daily Bible verse

[falcon9]

While it's true, you are answering a response I made, even though it wasn't directed at you or for your benefit, the response is still directed to like believers who choose to read it. 

Unless specific members/non-members are addressed, these posts are simply pronouncements which can be read, not read, ignored or replied to.  These options remain regardless of 'whomever' such unspecified addressee they're intended for.
 

You can respond and tell me you oppose it - so noted, but beyond that, I will not stop posting in here with others, just because you don't like it.  You don't have to like it.

Show me where I've stated/implied/suggested that you or anyone else cease posting to the forums rather than assume such things.

And like the way you throw up that people are "recommended" to use the "ignore" button with you ...

I doubt that you do.
 

... likewise - you can choose to "ignore" as well or you can choose to not come in the thread -

You forgot to mention the option to post an opposing viewpoint to something in contention ... surely that was an oversight and not another implicit attempt to silence such viewpoints?

... the thread doesn't apply to you with your no-belief anyway, so naturally you won't enjoy taking part in the inspiration of the verses.  But, since you do choose to come in and post, like anyone else can, you will also be responded to with your remarks and how they are disrespectful.

Unfortunately for such attempts to control the content of the posts of others though transparent coercions, I'll choose where and what to post.  As long as such posts remain within the FC TOS, you don't have to like them or read them.  Those are your choices.

No one is Bible-thumping, just sharing verses. 

"Bible-thumper: noun Informal -
 an evangelist or other person who quotes the Bible frequently, especially as a means of exhortation or rebuke."
-- dictionary.com
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[constance312003]

Thy Word is a lamp unto my feet and a light unto my path -Psalms 119:104

[jcribb16]

Quote from: jcribb16 on Today at 02:19:31 pm
... the thread doesn't apply to you with your no-belief anyway, so naturally you won't enjoy taking part in the inspiration of the verses.  But, since you do choose to come in and post, like anyone else can, you will also be responded to with your remarks and how they are disrespectful.

Quote from: falcon9:
Unfortunately for such attempts to control the content of the posts of others though transparent coercions, I'll choose where and what to post.  As long as such posts remain within the FC TOS, you don't have to like them or read them.  Those are your choices.

I'm not controlling them - I'm asking that you please show respect to people who do not believe as you do - they believe in Christ and want to share verses.  It's not a stomping ground for you to come in and ugly up a thread like you do when people are posting verses.  We ALL can post when and where we choose - I have already said that.  But, you push the boundaries of the rules when it comes to respect, mainly towards Christians.  The same choices to you, sir - you disrespect like you do, then someone, including myself, will come and challenge you on your disrespect.  You, in turn, don't have to like them, either, but they will be said, in support of others at the receiving end of the disrespect.  No one is telling you that your "thoughts" of no God existing, are irrational, foolish, delusional, etc., and would only ask for the same respect. 

[falcon9]

Thy Word is a lamp unto my feet and a light unto my path -Psalms 119:104

The idea of a "deital" 'hotfoot' is pretty humorous, thanks for that image.

[falcon9]

I'm not controlling them -

I stated "attempt" in that context, (however doomed to failure such attempts are).

I'm asking that you please show respect to people who do not believe as you do -

Why, when such people show no respect for others who do not believe as they do by constantly proselytizing their beliefs in making hundreds  of such bible-thumping quotes?  As previously reiterated; if xtians can bible-thump, otehrs can post dissenting viewpoints regarding such thumpings.

 It's not a stomping ground for you to come in and ugly up a thread ...

Wow, now it's characterized as "ugly up a thread"[sic]? This 'telegram' had already been delivered but, apparently your dog must have signed for it: 'these forums are not some exclusive xtian countrycub', (or, "stomping grounds", if you prefer).  All of these forums are the property of FC, including Off Topic and Debate & Discuss.  It's unclear why you remain unable to grasp this simple concept and then post as if you do.

We ALL can post when and where we choose - I have already said that.  

Then why are you repeatedly treating this Off Topic thread as if it were some exclusive xtian stomping-grounds/countryclub by waving that "disrepect flag" around when non-xtians dissent in this thread?  That's not rational; it's an emotional response.

No one is telling you that your "thoughts" of no God existing, are irrational, foolish, delusional, etc., and would only ask for the same respect.

Whoa, nellie ... where have I posted "of no God existing"?  There's hundreds of other posts where xtian claims of g-d existing are challenged and left unanswered with substantive and directly-attributable evidence, (as opposed to non-evidentiary "faith/beliefs"), but no assertions of the sort you've just attributed to me, (sans evidence of a quoted post I never made).  Again, respect is earned, not given out like "salvation" in a confession booth.

