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Re: God is a Fake
« Reply #135 on: July 13, 2011, 04:29:56 pm »
We all have the right to believe the way we believe but on this forum it seems like this is a bashing place. I personally believe in God and I don't have to justify my beliefs to anyone. Everyone will one day face the truth.

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Re: God is a Fake
« Reply #136 on: July 15, 2011, 09:23:54 am »
Everyone will one day face the truth.

That's a pretty pompous, hypocritical statement from someone who starts with "we all have the right to believe the way we believe".   ::)
"It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring."
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Re: God is a Fake
« Reply #137 on: August 10, 2011, 06:16:01 pm »
The atheist belief(whether you guys want to admit it or not) is making yourself a god by judging for yourself what's right and wrong.

Sorry to break it to ya, but everyone does that.  Even Fred Phelps.

Naw, not everyone does that at all.

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Re: God is a Fake
« Reply #138 on: August 10, 2011, 06:20:16 pm »
Quote from angelhome:
where does the Bible say if you get your genitals smashed you can't go to heaven? I have read the WORD many times, and never found that.

Quote from Falconer:
There are tons and tons of awkward, disgusting, horrifying, and generally evil things in the bible. After reading it, you really aren't aware? I'll just stick with 2 of the disgusting ones I know of though-
yes there are some awful things in the Bible, they are put there for us to learn - as examples.

Dueteronomy 23:1- “No one whose testicles are crushed or whose male organ is cut off shall enter the assembly of the lord"


Quote from angelhome:
NOT SURE WHERE U READ FROM BUT IN DEUT 23:1 MY BIBLE SAYS// The "Tyre" pronouncement.  Howl, you ships of Tarshish! For havoc has been wrought, not a house is left; as they came from the land of Kittim, This was revealed to them. [end]  Tyre was a sea port town. This prophecy of its overthrow is spoken of here for all its business, wealth, honour depended on its shipping; if that is ruined, they will be all undone.


Deuteronomy 23:1 does say, "He that is wounded in the stones, or hath his privy member cut off, shall not enter into the congregation of the Lord."
 
Moses wrote this book and the book itself means "second law giving."  It's written to the new generation of Israelites before going into the promised land of Canaan.  Caleb and Joshua, besides Moses, are the only ones who still lived from the old generation of traveling all this time.  This new generation needed to learn how to develop a proper relationship with God.  Joshua was also appointed as Moses' successor during this time, as well.  

Moral and legal regulations are expanded on while going through the Ten Commandments again.  In chapter 23, Moses was reviewing with these people how the law should be applied.  In verses 1 through 8, he is giving examples of ones not allowed into the congregation of that time.  These examples given include people who had either not listened to God during the travel in the wilderness, or had done things they weren't supposed to, and the ones who's family members or offspring were living in this new generation - these rules or laws were continued onto their members or offspring. They, in effect, were continuing to sow what their parents, or the grandparents, reaped.  

These verses in no way mean that we, in today's generation, cannot go to heaven for the kinds of things that happened back then.  When Jesus died on the cross for our sins, and rose again, we entered a new law, fulfilled by grace.  Those old applications of purity for entrance into the congregation of the Lord (the rules were even stricter for priests and their sons to work in the Lord's congregation) are not the same applications as of today.  You go to heaven if and when you decide to accept the Lord as Savior.  Thanks to what He did for us on the cross.


GREAT post!

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Re: God is a Fake
« Reply #139 on: August 10, 2011, 06:27:39 pm »
For those of you who are new to the D&D section, there are 2 or 3 atheists that hang out here and love to strike down any post about God. Regardless of what you say, they will accuse you of being a sheep who is trying to force their beliefs on you. Even if you say "I believe in my God and do not care who you believe in" they will still wrong you for being a Christian. They irony is that they are the ones being intolerant to Christianity. I am not saying that there are not Christians that join these threads and post intolerant comments, I am simply saying that regardless of how open and accepting we are, there are a couple atheists on the forum that will still fault you for it. That being said, if you argue with them they will call any source you use biased and claim it is not credible, but don't you dare call one of their sources the same because that would be an intolerant thing to do. If you ask them to explain something they will only say the burden of proof is not on them (which is not at all true). And if you mention the Bible they will only talk down to you in a sarcastic, uppity way. They believe they are above you by not being a Christian, and argueing with them may be frustrating, but in time you will realize they have their own problems and they can face up to them individually.

