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amyrouse

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Re: Do you support...
« Reply #15 on: April 13, 2011, 08:17:55 pm »
yea i support gay marriage because it shouldnt matter whether a man is with another man and vise verse because if you are in love with the person you should be able to marry who you wanna marry being gay is not a choice god made people that way and almost all my friends are gay and im a gay man myself and i believe everybody should be able to marry who they love man and man woman and woman  and man and women we are people to
Just to clarify a statement in there, about 'god made people that way' etc.etc.

You shall not lie with a male as with a woman. It is an abomination. (NKJ, Leviticus 18:22)

If a man lies with a male as he lies with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination. They shall surely be put to death. Their blood shall be upon them. (NKJ, Leviticus 20:13)

The Bible states it an abomination for men and women to be intimate with each other in such a manner. Therefore, God did not make us that way, we choose it - as we choose everything that we do.


Not everyone cares to follow the Word of God. Not everyone believes. It's hard to point a finger and say 'believe me, it's true!'. I didn't believe that way and I doubt anyone else would! However, if a person wants to find truth, I believe they can seek it and we'll land at the same spot, because truth doesn't change. If a person doesn't want to seek truth and just wants to do whatever he/she feels like, well, there ya go.

Either way, we should still respect one another. :)

Bubba believes that he is a gay man because g-d made him that way.  I agree with him.  Your interpretation of the Bible says one thing; mine says quite another. 

If your church does not allow gay marriage, fine.  Don't perform them.  However, when it comes to the federal government, it is pure blatant discrimination to not allow gay couples to have the same legal rights as heterosexual couples.  Bottom line.  Put whatever label you wish to upon it.  I prefer to call it equality and love.

Vienna Teng said it best in her song "City Hall":

Outside they're handing out donuts and pizza pies,
for the folks in pairs
in their folding chairs.
My baby's looking so damn pretty with those anxious eyes,
rain speckled hair,
and my ring to wear

Ten years waiting
for this moment of fate
when we say the words and sign our names.
If they take it away again someday,
this beautiful thing won't change.



Regardless of whether or not you or anyone else approves, including your interpretation of what the Bible says, people are going to love each other on their own terms, as they should.  Gay people, as American citizens, deserve the same rights as heterosexual people.  Are gay people substandard because they don't love the way a majority deems to be acceptable?  They don't deserve the same rights?  They were born that way the same a woman was born to be a woman and people of different races/cultures were born into them.  Anyone who honestly believes a gay person chooses the life of persecution and constant fear is badly mistaken.  The only choice they make is to embrace who they are and enjoy their lives to the fullest.


So, to answer the original question: yes, I am definitely in favor of gay marriage.



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« Reply #16 on: April 13, 2011, 08:22:54 pm »
Alot of people act stuck up tword Gays And lesbians. I am a lesbian myself and as long as i know im true to myself and i believe and worship my god thats all that matters. Alot people say being gay is a choice but when u really think about it did you wake up one day and so im going to be straight?? no i dont think so it what u perfer and what your comfortable with. so really all the childish ignorant people can go else were and kick rocks who are you to judge noone. and if your not paying my bills keeping a roof over my head and keeping food in my stomach you can kiss my %$# for all i care!

Rock on!  I often ask people when they claim it is a choice for people to be homosexual when they chose to be heterosexual.  Its ridiculous and discriminatory.  People fall in love with people...the genitalia is just a fringe benefit... ;)



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Re: Do you support...
« Reply #17 on: April 13, 2011, 08:26:42 pm »
no, the bible says its wrong for men to be with men and women to be with women.

Not everyone believes in the bible.

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« Reply #18 on: April 13, 2011, 08:43:23 pm »
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I support LOVE

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« Reply #19 on: April 14, 2011, 12:36:39 am »
God does not "make' gay people. This has been debated in this forum extensively. It's a choice.

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Not everyone believes in the bible.

Exactly! Therein lies the difference in opinion.
« Last Edit: April 14, 2011, 12:40:54 am by Annella »

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« Reply #20 on: April 14, 2011, 12:42:39 am »
Why can't gay people get married like the rest of the population? If they want to get married and be miserable like everyone else, then let them. Who cares? I don't think its anyone's business what two consenting adults do with eachother. Are they out murdering people? No. So, how is it hurting other people if they marry?

I think that people should mind their own business when it comes to this. Too many people sticking their nose in other peoples business these days. Oh, its a sin, omg, They're different. Eww they like other men... Screw that and anyone who thinks that way. How dare anyone judge them because of who they love. I'm not saying that anyone specifically here is acting like that, but a lot of people in this world look down their noses at others  bc it goes against their precious, man-written book, instead of thinking for themselves.

A disagreement about homosexuality has nothing to do with anyone looking down their nose at anybody. As far as our man-written book as you call it, it's called the Bible. Some of us believe in what is written within it's pages. Homosexuality (according to the Bible) is a defilement of the people and their land. It's the same today. Sinful behavior does corrupt a people, including their land/Nation.

