Christian is only in the bible twice!!!

[JediJohnnie]

The word Christian is mentioned twice (Acts 26:28, and I Peter 4:16), both New Testament.

The word Christians (plural) is mentioned once in Acts 11:26, saying that Christ's disciples were called Christians FIRST in Antioch.

How can people be called Christians in the Old Testament when Christ had not come yet to bring Salvation? His death, burial and resurrection happened in the New Testament and after he arose, His followers are called Christians. The "title" was first applied in Acts, which is the birth of the church and those redeemed by the Blood of Christ. The word Christian means to be "Christ like". The saved, redeemed, blood washed, saints, heirs of Salvation, righteous, and Children of the most high, etc, are also words in the Bible referring to Christians.

The word "witness" has many meanings according to the Hebrew and Greek interpretations of the Bible. Mostly witnesses were always required at family dealings of inheritance, buying and selling, family events like weddings and deaths, etc, as well as being a witness for God.

I don't understand your hang up on the number of times a word is mentioned in the Bible and the significance of it's importance if it's mentioned many times or not. That doesn't make sense. It's the plan of Salvation that is important and saving of mankind.

Note: The hare krishna's do not follow Christ but an Indian/hindu god called krishna. Their belief does not even consider a son of God.

Very good post,Annella.The type of thinking in the original post is typical of those who want to deny the Trinity.The word is not in the Bible,yet the concept is very clearly defined in Scripture.

[Annella]

Teflonfanatic is a Jehovah's Witness and tries to plug his religion. That's okay if it's done correctly and not try to "twist" Biblical scripture to bring that about. Also not to add to it or take from it.

Example: The name Lucifer is only mentioned once in the Bible as that's the name God gave him when he was in favor with God and anointed to be the "Covering Cherub".  Now he is called the devil, satan, evil one, serpent, dragon, etc., in the Bible. A name or word in the Bible can have various meanings if you research/study it out. Also, the translation and interpretation of the language of the age it was written and take into account the customs and times of the day as the Bible covers the beginning and end of time and times.

I've noticed that I'm in D&D and do not want to be. I will leave you now and keep a better watch where I'm at.

[falcon9]

That's okay if it's done correctly and not try to "twist" Biblical scripture to bring that about. Also not to add to it or take from it.

Example: The name Lucifer is only mentioned once in the Bible as that's the name God gave him when he was in favor with God and anointed to be the "Covering Cherub".

If that was an example of twisting or, adding to it then I concur; "Lucifer" is a latin word meaning "daystar or, bringer of light".  'In Roman astronomy, Lucifer was the name given to the morning star (the star we now know by another Roman name, Venus). The morning star appears in the heavens just before dawn, heralding the rising sun. The name derives from the Latin term lucem ferre, bringer, or bearer, of light." In the Hebrew text the expression used to describe the Babylonian king before his death is Helal, son of Shahar, which can best be translated as "Day star, son of the Dawn."'

The scholars authorized by King James I to translate the Bible into current English did not use the original Hebrew texts, but used versions translated largely by St. Jerome in the fourth century. Jerome had mistranslated the Hebraic metaphor, "Day star, son of the Dawn," as "Lucifer," and over the centuries a disingenuous metamorphosis took place. Lucifer the morning star became a disobedient angel, cast out of heaven to rule eternally in hell. Theologians, writers, and poets interwove the myth with the doctrine of the Fall, and in Christian tradition Lucifer is now the same as Satan, the Devil, and --- ironically --- the Prince of Darkness.'

That's some 'twist' alright; from light to darkness.

[Falconer02]

I've noticed that I'm in D&D and do not want to be. I will leave you now and keep a better watch where I'm at.

Good. Take your child-killing witchcraft with you.

Falcon9-- it's not worth your time responding to her. She's a despicable liar and a strong supporter and promoter of faith healing (she said it cured someone of AIDS). Cancerous to any legitimate argument. Need I say more?

[teflonfanatic]

@annella: Didn't have enough room to copy your post... the number of times a word appears in the bible does denote significance, for example the tetragrammation appears more then any other name or title and a part of it is even in the phrase Hallelujah. Also for awhile followers of Christ used the term "the way" instead of Christian. For that reason I don't see the need for the word Christian to be stressed. Following Christ on the other hand should be stressed however and it is nice that they received the title "christians" by divine providence as Acts 11:26 points out(feel a bit like a jerk...) however it's still not used a lot especially compared to say resurrection which occurs 68 times, that's all i'm saying.

Also more about the belief that SOME hindu circles believe Jesus was Krishna(I don't believe this btw)

http://hinduism.about.com/od/lordkrishna/a/christ_krishna.htm

P.S. Contrary to my own belief on the word, Jehovah's Witnesses do teach that they are Christians and associate the true religion with christianity, they just believe everything else Christian is the same or similiar to the religious leaders of Jesus day.