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Re: God is a Fake
« Reply #140 on: August 10, 2011, 06:28:31 pm »
We all have the right to believe the way we believe but on this forum it seems like this is a bashing place. I personally believe in God and I don't have to justify my beliefs to anyone. Everyone will one day face the truth.

Ah- this is definitely a place where a couple people hang out to bash Christians :)

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« Reply #141 on: August 10, 2011, 06:35:27 pm »
Oh- and atheism is basically just another religion. And there is a few of you who force it on every single person in this thread, hypocritical.

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« Reply #142 on: August 10, 2011, 06:47:27 pm »
People who said GOD is fake are people who have not found HIM yet.
If we are living is because God loves us :heart:

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Re: God is a Fake
« Reply #143 on: August 10, 2011, 06:58:24 pm »
Here we go again......Mack, believe it or not, the whole world is not out to get you, so perhaps you should get your bloomers out of a bunch. It is well known here that I am not atheist nor agnostic and have never had anyone in either of those categories on here give me *bleep* nor attempt to force any thing upon me. The only attempts at forced assimilation I have ever encountered have came from Christians in every single case and it is almost a daily occurrence. The is a huge difference in someone disagreeing with you and someone attacking you, really all the mellow drama is not at all becoming of you.

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« Reply #144 on: August 10, 2011, 07:48:45 pm »
Here we go again......Mack, believe it or not, the whole world is not out to get you, so perhaps you should get your bloomers out of a bunch. It is well known here that I am not atheist nor agnostic and have never had anyone in either of those categories on here give me *bleep* nor attempt to force any thing upon me. The only attempts at forced assimilation I have ever encountered have came from Christians in every single case and it is almost a daily occurrence. The is a huge difference in someone disagreeing with you and someone attacking you, really all the mellow drama is not at all becoming of you.

Please show me where I said someone was out to get me or where I called you an atheist or an agnostic and maybe we'll talk.

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Re: God is a Fake
« Reply #145 on: August 11, 2011, 05:18:52 am »
Quote from angelhome:
where does the Bible say if you get your genitals smashed you can't go to heaven? I have read the WORD many times, and never found that.

Quote from Falconer:
There are tons and tons of awkward, disgusting, horrifying, and generally evil things in the bible. After reading it, you really aren't aware? I'll just stick with 2 of the disgusting ones I know of though-
yes there are some awful things in the Bible, they are put there for us to learn - as examples.

Dueteronomy 23:1- “No one whose testicles are crushed or whose male organ is cut off shall enter the assembly of the lord"


Quote from angelhome:
NOT SURE WHERE U READ FROM BUT IN DEUT 23:1 MY BIBLE SAYS// The "Tyre" pronouncement.  Howl, you ships of Tarshish! For havoc has been wrought, not a house is left; as they came from the land of Kittim, This was revealed to them. [end]  Tyre was a sea port town. This prophecy of its overthrow is spoken of here for all its business, wealth, honour depended on its shipping; if that is ruined, they will be all undone.


Deuteronomy 23:1 does say, "He that is wounded in the stones, or hath his privy member cut off, shall not enter into the congregation of the Lord."
 
Moses wrote this book and the book itself means "second law giving."  It's written to the new generation of Israelites before going into the promised land of Canaan.  Caleb and Joshua, besides Moses, are the only ones who still lived from the old generation of traveling all this time.  This new generation needed to learn how to develop a proper relationship with God.  Joshua was also appointed as Moses' successor during this time, as well.  

Moral and legal regulations are expanded on while going through the Ten Commandments again.  In chapter 23, Moses was reviewing with these people how the law should be applied.  In verses 1 through 8, he is giving examples of ones not allowed into the congregation of that time.  These examples given include people who had either not listened to God during the travel in the wilderness, or had done things they weren't supposed to, and the ones who's family members or offspring were living in this new generation - these rules or laws were continued onto their members or offspring. They, in effect, were continuing to sow what their parents, or the grandparents, reaped.  