In fact, the judgement that you are accusing believers of exercising, is so clearly evident in your post against those who believe in the Bible and it's teachings.
You are a defilement of my people and our land..........all of Turtle Island.

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« Reply #21 on: April 14, 2011, 06:35:35 am »
No, I don't.  Like sexes in a marriage is not what God created.  If you think it doesn't affect anyone else, you are sorely mistaken.  We are facing more judgement because of the abominations we are taking as acceptable.  Lord have mercy on us.
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« Reply #22 on: April 14, 2011, 07:49:53 am »
Why can't gay people get married like the rest of the population? If they want to get married and be miserable like everyone else, then let them. Who cares? I don't think its anyone's business what two consenting adults do with eachother. Are they out murdering people? No. So, how is it hurting other people if they marry?

I think that people should mind their own business when it comes to this. Too many people sticking their nose in other peoples business these days. Oh, its a sin, omg, They're different. Eww they like other men... Screw that and anyone who thinks that way. How dare anyone judge them because of who they love. I'm not saying that anyone specifically here is acting like that, but a lot of people in this world look down their noses at others  bc it goes against their precious, man-written book, instead of thinking for themselves.

A disagreement about homosexuality has nothing to do with anyone looking down their nose at anybody. As far as our man-written book as you call it, it's called the Bible. Some of us believe in what is written within it's pages. Homosexuality (according to the Bible) is a defilement of the people and their land. It's the same today. Sinful behavior does corrupt a people, including their land/Nation.

In fact, the judgement that you are accusing believers of exercising, is so clearly evident in your post against those who believe in the Bible and it's teachings.

Well, I guess if I believed in that man written book I would care, huh?

and you're right, a "disagreement" about homosexuality has nothing to do with anyone looking down their nose at anybody. But the fact that a lot of religious people do it just because of that book, is hard to miss. And I did say that A LOT of people do it, not ALL.
That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.

You can't reason someone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into in the first place.

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Re: Do you support...
« Reply #23 on: April 14, 2011, 07:52:53 am »
You are a defilement of my people and our land..........all of Turtle Island.

and it was such a beautiful island too...


Love your post. You're spot on... it's their own business and if they want to be miserable like rest of us, then so be it!!! Let them!! We all tend to judge people (sticking our nose where it shouldn't be).

Thank you. :) Yes, we as a people stick our noses where it shouldn't be all the time. I hate that people who are gay are always ridiculed and bullied, and told that they're gonna burn in hell bc its a sin. Its sickening
« Last Edit: April 14, 2011, 07:58:22 am by sflynt »
That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.

You can't reason someone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into in the first place.

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Re: Do you support...
« Reply #24 on: April 14, 2011, 08:36:31 am »
Why not?  I think that as long as the couple is happy then no one else should have a say. Not my cup of tea but why ruin someone else's happiness?

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« Reply #25 on: April 14, 2011, 01:44:44 pm »
If g-d does not make gay people, where do they come from, then? 

I've got it!  Straight people make gay people.

http://youtu.be/HwSKkKrUzUk



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« Reply #26 on: April 14, 2011, 03:58:49 pm »
If g-d does not make gay people, where do they come from, then? 

I've got it!  Straight people make gay people.

http://youtu.be/HwSKkKrUzUk


Why are there Christians? Why are there unbelievers? Agnostics? Atheists? Rapists? Child molesters? Generous people, loving people, people that believe the Bible, people who don't? etc?

Because of choice!

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Like sexes in a marriage is not what God created.  If you think it doesn't affect anyone else, you are sorely mistaken.  We are facing more judgement because of the abominations we are taking as acceptable.  Lord have mercy on us.

Some of the truest words I've ever read on this forum.

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« Reply #27 on: April 14, 2011, 04:24:29 pm »
I don't approve of it but I will not comdem them either because God tells us to love everyone not what they do.

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« Reply #28 on: April 14, 2011, 04:32:15 pm »
There are some people that I am quite aware it is not worth my time to spread reason with, because reason eludes them.  For the rest, that have the capacity to feel for other human beings and may be living under a misconception, I address you in hopes that you will understand.

People fall in love with people.  People are born with the capacity to love other people.  People are born into their sexuality.  They make choices regarding religion and the actions they carry out.  Love, though, is not a choice.  Look at your significant other, look at your child and you will know this is true deep down inside.  To ask someone to deny what is in their heart when it comes to love is the worst blasphemy, IMO.  Ask a Christian, a Jew, a Muslim not to love their g-d and they will tell you it is not possible.  Because love is not a choice.  It is a way of life.



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Re: Do you support...
« Reply #29 on: April 14, 2011, 05:24:11 pm »
i don't care what people who are adults do or who they do it with. so i guess that would be a yes

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