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vonnell60

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Re: God is a Fake
« Reply #540 on: January 04, 2012, 07:41:32 pm »
I really am realizing that God is a fake but I could create my own like a God is general that keeps everything in balance but not a personal Savior type of God.

What God do you believe in?
I myself believe in my heavenly god and i believe  that he is my personal savior some of the things thats happened to me had to come straight from god and thats my belief.

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Re: God is a Fake
« Reply #541 on: January 04, 2012, 08:04:12 pm »
I myself believe ... and i believe ... and thats my belief.



The intervening wordage was omitted to emphasize the circularity expressed.  The emphasis was made to pose this question; what would change if one did not engage in such in irrational process?
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Re: God is a Fake
« Reply #542 on: January 05, 2012, 10:13:25 am »
I believe in the God who became human and redeemed His creation by dying on a cross.  Let's dispense with the "A Diety can't die" line of reasoning mainly because it happened.  No other religion can make that claim.  If one doesn't believe in that God, which is one's decision, then one is left to create a god of one's liking.  Then you're back where you started with no god at all.  Actually what happens is you make yourself god.

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Re: God is a Fake
« Reply #543 on: January 05, 2012, 01:06:57 pm »
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I believe in the God who became human and redeemed His creation by dying on a cross. 



Although phrased as a belief, what is the rationale behind that idea?



Let's dispense with the "A Diety can't die" line of reasoning mainly because it happened. 



Actually, that isn't a "line of reasoning", it's another belief and a declaration that "it happened" is another belief.



No other religion can make that claim. 



On the contrary, the same idea came from prior pagan myths of Odin hanging from a tree for nine days to 'gain the runes' and an even earlier one concerning the Aegyptian Horus.



If one doesn't believe in that God, which is one's decision, then one is left to create a god of one's liking. 



That isn't the only option available.  If one doesn't believe in that "god", (or any "gods"), one is an atheist and there is no inherent requirement to create a "god" or, become one's own "god".
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Re: God is a Fake
« Reply #544 on: January 06, 2012, 08:41:52 am »
Just wondering, Falcon9, why you have this frenetic urge to post the responses you do - day after day, page after page.  What does it matter to you what other people believe?  I "believe" this is just your method of achieving your daily post. 

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Re: God is a Fake
« Reply #545 on: January 06, 2012, 10:33:27 am »
I really am realizing that God is a fake but I could create my own like a God is general that keeps everything in balance but not a personal Savior type of God.
 
What God do you believe in?
  To me God is my everything. If I keep my mind modervated in him I believe he will lead me and guide me from doing anything. But then if I stray from the wayside. He will be there to pick me and turn me around in the right direction. In order to feel this away. You much be born again in Christ. Know more about him by reading the Holy Bible. :wave: :angel12:

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Re: God is a Fake
« Reply #546 on: January 06, 2012, 10:42:19 am »
Just wondering, Falcon9, why you have this frenetic urge to post the responses you do - day after day, page after page. 

You have noticed that falcon9 isn't posting responses to his/her own posts, right? I mean, others (obviously) are participating in this discussion (topic), or there would be no posts for falcon9 to respond to.

What does it matter to you what other people believe? 

Likewise, what does it matter to you that other people's beliefs matter to falcon9? If this is actually the case at all.
I don't think so, I think f9's responses simply address and challenge comments/statements that people are posting.

I "believe" this is just your method of achieving your daily post.

You believe that this is f9's method to achieve daily/monthly posts: OK. And your point is.......WHAT exactly?
I've seen "methods" people use, JUST to get those posts made, that are considerably more ridiculous, with CONSIDERABLY less effort put into the posts that are made.       
                    
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Re: God is a Fake
« Reply #547 on: January 06, 2012, 11:38:39 am »
Just wondering, Falcon9, why you have this frenetic urge to post the responses you do ... (?)



I don't have a "frenetic urge" to post; it's more of a measured response to irrationality posted by others.  I don't believe you are "just wondering" about this; I'd estimate that these challenges to others are uncomfortable to contemplate because you don't like 'faith' being questioned. If you honestly look within, is this a close estimate?