These verses in no way mean that we, in today's generation, cannot go to heaven for the kinds of things that happened back then.  When Jesus died on the cross for our sins, and rose again, we entered a new law, fulfilled by grace.  Those old applications of purity for entrance into the congregation of the Lord (the rules were even stricter for priests and their sons to work in the Lord's congregation) are not the same applications as of today.  You go to heaven if and when you decide to accept the Lord as Savior.  Thanks to what He did for us on the cross.


GREAT post!
Thank you!!  By the way, it's great seeing you again!  It's been awhile! :)

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Re: God is a Fake
« Reply #146 on: August 11, 2011, 05:25:55 am »
Here we go again......Mack, believe it or not, the whole world is not out to get you, so perhaps you should get your bloomers out of a bunch. It is well known here that I am not atheist nor agnostic and have never had anyone in either of those categories on here give me *bleep* nor attempt to force any thing upon me. The only attempts at forced assimilation I have ever encountered have came from Christians in every single case and it is almost a daily occurrence. The is a huge difference in someone disagreeing with you and someone attacking you, really all the mellow drama is not at all becoming of you.
It's interesting to see how people differ in their opinions.  My opinion of what she said is totally opposite of yours - I don't see any mellow drama in her post.  A lot of what she did say is of truth since it has and does happen.

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« Reply #147 on: August 11, 2011, 06:53:32 am »
I really am realizing that God is a fake but I could create my own like a God is general that keeps everything in balance but not a personal Savior type of God.

What God do you believe in?

God is as fake as you are.....
Have a wonderful day!

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Re: God is a Fake
« Reply #148 on: August 11, 2011, 12:05:20 pm »
Quote from angelhome:
where does the Bible say if you get your genitals smashed you can't go to heaven? I have read the WORD many times, and never found that.

Quote from Falconer:
There are tons and tons of awkward, disgusting, horrifying, and generally evil things in the bible. After reading it, you really aren't aware? I'll just stick with 2 of the disgusting ones I know of though-
yes there are some awful things in the Bible, they are put there for us to learn - as examples.

Dueteronomy 23:1- “No one whose testicles are crushed or whose male organ is cut off shall enter the assembly of the lord"


Quote from angelhome:
NOT SURE WHERE U READ FROM BUT IN DEUT 23:1 MY BIBLE SAYS// The "Tyre" pronouncement.  Howl, you ships of Tarshish! For havoc has been wrought, not a house is left; as they came from the land of Kittim, This was revealed to them. [end]  Tyre was a sea port town. This prophecy of its overthrow is spoken of here for all its business, wealth, honour depended on its shipping; if that is ruined, they will be all undone.


Deuteronomy 23:1 does say, "He that is wounded in the stones, or hath his privy member cut off, shall not enter into the congregation of the Lord."
 
Moses wrote this book and the book itself means "second law giving."  It's written to the new generation of Israelites before going into the promised land of Canaan.  Caleb and Joshua, besides Moses, are the only ones who still lived from the old generation of traveling all this time.  This new generation needed to learn how to develop a proper relationship with God.  Joshua was also appointed as Moses' successor during this time, as well.  

Moral and legal regulations are expanded on while going through the Ten Commandments again.  In chapter 23, Moses was reviewing with these people how the law should be applied.  In verses 1 through 8, he is giving examples of ones not allowed into the congregation of that time.  These examples given include people who had either not listened to God during the travel in the wilderness, or had done things they weren't supposed to, and the ones who's family members or offspring were living in this new generation - these rules or laws were continued onto their members or offspring. They, in effect, were continuing to sow what their parents, or the grandparents, reaped.  

These verses in no way mean that we, in today's generation, cannot go to heaven for the kinds of things that happened back then.  When Jesus died on the cross for our sins, and rose again, we entered a new law, fulfilled by grace.  Those old applications of purity for entrance into the congregation of the Lord (the rules were even stricter for priests and their sons to work in the Lord's congregation) are not the same applications as of today.  You go to heaven if and when you decide to accept the Lord as Savior.  Thanks to what He did for us on the cross.


GREAT post!
Thank you!!  By the way, it's great seeing you again!  It's been awhile! :)
   :wave: :wave: LOOKS TO ME LIKE DUTERONOMY 23-1 IS TO KEEP THE TRANS--SEXUALS OUT OF CHURCH!!

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« Reply #149 on: August 11, 2011, 12:08:59 pm »
 :wave: :wave: You will discover the REALITY OF GOD on Judgement Day!!

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