what happen to people who die, that had no use for GOd when they were living?

[travislang]

i can say this as no one is for certain what happens after we die, there is no diffenent answer on this. and yes i mean no one....

[teflonfanatic]

Yes yes our reasoning is accurate, but humans use of science is nowhere near the level of say turning water into wine.

I know you believe that be true, but I just dismiss it as a parable just as I do the S+G story. Besides, that wine must've been cheap and gross if he did it on the spot. No time to ferment! lol

Whether the wine was cheap or not it still turned into wine. To make the point clear if man wanted to they can kill 1,000's of sea creatures at the same time all over the world to turn all the world's water into blood, essentially performing their own "miracle" without the aid of God. Now how long do you think it will take to do that and what will they have to use to do that?

[jordandog]

Yes yes our reasoning is accurate, but humans use of science is nowhere near the level of say turning water into wine.

I know you believe that be true, but I just dismiss it as a parable just as I do the S+G story. Besides, that wine must've been cheap and gross if he did it on the spot. No time to ferment! lol

Whether the wine was cheap or not it still turned into wine. To make the point clear if man wanted to they can kill 1,000's of sea creatures at the same time all over the world to turn all the world's water into blood, essentially performing their own "miracle" without the aid of God. Now how long do you think it will take to do that and what will they have to use to do that?

Taking a very obvious bit of harmless sarcasm from Falconer ie the "cheap wine" as a serious comparison? These are the types of things that just blow my mind. Then you take it a step further with the sea creatures being killed in order to create a 'modern day miracle'?!

Oooh, here's one: How about hiring thousands of actors, dressing them all up to look like Charlton Heston (a la Cecil B. DeMille's film "The Ten Commandments"), and outfitting them with huge dredges and rigging booms in the Pacific Ocean to illustrate Moses parting of the Red Sea. How long do you think THAT would take without the aid of God - I already mentioned a few 'tools' they could utilize.

I am amazed at the scope of absurdity, in general, but especially in that mess. Amazed that any person would go that far in defense of obviously impossible occurences which most recognize as parables and NOT 'real'. Can you say delusional thinking?     

[ghunter]

   That person will go to hell.  If that persn lived in this world, he or she had a change to know God either by word or mouth or read or see something on TV.  Now know that God protects babies and fools so if they fit into one of those then to hell they go.

[gaylasue]

All the answers to any question you may have is found in God's Holy Word, the Bible (be sure to be careful of which version you study!).  How coincidental can it be for all of the prophecies that were made for the past 4000+/- years have slowly come to be and pass with the exception of the Lord Jesus coming back for His Church before the Tribulation Period begins.  If you aren't ready when the Lord comes, you'll get another chance to accept Him during the Tribulation Period but it will be the worse times to live through than you can ever imagine.  If you are strong enough to come through that by faith in the Lord Jesus, you will be allowed to enjoy the bliss during the Millinum Year Reign.  God Bless All and prayers for the Holy Spirit to touch your heart and life.

[mrcastro]

its interesting when you read a bible verse especially romans 6:23 because it says that being alive is a gift of god but that the price you pay for sinning is not more life or eternal life although in torment but the price is death.1jhon 4:8 says god is love and that could not be true if he tormented people eternally.

[travislang]

i find it very interesting, how can one think that it is possible for anyone or anything or ghost or spirit or energy or what ever you think god is, to part a large body of water like that, first to do so you would have to construct a wall strong enough to withstand the pressure of the water haveing on it, in other words (a DAM) is what is needed not a broom, not a spirit or ghost or whatever saying (I DEMAND THESE WATRES TO BE PARTED)

[teflonfanatic]

Yes yes our reasoning is accurate, but humans use of science is nowhere near the level of say turning water into wine.

I know you believe that be true, but I just dismiss it as a parable just as I do the S+G story. Besides, that wine must've been cheap and gross if he did it on the spot. No time to ferment! lol

Whether the wine was cheap or not it still turned into wine. To make the point clear if man wanted to they can kill 1,000's of sea creatures at the same time all over the world to turn all the world's water into blood, essentially performing their own "miracle" without the aid of God. Now how long do you think it will take to do that and what will they have to use to do that?

Taking a very obvious bit of harmless sarcasm from Falconer ie the "cheap wine" as a serious comparison? These are the types of things that just blow my mind. Then you take it a step further with the sea creatures being killed in order to create a 'modern day miracle'?!

Oooh, here's one: How about hiring thousands of actors, dressing them all up to look like Charlton Heston (a la Cecil B. DeMille's film "The Ten Commandments"), and outfitting them with huge dredges and rigging booms in the Pacific Ocean to illustrate Moses parting of the Red Sea. How long do you think THAT would take without the aid of God - I already mentioned a few 'tools' they could utilize.

