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Re: daily Bible verse
« Reply #1125 on: September 24, 2012, 11:43:25 pm »
I just wanna conclude with one last statement.

Over 40 years ago i was at a JWs assembly at Yankee Stadium.Id say there were 20000 present at least.They conclude their assemblys and meetings with a song and end with a prayer.The song was titled "WE thank you Jehovah"As that song was being sung the spirit that was in that stadium made me think.....if Jehovah isnt God....then God doesnt exist.

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Re: daily Bible verse
« Reply #1126 on: September 24, 2012, 11:49:10 pm »
Colossians 2:18-19 – Do not let anyone who delights in false humility and the worship of angels disqualify you....

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Re: daily non-biblical inversions
« Reply #1127 on: September 24, 2012, 11:54:47 pm »
There's a phenomenon which can occur at many sporting, (and other), events; sometimes referred to as an 'event egregore'.  The phenomenon occurs when several people, (even thousands), are focused upon one central concept.  They may be yelling/chanting/singing/etc. together and experience an emotional sense of commonality which they mistake for a 'mystical' experience.  The reason it is a mistaken notion is because all of those people remain individuals with separate conceptions of what was experienced, (which should tell them that it wasn't the same experience for everyone but, that's what both self-delusion and a sense of wanting to be included in some group will do).

I just wanna conclude with one last statement.

Over 40 years ago i was at a JWs assembly at Yankee Stadium.Id say there were 20000 present at least.They conclude their assemblys and meetings with a song and end with a prayer.The song was titled "WE thank you Jehovah"As that song was being sung the spirit that was in that stadium made me think.....if Jehovah isnt God....then God doesnt exist.
One can lead a horse to water however, if one holds the horse's head under, that horse will drown.

             

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Re: daily bible inverse
« Reply #1128 on: September 25, 2012, 10:12:00 am »
Falcon...when you are able to leave your house & wheelchair and might be around others,i was wondering...are you this rude too?

I guess others would let you cut in due to your handicap.Or get run over!!<snicker>

Speaking of being rude, would you enjoy being made fun of if you had a disability?  Is this the way you "love" your enemies, as Jesus would have you to do?  Wow, your true colors are slipping out - be careful what you say - things have a way of coming back around to bite and haunt you.

Although I could point out that, under the "golden rule's" inherent stipulations, I could return 'trailer-hitch's' rudeness and 'make fun' of the severe mental disabilities he's demonstrated here, instead I'll indicate that Steven Hawking resides in a wheelchair.  Hawking is easily nine times more intelligent than 'trailer-hitch' but then again, so is a bucket of wet sand.
I didn't realize that Hawking resides in a wheelchair.  Do you know if it's permanent or temporary, or what happened?

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Re: daily non-biblical inverse
« Reply #1129 on: September 25, 2012, 10:18:07 am »
“I think flying planes into a building was a faith-based initiative. I think religion is a neurological disorder.”
~ Bill Maher
Believers don't worship a religion; and the "faith-based" initiative he is speaking of sure doesn't represent the loving God, but rather evil intentions within their world of making and interpretation.  None of us will ever forget that nightmare of a day, especially those who survived, and those who helped rescue others, and those who had family/friends who were killed, maimed, or survived.  That particular religion is more of an evil "neurological disorder."

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Re: daily Bible verse
« Reply #1130 on: September 25, 2012, 10:56:11 am »
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I didn't realize that Hawking resides in a wheelchair.  Do you know if it's permanent or temporary, or what happened?

Hawking has a neuro-muscular dystrophy that is related to amyotrophic lateral sclerosis, a condition that has progressed over the years and has left him almost completely paralysed.

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Over 40 years ago i was at a JWs assembly at Yankee Stadium.Id say there were 20000 present at least.They conclude their assemblys and meetings with a song and end with a prayer.The song was titled "WE thank you Jehovah"As that song was being sung the spirit that was in that stadium made me think.....if Jehovah isnt God....then God doesnt exist.

"Stay Alive in '75" ring a bell? It was another false prophecy brought about by your religion about 40 years ago. People sold their houses and posessions because they thought the world was going to end. Did the JW's help these poor gullibles after it didn't? Nope. Where was "the spirit" then? Why did the WTBTS then switch it to a later date and then eventually say "Oh we don't know because god is mysterious!"? You obviously like to cherry-pick the parts of your religion that you like rather than face the horrible truth that your cult is based upon lies and thievery. Heck, even the founder of it was a snake-oil salesman who had a fascination with pyramidology (thus all the speculative false dates in the JW timeline). The delusionals are always the most gullible.

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Re: daily Bible verse
« Reply #1131 on: September 25, 2012, 11:04:02 am »
Jcribb...if you dont mind me asking,what sect are you?

Neutrality isnt meant that i should not defend myself or my family as ive said.Look if you wanna salute the flag be my guest.And quit kissing Falcons backside...isnt it obvious to you hes a self centered individual who has no use for a Creator?

Im sure your true colors come out too that ive shown ive supported Jehovahs organization.