[jcribb16]

It's true, on one hand, that respect is earned.  However, as children, most parents instill in them that respect is to be given.  People posting Bible verses are not "disrespecting" you.  You are the one coming in disrespecting their posts with your nonsensical answers and ridiculous pictures, which are not dissenting views with rebuttals and conversation.  They are put-downs, and are disrespectful.  Then you want to be treated respectfully when you disrespect posters of the verses. 

You make your comments and only agitate the thread.  That's why others respond back to you regarding your disrespect.  You haven't earned respect from others, since that's how you worded it, because you are not respectful to Bible verse posters.  I see you still refuse to grasp the simple concept of that, since you want to make others seem like they have no smarts.

 It is not okay to be so rude to people posting Bible verses and then expect respect back.  Posters are still trying to be respectful in response to your posts, asking you to stop being so rude, yet you choose to okay yourself with what you are doing.  So then when some get upset, you still don't have the nerve to see and admit to your disrespect and continue right on anyway.  You are only making yourself look like the disrespectful poster towards Bible posters, that you are.  You are Bible-bashing when you come into a Bible verse thread and do what you enjoy doing.  It's also "trolling" when you know good and well you normally have nothing to do with reading and studying Bible verses, and then come into a thread with the disrespect towards posters deliberately. 

[falcon9]

It's true, on one hand, that respect is earned. 

No, it's true on both hands; respect is earned because if it's given without being earned, it's a disingenuous "token respect".

People posting Bible verses are not "disrespecting" you. 

When such people show no respect for others who do not believe as they do by constantly proselytizing their beliefs in making hundreds of such bible-thumping quotes, they are showing "disrepect" for those who do not believe as they do.
 

You are the one coming in disrespecting their posts ...

So, what you're objecting to are allegedly "disrespectful" subsequent responses to the initially disrespectful bible-thumping/propagandizing/proselytizing posts that prompted some subsequent replies. 

... with your nonsensical answers and ridiculous pictures, which are not dissenting views with rebuttals and conversation. 

A perusal of at least half a dozen other 'religious' threads in the debate & discuss subforum will show that many of them contain lengthy rebuttals and refutations of "nonsensical" and "ridiculous" religious claims.  Your objection is that these are not repeated in the proselytizing "bible verse" threads?
 

You make your comments and only agitate the thread. 

That may be how you deduce my intent however, since I'm the one intending that my remarks be objections to religious proselytization and xtians inherently "intend" their biblical quotes to be proselytizing, it would seem that the xtians doing so are the ones who "agitate".

That's why others respond back to you regarding your disrespect. 

What you're essentially doing is demanding "respect" for first posting disrespectful religious proselytizing, denying that those posts are proselytizing content and then claiming that replies, (subsequent responses), are "disrepectful" enough to require more disrepect from xtians.  If that's a display of your xtian 'understanding' of how "respect" works, (let alone how the sequence of events works),
I feel even more comfortable in objecting to espoused religious beliefs.

It is not okay to be so rude to people posting Bible verses ...

It's just as "okay" as the initial presumptiveness, (rudeness), of religious adherents are when they first posted "rude" biblical quotes.

You are Bible-bashing when you come into a Bible verse thread ...

 
You're bible-thumping, (proselytizing), when you initially post "bible verses" so that seems a fair exchange.   

It's also "trolling" when you know good and well you normally have nothing to do with reading and studying Bible verses, and then come into a thread with the disrespect towards posters deliberately.

Currently, there are no "daily bible-bashing" threads extant so, your premise regarding "trolling" is a false one, (unless you inadvertently-mean that the bible-thumping threads are implicitly trolling/proselytizing).

[jcribb16]

Quotes from falcon9:


"When such people show no respect for others who do not believe as they do by constantly proselytizing their beliefs in making hundreds of such bible-thumping quotes, they are showing "disrepect" for those who do not believe as they do."

"So, what you're objecting to are allegedly "disrespectful" subsequent responses to the initially disrespectful bible-thumping/propagandizing/proselytizing posts that prompted some subsequent replies." 

"A perusal of at least half a dozen other 'religious' threads in the debate & discuss subforum will show that many of them contain lengthy rebuttals and refutations of "nonsensical" and "ridiculous" religious claims.  Your objection is that these are not repeated in the proselytizing "bible verse" threads?"