[falcon9]

I've noticed that I'm in D&D and do not want to be. I will leave you now and keep a better watch where I'm at.

Good. Take your child-killing witchcraft with you.

Falcon9-- it's not worth your time responding to her. She's a despicable liar and a strong supporter and promoter of faith healing (she said it cured someone of AIDS). Cancerous to any legitimate argument. Need I say more?

Ah, no wonder she is doing a hasty hit-and-run retreat from D+D.  Although I haven't observed what you have regarding her pronouncements, the opportunity presented itself to convert her odd definition into a more accurate one.

[Annella]

I'm not doing a hasty hit and run in D&D. I left D&D voluntarily sometime ago by choice. I do not get into discussions anymore where there is no end to debate between Christians and non believers who have once been believers and now are haters and blasphemers of God. We are to turn from such.

I'm a Minister of the Gospel and do believe everything in the Bible including healing by Christ today. I have witnessed it numerous times over.

falcon9: You did NOT turn my definition into a more accurate one even though you want to appear all knowing in your response. You are clearly trying to refute the Bible and it's accuracy and your unbelief comes through loud and clear.

Real soon now all things will be revealed and I can hardly wait!

[falcon9]

I'm not doing a hasty hit and run in D&D. I left D&D voluntarily sometime ago by choice. I do not get into discussions anymore where there is no end to debate between Christians and non believers who have once been believers and now are haters and blasphemers of God. We are to turn from such.

You announced you were not staying. Apparently, you stayed long enough to post this excuse for not having the courage of your convictions. Stay or go, your choice. (Btw, this is "D+D" - not to be confused with Dungeons & Dragons D&D ... although I can see some similarities).

I'm a Minister of the Gospel and do believe everything in the Bible including healing by Christ today. I have witnessed it numerous times over.

I find your unsupported claim to have "witnessed" "healing by christ" to be dubious.

falcon9: You did NOT turn my definition into a more accurate one even though you want to appear all knowing in your response.

I provided the accurate translation of a latin word, (Lucifer).  You provided some vague nonsense about a "cherub" mentioned in a specious source.

You are clearly trying to refute the Bible and it's accuracy and your unbelief comes through loud and clear.

Well, at least you have a grasp of the bluntly obvious.  You are correct in that I don't believe one word from your fictional source.

Real soon now all things will be revealed and I can hardly wait!

Really?  This isn't going to be another 'doomday prophesy', is it?  When, exactly, is yours predicted to be?

[Annella]

appears in the bible does denote significance, for example the tetragrammation appears more then any other name or title and a part of it is even in the phrase Hallelujah. Also for awhile followers of Christ used the term "the way" instead of Christian. For that reason I don't see the need for the word Christian to be stressed. Following Christ on the other hand should be stressed however and it is nice that they received the title "christians" by divine providence as Acts 11:26 points out(feel a bit like a jerk...) however it's still not used a lot especially compared to say resurrection which occurs 68 times, that's all i'm saying.

Also more about the belief that SOME hindu circles believe Jesus was Krishna(I don't believe this btw)

http://hinduism.about.com/od/lordkrishna/a/christ_krishna.htm

P.S. Contrary to my own belief on the word, Jehovah's Witnesses do teach that they are Christians and associate the true religion with christianity, they just believe everything else Christian is the same or similiar to the religious leaders of Jesus day.

I remember "The Way" being popular around the 70's and 80's. It was taken from that scripture:  "Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me".  JOHN 14:6  I even remember some Bibles being published around that time with "THE WAY" on the covers instead of the word "Bible".

Some churches have their own names for their followers like: Mormons, Presbyterians, Lutherans, etc. I'm Pentecostal, or some have called us Holy Rollers, Tongue Talkers, Jesus Jumpers, etc. I don't really care, as long as my Heavenly Father knows my name and calls me His own. That's what is important.

Like I said, the word "Christian" in the Bible did not come into play until after the resurrection and the birth of the church. However the Bible refers to Christians as also: the redeemed, saved, royal priesthood, heirs to Salvation, heirs of Christ, the sanctified, the blood washed, the forgiven, and many other titles that refer to believers.

[Annella]

I'm not doing a hasty hit and run in D&D. I left D&D voluntarily sometime ago by choice. I do not get into discussions anymore where there is no end to debate between Christians and non believers who have once been believers and now are haters and blasphemers of God. We are to turn from such.

You announced you were not staying. Apparently, you stayed long enough to post this excuse for not having the courage of your convictions. Stay or go, your choice. (Btw, this is "D+D" - not to be confused with Dungeons & Dragons D&D ... although I can see some similarities).