I am amazed at the scope of absurdity, in general, but especially in that mess. Amazed that any person would go that far in defense of obviously impossible occurences which most recognize as parables and NOT 'real'. Can you say delusional thinking?      

The bible itself says that we were made a little lower then angels, by that I mean man which Jesus was for a time(Hebrews 2:7). Also Parables don't have real events or real names of people that Jesus knew, the whole account was a real wedding by real people Jesus knew, to say that the miracle was an added parable is lunacy.  Yes we have better understand of science so today parting water wouldn't be a big of a deal. Same as turning water into blood, but let me ask you this would it take effort to do those things? Considering the human race is millions if not billions of years old according to scientists we sure are SLOWWWWWWW.

[Falconer02]

The bible itself says that we were made a little lower then angels, by that I mean man which Jesus was for a time(Hebrews 2:7). Also Parables don't have real events or real names of people that Jesus knew, the whole account was a real wedding by real people Jesus knew, to say that the miracle was an added parable is lunacy.  Yes we have better understand of science so today parting water wouldn't be a big of a deal. Same as turning water into blood, but let me ask you this would it take effort to do those things? Considering the human race is millions if not billions of years old according to scientists we sure are SLOWWWWWWW.

[jordandog]

Falc, love the Picard pic, very appropriate!
I am still shaking my head at the absurdity.....is this guy (teflon) serious?
I repeat:DELUSIONAL.

[amyrouse]

Falc, love the Picard pic, very appropriate!
I am still shaking my head at the absurdity.....is this guy (teflon) serious?
I repeat:DELUSIONAL.

 

I can honestly say, though, that I attempt to not respond to him anymore. 

[jordandog]

Falc, love the Picard pic, very appropriate!
I am still shaking my head at the absurdity.....is this guy (teflon) serious?
I repeat:DELUSIONAL.

 

I can honestly say, though, that I attempt to not respond to him anymore. 

I agree, Amy, and was NOT responding to him until I happened to see the ridiculous stuff about killing marine life and a sea of blood. I just couldn't resist, but then my purely joking 'example' of another miracle was taken as serious and then a step futher. You're right, sista girl, I'm done.

[lynn426]

If I'm not mistaken, the reason the US fought the Revolutionary War was due to differences in thought.  When the US seceded, we formed a Constitution and Bill of Rights, including freedom of religion.  I believe we should all be tolerant of others beliefs and just try and treat each other right. 

To answer the initial question, I believe people will continue on their eternal soul journey when they "die"... although I believe death is just a transition to another place.  If a person doesn't accept God, I don't think they will be persecuted, I just think it will take them longer to reach the light.

i enjoy speaking with you mostly. i like open minded people. thanks again for your view and answer to my question. Its has shedded some light to my grey areas about death sir...

[go4thegold]

People who rejected God and had no use for him, will one day stand beofre his judgment throne, where they will be condemned to eternity in hell and the lake of fire

Good thing I don't work for your company. Those benefits suck!

ok and i say to you all if god is love and the puerest form and is suppose to imitate his love for it is perfect then why would he subject us to torment for eternity.....yes i was a christian yes i was a minister, but i realised one day i was preaching lies to my people and could not do it anymore,   now i am not knocking your beliefs just expressing my views on this, i believe that when we die we simply go between the worlds till we are ready (reincarnated) to try to get life right, when we do get it right then we become one with the universe.

Wow... I once was a believer as well.. not a minister or anything.. but I believed it all. How did you make that change? Was it difficult? Sorry, don't mean to ask so many questions, and you don't have to answer, but it was a little difficult for me. Not everyone in my circle of friends and family knows yet. and if I told them, I would never hear the end of it. To be quite honest, I don't want to hear it, or have to deal with the drama... so, I'm still workin on that.

Reincarnation has always been an interesting idea though. It could be possible.
I never understood the burning in hell for all eternity thing. I mean, what about the people who have never even heard about jesus, and they're wonderful, amazing, good hearted people? They go to hell? It just doesn't make sense to me


I think people just don't want to exept the fact that they will go to hell if they don't except Jesus Christ and that is why people flip out and try to make up these crazy escuses for things such as Why would a God who loves us send us to hell? well because God is not just a loving God but also a Just God and does Have a mighty Wrath against people that don't listen to him. The only Unforgivable sin is when people rebuke God or deny him but all that means is if you say God isn't real then you aren't going to heaven untill you accept Jesus.

[gaylasue]

I can only pray that those who haven't accepted the Lord before they perish are ready for some really hot weather because hell is real and will be an eternal bottomless pit for all of those who didn't believe.