"What you're essentially doing is demanding "respect" for first posting disrespectful religious proselytizing, denying that those posts are proselytizing content and then claiming that replies, (subsequent responses), are "disrepectful" enough to require more disrepect from xtians.  If that's a display of your xtian 'understanding' of how "respect" works, (let alone how the sequence of events works),
I feel even more comfortable in objecting to espoused religious beliefs."

"It's just as "okay" as the initial presumptiveness, (rudeness), of religious adherents are when they first posted "rude" biblical quotes."



You have just proven yourself.  You do NOT respect nor like nor approve of Bible verse threads.  These threads are NOT disrespectful in the least.  You don't like them - tough. FC does not have a rule saying the Bible verse threads are disrespectful to post. FC also does not frown on anyone else who post threads discussing religions, atheism, Evolution, Creation, and the like. 

No one I know is bashing you for what you believe or don't believe when it comes to God or no God - they are tired of your disrespecting their posts that have NOTHING to do with you and is OKAY with FC to POST in here.  Not everyone believes the same.  FC has rules to follow regarding respect, and other things.  They are there for you, for me, for anyone else posting in this thread.  You are provoking trouble in the Bible verse threads and it is wrong and rude of you to do this. 

[falcon9]

You have just proven yourself.

While you've continued to prove the inherent contention that you don't understand the replies given to your rants.

These threads are NOT disrespectful in the least.  

I rest my case; had you actually comprehended the sequence of posts>>replies and how bible-thumping is inherently disrespectful to those who don't share the 'thumped' religious beliefs in the thumpings, you wouldn't keep insisting that bible-thumping biblical quotes are somehow "not disrepectful in the least."

[falcon9]

Chirp 

http://iphonenews.desinformado.com/2009/11/biblethumper-iphone-app-finds-cool-bible-verses-for-atheists/

[jcribb16]

You have just proven yourself.

While you've continued to prove the inherent contention that you don't understand the replies given to your rants.

These threads are NOT disrespectful in the least.  

I rest my case; had you actually comprehended the sequence of posts>>replies and how bible-thumping is inherently disrespectful to those who don't share the 'thumped' religious beliefs in the thumpings, you wouldn't keep insisting that bible-thumping biblical quotes are somehow "not disrepectful in the least."

FC does not have a rule saying the Bible verse threads are disrespectful to post. FC also does not frown on anyone else who post threads discussing religions, atheism, Evolution, Creation, and the like. 

[falcon9]

FC does not have a rule saying the Bible verse threads are disrespectful to post. FC also does not frown on anyone else who post threads discussing religions, atheism, Evolution, Creation, and the like. 

Correct; which means FC has no specific prohibition/rule against posting dissenting viewpoints in any threads which discuss those subjects, (nor is objecting to proselytizing prohibited any more than the proselytizing is).

Now, apply that information to your whining about dissenting points of view by using emotionally-loaded falsehoods.  Right - you're unable to do so - I'd momentarily forgotten your blindspot regarding that sort of thing.


“You can not convince a believer of anything; for their belief is not based on evidence, it is based on a deep-seated need to believe.”
-– Carl Sagan

[jcribb16]

FC does not have a rule saying the Bible verse threads are disrespectful to post. FC also does not frown on anyone else who post threads discussing religions, atheism, Evolution, Creation, and the like. 

Correct; which means FC has no specific prohibition/rule against posting dissenting viewpoints in any threads which discuss those subjects, (nor is objecting to proselytizing prohibited any more than the proselytizing is).

Now, apply that information to your whining about dissenting points of view by using emotionally-loaded falsehoods.  Right - you're unable to do so - I'd momentarily forgotten your blindspot regarding that sort of thing.


“You can not convince a believer of anything; for their belief is not based on evidence, it is based on a deep-seated need to believe.”
-– Carl Sagan

"Respect for ourselves guides our morals, respect for others guides our manners."
Laurence Sterne

[falcon9]

"Respect for ourselves guides our morals, respect for others guides our manners."
Laurence Sterne

That quote was unrelated to the content replied to, unless you're tacitly suggesting that you're without "morals" and "respect", (despite any unsupported claims to the contrary)?

On the other hand, the quotes I choose are nominally directly-related to the content which is being replied to.  Even if such "subtle" distinctions elude you, they don't elude others.


"We must respect the other fellow's religion, but only in the sense and to the extent that we respect his theory that his wife is beautiful and his children smart."
-- H. L. Mencken

[JediJohnnie]

Mark 9:50

 “Salt is good, but if it loses its saltiness, how can you make it salty again? Have salt among yourselves, and be at peace with each other.”