

Without magnetic poles, man would be unable to navigate the trackless oceans of water and air,
but they just grew there.
How about the sugar thermostat in the pancreas?
It maintains a level of sugar in blood sufficient for energy.
Without it, all of us would fall into coma and die.
Why does snow sit on mountain-tops, waiting for the warm spring sun to melt it, at just the right time for young crops in the farm below to drink?

A very beautiful accident?
The human heart will beat for 70 to 80 years, without faltering.
How does it get sufficient rest between beats?
A kidney will filter poison from the blood, and leave good thing alone. How does it know one from the other?
Who gave the human tongue flexibility to form words, and a brain to understand them, but denied it to all other animals?
Who showed a womb how to take the love of two people, and keep splitting tiny ovum until,
in a time,a baby would have the proper number of fingers, eyes,�ears and hair in all�the right places, and come into the world when it is strong enough to sustain life?
There is no God?......Really?

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