- day after day, page after page.  What does it matter to you what other people believe? 



For one thing, it isn't "day after day, page after page"; I do reply to other posts, on other subject matters.  As for what others may believe, it doesn't concern me until it leaves them realm of their own minds and impinges upon a public forum where comments ensue.  Once such beliefs are made public, anyone can comment, (or not upon them).  My comments reflect a disinclination for delusions promoted by religious beliefs.  Such "beliefs" have directly lead to the deaths of millions of people, the technological impediment of millions of living people, (those who do not recall the dark ages may have to repeat them remedially), and these detriments have outweighed any 'benefits' of religious irrationality.



I "believe" this is just your method of achieving your daily post. 



As stated, people are free to hold whatever 'beliefs' they wish to hold.  It could be speculated that those expressing their 'beliefs' are doing so to acheive their 30 posts in the forums.  If so, what does it matter?
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Re: God is a Fake
« Reply #548 on: January 06, 2012, 01:47:52 pm »
You have noticed that falcon9 isn't posting responses to his/her own posts, right? I mean, others (obviously) are participating in this discussion (topic), or there would be no posts for falcon9 to respond to.



True, while I've started few topics so far, the vast majority of my posts have been responsive replies to others since I probably talk to myself quite enough already.




I think f9's responses simply address and challenge comments/statements that people are posting.



That's essentially what is done, although most of those to whom challenges are posted seem to feel that their unsupported opinions should go unchallenged.  I'm not sure why that is, unless critical thinking is uncomfortable for them.



I've seen "methods" people use, JUST to get those posts made, that are considerably more ridiculous, with CONSIDERABLY less effort put into the posts that are made. 



The speculation made sparked the converse speculation that some posters were making 'controversial' posts just to hit their 30 post mark, ("jedi johnnie" admitted to doing this himself for instance).  That's fine with me and merely emphasizes that such speculations are made in lieu of actually answering the challenges.
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Re: God is a Fake
« Reply #549 on: January 06, 2012, 02:59:47 pm »
Just wondering, Falcon9, why you have this frenetic urge to post the responses you do - day after day, page after page.  What does it matter to you what other people believe?

This is what religious people always say when a topic gets discussed "too often" by an intelligent poster.  Care to say something original for a change?
"It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring."
-- Carl Sagan

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Re: God is a Fake
« Reply #550 on: January 06, 2012, 03:04:51 pm »
Just wondering, Falcon9, why you have this frenetic urge to post the responses you do - day after day, page after page.  What does it matter to you what other people believe?

This is what religious people always say when a topic gets discussed "too often" by an intelligent poster.  Care to say something original for a change?
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Re: God is a Fake
« Reply #551 on: January 06, 2012, 03:06:02 pm »
Just wondering, Falcon9, why you have this frenetic urge to post the responses you do - day after day, page after page.  What does it matter to you what other people believe?





This is what religious people always say when a topic gets discussed "too often" by an intelligent poster.  Care to say something original for a change?





Such comments as several of those religious people made also come across as diversionary.  Rather than examine why questioning or challenging their paradigms or beliefs makes them so uncomfortable, they'd prefer to divert attention away from their own discomfort.  There may be a variety of explanations for this phenomenon however, the most common one is 'lazy thinking'.  It's apparently much easier for some to avoid reasoning than it is to reason.


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Re: God is a Fake
« Reply #552 on: January 06, 2012, 03:39:54 pm »
God is not a fake!

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Re: God is a Fake
« Reply #553 on: January 06, 2012, 04:17:09 pm »
God is not a fake!



Naturally, you can produce substantive evidence for your claim then, can't you?
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Re: God is a Fake
« Reply #554 on: January 09, 2012, 10:28:52 am »
"Far better is it to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure ...than to rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy much nor suffer much, because they live in a gray twilight that knows not victory nor defeat."
-- Theodore Roosevelt

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