I'm a Minister of the Gospel and do believe everything in the Bible including healing by Christ today. I have witnessed it numerous times over.

I find your unsupported claim to have "witnessed" "healing by christ" to be dubious.

falcon9: You did NOT turn my definition into a more accurate one even though you want to appear all knowing in your response.

I provided the accurate translation of a latin word, (Lucifer).  You provided some vague nonsense about a "cherub" mentioned in a specious source.

You are clearly trying to refute the Bible and it's accuracy and your unbelief comes through loud and clear.

Well, at least you have a grasp of the bluntly obvious.  You are correct in that I don't believe one word from your fictional source.

Real soon now all things will be revealed and I can hardly wait!

Really?  This isn't going to be another 'doomday prophesy', is it?  When, exactly, is yours predicted to be?

All you have to do is check the history in D&D to know I have the courage of my convictions. However, I do not discuss or debate with unbelievers or those who do not believe the Word of God. I will witness to someone who is hungry or searching but have no time for those who want only to blaspheme God and take any opportunity to put down Christians or their beliefs of which they count sport.

I'm not a doomsday prophet but anyone can see that our world is in trouble and things are about to get worse. Nobody knows the day or the hour, but believers are not ignorant of the signs manifested in the days we are living and the correlation of Biblical prophesy. The unbelievers will scoff until that time takes them unaware and then it's too late.

Since you do not believe the Bible, anything I post would be moot, so have a nice evening..........I'm out.

[falcon9]

All you have to do is check the history in D&D ...

No history of your posts can be found in the current D&D forums.  If, however you are referring to D+D, I haven't looked at any of your old posts as yet.  Presumably, they are much like your current posts in that you eschew actual "debate + discussion" in order to evangelicize instead.

... to know I have the courage of my convictions. However, I do not discuss or debate with unbelievers

If you are unwilling to discuss or debate your convictions, perhaps you fear that they cannot withstand reasoned dispute.

I will witness to someone who is hungry or searching but have no time for those who want only to blaspheme God and take any opportunity to put down Christians or their beliefs of which they count sport.

As previously mentioned, this forum is D+D, not 'witness & evangelize'.  Debate & discussion isn't necessarily a "sport" however, it might be a bit unsporting to point out that xtians are nominally unable to support their blind faith.

I'm not a doomsday prophet but anyone can see that our world is in trouble and things are about to get worse. Nobody knows the day or the hour, but believers are not ignorant of the signs manifested in the days we are living and the correlation of Biblical prophesy. The unbelievers will scoff until that time takes them unaware and then it's too late.

Perhaps you are unaware of numerous prior predictions of such 'end times signs' which fell somewhat short of manifesting the end or, maybe you aren't.  Either way, there have always been troubled times throughout history and such predictions are often scoffed at because they haven't come about.  Are you completely unable to consider the possibility that 'biblical prophesy' is vague and inaccurate? <-- moot question

Since you do not believe the Bible, anything I post would be moot, so have a nice evening..........I'm out.

Since the "bible" is a collection of parables and unsubstantiated declarations, (false claims), anything I post in refutation would have to be remain unseen by blind faith.

[teflonfanatic]

appears in the bible does denote significance, for example the tetragrammation appears more then any other name or title and a part of it is even in the phrase Hallelujah. Also for awhile followers of Christ used the term "the way" instead of Christian. For that reason I don't see the need for the word Christian to be stressed. Following Christ on the other hand should be stressed however and it is nice that they received the title "christians" by divine providence as Acts 11:26 points out(feel a bit like a jerk...) however it's still not used a lot especially compared to say resurrection which occurs 68 times, that's all i'm saying.

Also more about the belief that SOME hindu circles believe Jesus was Krishna(I don't believe this btw)

http://hinduism.about.com/od/lordkrishna/a/christ_krishna.htm

P.S. Contrary to my own belief on the word, Jehovah's Witnesses do teach that they are Christians and associate the true religion with christianity, they just believe everything else Christian is the same or similiar to the religious leaders of Jesus day.

I remember "The Way" being popular around the 70's and 80's. It was taken from that scripture:  "Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me".  JOHN 14:6  I even remember some Bibles being published around that time with "THE WAY" on the covers instead of the word "Bible".

Some churches have their own names for their followers like: Mormons, Presbyterians, Lutherans, etc. I'm Pentecostal, or some have called us Holy Rollers, Tongue Talkers, Jesus Jumpers, etc. I don't really care, as long as my Heavenly Father knows my name and calls me His own. That's what is important.