You interpet the bible as you see it.I dont see you agreeing with anything i learned from bible with Gods organization.

Come clean....do you celebrate xmas,Easter....are you against blood transfusions?You believe in trinity?You going to heaven when you die?

Comments?
Whoa, there, slow down a minute!!  Neutrality is one thing when it's done accordingly.  For the record, I do not "kiss Falcon's backside," nor does he mine, but just because he doesn't believe in God, doesn't give you nor me the right to pick on him or others as an individual, in real life, especially if a disability is involved.  Isn't that God's command - to still love those who we don't agree with?  You aimed mockery at a disability, whether at him or someone else, and it wasn't the least bit funny.  Do you really think people with disabilities are enjoying them?  And back to Falcon, he's a very real person, just as you are and I am.  We all have feelings, views, ideas, etc., and while things get heated in here, we are still people who should, at the very least, show respect for the person as a human being.

Why should my true colors come out towards you just because you are a JW and think I have ought against you?  That is your choice to choose that, not mine.  We serve the same God, so what's wrong with that?  Is it because our interpretations differ in some areas, or differences in celebrating/not celebrating Christmas and Easter?  As long as we have Christ in our hearts, and love God the Father, then that is the first and main thing we should have in common.  Then living our lives the best we can, according to God's Word, under Christ's command to love your neighbor as yourself, is next.  If your neighbor doesn't love you back, hates you, or tries to kill you (I'm speaking, not just neighbors next door, but anywhere in our community, nation, countries, etc.) and being kind is not going to save you, then yes, you need to stand up and protect yourself and whoever else needs protecting.  We aren't the ones trying to do the killing, yet if we do kill someone when trying to protect ourselves, family, friends, countrymen, etc., then we are still within the will of God.

I do celebrate Christmas and Easter, from a Christ-centered point of view, and partially from the secular view.  Does that make me dirty since you wanted me to "come clean?"  When a child, I believed in Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, the Tooth Fairy, as many children do.  Our children, too.  However, within the age of understanding, they also learned the Biblical meaning/celebration of Christmas and Easter, as I eventually did.  We tied the "It's more blessed to give than to receive" in with the gift-giving and receiving - as fun and neat as it is to receive, it's a great feeling deep inside to see how people react to the gifts they receive from us.  How it ties in with God giving His son as a gift to us, for the free gift of salvation, and eternity in Heaven, after Christ gave His Life for us.  That Christ did not remain a baby but eventually died on the cross for all sin, and rose again that 3rd day (Easter.)  Apparently, you see this differently, and that is your choice - I'm not going to knock anyone who feels they are doing what they are supposed to be doing, unless it is letting someone get harmed by doing nothing (ex. - protecting others during war instead of not helping when needed.)

Yes, I believe in the Trinity - God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit.  If you don't, that's your decision.  And yes, I am going to Heaven when I die - are you?

Yes, I believe in blood transfusions, if they will help someone's life - do you?

Overall, believing in God, through Christ, is the main thing.  Loving your enemies is a command, including those who may have disabilities - they should not be made fun of.  You never know - one day people may have to suffer what they picked on others about - then they will truly understand what that person is going through.  That would be a hard lesson, though.

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Re: daily Bible verse
« Reply #1132 on: September 25, 2012, 11:05:52 am »
Isaiah 40:31
But those who wait on the LORD shall renew their strength; They shall mount up with wings like eagles, They shall run and not be weary, They shall walk and not faint. (NKJV)
This one is a favorite of mine - I've leaned on this verse a lot in the last few years.  :)

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Re: daily Bible verse
« Reply #1133 on: September 25, 2012, 11:13:58 am »
Also...whats Gods name Jcribb?

Does your bible have a Psalms 83:18 in it?

Does your bible say what Jesus said "i have made your name known,the only true God and the one you sent forth"....or was Jesus talking to himself if you feel Jesus is God?

See i can go on and on and the more i show you truths the madder you will get.Jesus said  they will hate you too on account of me.

Is your sect fulfilling Math 24:14 all over the world?Like Gods people are?

Psalm 83:18

18 "Let them know that you, whose name is the Lord—
    that you alone are the Most High over all the earth."

I'm really not sure what point you are trying to make with this verse - it's pretty clear that God (our Lord) is the Most High over the earth.  And I totally agree that many people do not like believers in God because of the very fact of believing in and having faith in One that cannot be seen (yet.)  I'm one of those not liked.  So what's the big deal?  What should be making me mad?  You are not making sense at all.


Matthew 24:24

New International Version (NIV)

24 "For false messiahs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect."

Just what are you saying here?  God's Word is clear that there have been, is, and will be false messiahs and prophets.  I am one of God's people and am not fooled by these false people.  Are you? 

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Re: daily Bible verse
« Reply #1134 on: September 25, 2012, 11:20:01 am »
And this is for Jcribb again......when Jesus saw the people turned His fathers place of worship into a Johns Bargain store righteous anger came out from him.

So if you feel ive been a little huffy its for the sake of defending a cause im proud to be a part of and appreciate the love i have been shown.

