If you don't believe in Jesus Christ, do you still celebrate Christmas?

[falcon9]

For the most part even atheist celebrate christmas, because it's not really associated with god anymore and it wasn't really a holiday meant to celebrate jesus's birth anyway. Christmas was originally a pagan holiday called Yule.

Even further back, "yule" was a pagan winter solstice celebration, (which had nothing to do with judeo-xtianity nor, yule per se).

[JediJohnnie]

For the most part even atheist celebrate christmas, because it's not really associated with god anymore and it wasn't really a holiday meant to celebrate jesus's birth anyway. Christmas was originally a pagan holiday called Yule.

Even further back, "yule" was a pagan winter solstice celebration, (which had nothing to do with judeo-xtianity nor, yule per se).

For the millionth time,the early Christians chose Dec 25 to celebrate Christ's birth as a rival celebration against paganism.The celebration of Christmas has not and will not have any more to do paganism than that.

[falcon9]

For the millionth time,the early Christians chose Dec 25 to celebrate Christ's birth as a rival celebration against paganism.

Since you are apparently unable to pay attention; I'd already mentioned that early xtians usurped the pagan holidays in their efforts to obscure pagan celebrations/practices.  This does not show xtianity in a favorable light, (e.g., as cultural thieves).

The celebration of Christmas has not and will not have any more to do paganism than that.

You've inverted the conclusion; paganism has nothing to to with 'xmyth' because the xtians ripped-off the pagan winter solstice date to subsume paganism.  That's because xtianity is as dishonest as those xtians who tacitly support such dishonesty.

[jcribb16]

For the millionth time,the early Christians chose Dec 25 to celebrate Christ's birth as a rival celebration against paganism.

Since you are apparently unable to pay attention; I'd already mentioned that early xtians usurped the pagan holidays in their efforts to obscure pagan celebrations/practices.  This does not show xtianity in a favorable light, (e.g., as cultural thieves).

The celebration of Christmas has not and will not have any more to do paganism than that.

You've inverted the conclusion; paganism has nothing to to with 'xmyth' because the xtians ripped-off the pagan winter solstice date to subsume paganism.  That's because xtianity is as dishonest as those xtians who tacitly support such dishonesty.

Please provide proof for your statement (red.) 

[falcon9]

That's because xtianity is as dishonest as those xtians who tacitly support such dishonesty.

Please provide proof for your statement (red.) 

You're requesting a selection of references to support the contention that early xtians were dishonest in commiting such 'cultural thefts', (and that currently-extant xtians are dishonest by association)?  That can be done, if you intend on responding to the validity of the substantiation, (rather than not responding/making tangential diversions/not debating the supporting elements).  If not, it'd be a waste of time as there are numerous sources of evidence to support the 'cultural theft' contention.

[jcribb16]

That's because xtianity is as dishonest as those xtians who tacitly support such dishonesty.

Please provide proof for your statement (red.) 

You're requesting a selection of references to support the contention that early xtians were dishonest in commiting such 'cultural thefts', (and that currently-extant xtians are dishonest by association)?  That can be done, if you intend on responding to the validity of the substantiation, (rather than not responding/making tangential diversions/not debating the supporting elements).  If not, it'd be a waste of time as there are numerous sources of evidence to support the 'cultural theft' contention.

Just as I thought - you only want to challenge for answers, not answer them unless stipulated by your rules.   

[falcon9]

You're requesting a selection of references to support the contention that early xtians were dishonest in commiting such 'cultural thefts', (and that currently-extant xtians are dishonest by association)?  That can be done, if you intend on responding to the validity of the substantiation, (rather than not responding/making tangential diversions/not debating the supporting elements).  If not, it'd be a waste of time as there are numerous sources of evidence to support the 'cultural theft' contention.

Just as I thought - you only want to challenge for answers, not answer them unless stipulated by your rules.

The stipulations were based upon going to the trouble of substantiation only to have those references ignored.  The references supporting the contention are readily available nonetheless.  Would posting them change your mind?

[sparklesandglitter]

I do only because my family celebrates it. I really don't care too much about the original meaning behind December 25 either. I'm not going to single myself out from a tradition. My family is crazy so it's not even worth trying to anyways. I was raised as a die-hard Catholic. Now that I'm older and understand more about the world and questioned if what the Bible claims is actually true, I pulled away from being religious.

[falcon9]

I do only because my family celebrates it. I really don't care too much about the original meaning behind December 25 either. I'm not going to single myself out from a tradition. My family is crazy so it's not even worth trying to anyways. I was raised as a die-hard Catholic. Now that I'm older and understand more about the world and questioned if what the Bible claims is actually true, I pulled away from being religious.

That seems a reasonable approach.

[cbrown25]

I don't believe in jesus, but I do celebrate Christmas. I don't celebrate it to honor his birth or whatever, I just do it to have fun and share gifts with my family and loved ones. Holidays shouldn't be limited to religion.. I even celebrate easter, but thats only for my little sister, to make her happy. Holidays nowadays don't even really relate to jesus that much when they were made to honor him..

[queenofnines]

For the millionth time,the early Christians chose Dec 25 to celebrate Christ's birth as a rival celebration against paganism.The celebration of Christmas has not and will not have any more to do paganism than that.

And the numerous pagan customs/traditions associated with the holiday are just...a coincidence?

[sarabtrayior]

I do believe in Jesus Christ and do not buy into the crass commercialization of Christmas, I make my Christmas gifts and folks love them (and eat them immediately)!!!

[falcon9]

 

For the millionth time,the early Christians chose Dec 25 to celebrate Christ's birth as a rival celebration against paganism.The celebration of Christmas has not and will not have any more to do paganism than that.

And the numerous pagan customs/traditions associated with the holiday are just...a coincidence?

Just about as coincidental as many of the pagan ones preceding the xtian absorbtion/suppression of those customs & traditions by thousands of years?

[teflonfanatic]

No you do not celebrate Christmas if you are not a Christian. Fact is Christian have no means to celebrate no holidays considering Jesus never promoted one nor did he urge anyone to name a religion after his name. I could explain all night but this site shall fair better....http://av1611.com/kjbp/ridiculous-kjv-bible-corrections/Christmas-Trees.html....Hope this isn't offense but its the truth.

Some half truths here but some truth is better then no truth(churchianity)

1. Jesus told his disciples to continue to do this in remembrance of me referring to the celebration replacing the passover(Luke 22)

2. They got the name christians by divine providence(acts 11:26) it's possible Jesus didn't give them this name though.

otherwise everything is correct btw santa can be rearranged to spell SATAN!!!! What are the odds?

[mardukblood2009]

Yes but it is not my choice, it is my family's choice and I have to get involved.