Like I said, the word "Christian" in the Bible did not come into play until after the resurrection and the birth of the church. However the Bible refers to Christians as also: the redeemed, saved, royal priesthood, heirs to Salvation, heirs of Christ, the sanctified, the blood washed, the forgiven, and many other titles that refer to believers.

I agree with all of this and your right christian wasn't used until after the resurrection occured(actually long after the resurrection...),  however before that it was called the way(not trying to downplay the word christian however especially after you showed me Acts 11:26  )

Acts 9:1-2 reads 9 But Saul, still breathing threat and murder against the disciples of the Lord, went to the high priest 2 and asked him for letters to the synagogues in Damascus, in order that he might bring bound to Jerusalem any whom he found who belonged to The Way, both men and women.

Other examples Acts 19:9

P.S. I just realized the phrase "the way" is used as much as Christian at least in the religious since, i've truly made a fool of myself 

[Falconer02]

Ah, no wonder she is doing a hasty hit-and-run retreat from D+D.  Although I haven't observed what you have regarding her pronouncements, the opportunity presented itself to convert her odd definition into a more accurate one.

It's kind of a long story, but most of the 'veteran' users here know of her (literally) evil ways and she wasted a lot of time with praising and promoting witchcraft, exhaggerating claims of others (who had to come back into the thread and set the story straight), lying left and right, causing verbal fights when met with basic skepticism of her claims, etc etc.
I know we're supposed to be respectful of other users on this forum, but if you were there when it happened, you probably wouldn't even be posting back to her due to the wretched and adamantly-arrogant behavior. Furthest from a decent voice for Christianity. 

All you have to do is check the history in D&D to know I have the courage of my convictions. However, I do not discuss or debate with unbelievers

If you are unwilling to discuss or debate your convictions, perhaps you fear that they cannot withstand reasoned dispute.

Case in point. Don't tap the rabid dog even if you have a +3 sword.

[Annella]

Ah, no wonder she is doing a hasty hit-and-run retreat from D+D.  Although I haven't observed what you have regarding her pronouncements, the opportunity presented itself to convert her odd definition into a more accurate one.

It's kind of a long story, but most of the 'veteran' users here know of her (literally) evil ways and she wasted a lot of time with praising and promoting witchcraft, exhaggerating claims of others (who had to come back into the thread and set the story straight), lying left and right, causing verbal fights when met with basic skepticism of her claims, etc etc.
I know we're supposed to be respectful of other users on this forum, but if you were there when it happened, you probably wouldn't even be posting back to her due to the wretched and adamantly-arrogant behavior. Furthest from a decent voice for Christianity. 

All you have to do is check the history in D&D to know I have the courage of my convictions. However, I do not discuss or debate with unbelievers

If you are unwilling to discuss or debate your convictions, perhaps you fear that they cannot withstand reasoned dispute.

Case in point. Don't tap the rabid dog even if you have a +3 sword.

The disciple is not above his master, nor the servant above his Lord. It is enough for the disciple that he be as his master, and the servant as his Lord. If they have called the master of the house (Jesus) Beelzebub (a devil), how much more shall they call them of his household? Fear them not therefore: for there is nothing covered, that shall not be revealed, and hid, that shall not be known. What I tell you in darkness, that speak ye in light: and what ye hear in the ear, that preach ye upon the housetops.

Matthew 10:24-27

[falcon9]

It's kind of a long story, but most of the 'veteran' users here know of her (literally) evil ways and she wasted a lot of time with praising and promoting witchcraft, exhaggerating claims of others (who had to come back into the thread and set the story straight), lying left and right, causing verbal fights when met with basic skepticism of her claims, etc etc.

Well, I'm a veteran of some of the 'roughest' usenet newsgroups extant and have seen such 'trolling' before, (even if I haven't been here long enough to see but a few example's of hers).  It's odd however, that you've mentioned witchcraft twice in reference to someone who claims to be a xtian minister now.  That's a helluva paradigm shift!

I know we're supposed to be respectful of other users on this forum, but if you were there when it happened, you probably wouldn't even be posting back to her due to the wretched and adamantly-arrogant behavior. Furthest from a decent voice for Christianity.  

As I'd mentioned, I've probably seen as bad or worse in the alt.* usenet hierarchy.  Though I appreciate the heads-up, man.

All you have to do is check the history in D&D to know I have the courage of my convictions. However, I do not discuss or debate with unbelievers

If you are unwilling to discuss or debate your convictions, perhaps you fear that they cannot withstand reasoned dispute.

Case in point. Don't tap the rabid dog even if you have a +3 sword.
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What's she going do, thump a bible loudly at us here?  Whoops, she did indeed in 'reply' to your post, (albeit, it didn't directly relate to the content of your post but then, I have seen that particular ruse before too).