The neutrality issue......Jesus said to love your enemies and when he scolded Peter...if that isnt enuff to convince you then go worship your flag...you arent a true xtian......sorrry
A true believer in Christ would not say the things you are saying, such as "you aren't a true xtian....sorrry."  Just because we may not agree on interpretation of certain issues, does not mean neither of us are believers in God.  Christians/believers can agree to disagree on some things, but I would never say you aren't a true Christian just because you don't see eye to eye with my feelings on certain matters. 

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Re: daily bible inverse
« Reply #1135 on: September 25, 2012, 11:25:05 am »
I think freedom of religion is a crock

That's probably because you want your particular brand of faith-based superstitious belief to be the only one, (as your comments below reveal).  That's a bit insulting to those who have different religious blind faith in their empty beliefs.


What right does man have in deciding how his Creator wants to be served or obeyed?
Its like if u have children and they decide to tell their parents who the boss is or whats right and whats wrong.

Who gets to decide what some hypothetical "creator" says, some religious fanatics who 'believe' a "g-d" talked to/'inspired' them?  If there were an alleged supernatural egregore, why rely upon those "children" to interpret some hearsay supposedly from a "parent"? Your objections defeat your own premise.  That's unsurprising, given your blind faith and underlying severe mental disabilities you've produced in evidence.
Although I disagree with the words "religious blind faith in their empty beliefs," I would like to say two things here.  First, I could not help but to chuckle when I read it (even though it's not the way I see it for myself, lol,) and next, I just want to say thank you for saying that, because it is indeed, an insult to others, who simply don't agree with some of his views on this.

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Re: daily Bible verse
« Reply #1136 on: September 25, 2012, 11:31:59 am »
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I didn't realize that Hawking resides in a wheelchair.  Do you know if it's permanent or temporary, or what happened?

Hawking has a neuro-muscular dystrophy that is related to amyotrophic lateral sclerosis, a condition that has progressed over the years and has left him almost completely paralysed.

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Over 40 years ago i was at a JWs assembly at Yankee Stadium.Id say there were 20000 present at least.They conclude their assemblys and meetings with a song and end with a prayer.The song was titled "WE thank you Jehovah"As that song was being sung the spirit that was in that stadium made me think.....if Jehovah isnt God....then God doesnt exist.

"Stay Alive in '75" ring a bell? It was another false prophecy brought about by your religion about 40 years ago. People sold their houses and posessions because they thought the world was going to end. Did the JW's help these poor gullibles after it didn't? Nope. Where was "the spirit" then? Why did the WTBTS then switch it to a later date and then eventually say "Oh we don't know because god is mysterious!"? You obviously like to cherry-pick the parts of your religion that you like rather than face the horrible truth that your cult is based upon lies and thievery. Heck, even the founder of it was a snake-oil salesman who had a fascination with pyramidology (thus all the speculative false dates in the JW timeline). The delusionals are always the most gullible.
Thank you for what has happened with Hawking.  That's a real shame.  I feel for anyone who has to daily go through the struggles of that, and so many more disabilities.  I have my own health issues that affect breathing and have pain from a couple of diagnoses, and just really feel compassion for others who struggle with painful conditions.

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Re: daily Bible verse
« Reply #1137 on: September 25, 2012, 02:00:47 pm »
Isaiah 40:31
But those who wait on the LORD shall renew their strength; They shall mount up with wings like eagles, They shall run and not be weary, They shall walk and not faint. (NKJV)
This one is a favorite of mine - I've leaned on this verse a lot in the last few years.  :)
Yes, one of my favorites as well.   :heart:

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Re: daily bible inverse
« Reply #1138 on: September 25, 2012, 02:01:58 pm »
I didn't realize that Hawking resides in a wheelchair.  Do you know if it's permanent or temporary, or what happened?

Hawking has a motor neurone disease related to amyotrophic lateral sclerosis, a condition that has progressed over the years. He is now almost entirely paralysed and communicates through a speech generating device.
One can lead a horse to water however, if one holds the horse's head under, that horse will drown.

             

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Re: daily Bible verse
« Reply #1139 on: September 25, 2012, 06:05:49 pm »
Falcon,the 1975 ending of the world a real crock and NOT bible supported.You claim to know bible but obviously dont.Dont you remember Jesus saying only the father knows the end of the system?So wouldnt discernment tell you how would a mere mortal know?There are wolves among the sheep...get  it? of them


Jcribb thanx for answering and i wasnt a bit surprised by your answers.The bible doesnt support any of them.Many scriptures show how God feels aboute eating blood.12/25 a pagan holiday.Jesus only said to memorialize his death NOT his birth.God intended for us to live forever on earth and that will be fulfilled.Only 144000 rule with Jesus in heaven.
 
Lord & god are titles.God has a personal name that means He causes to become.

You dont need to answer back i dont want this to turn into a debate.The Watchtower society has many publications that breakdown bible if u r interested.Mathew 24:14 being fulfilled for many years about preaching work.You never said what sect you are.

 

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