Is *bleep* a sin in the eyes of God?

[cubarican210]

Leviticus is kind of a funny book anyway ... it also bans eating pig and shellfish, trimming the edge of your beard, rounded haircuts and wearing clothes of mixed fibers, lol. Not going to weigh in with my opinions on masturbation, just wanted to point it out. It's from the Old Testament anyway and it's debatable whether that's applicable ... so you'd want to look to a New Testament source in the first place. But that's a whole other can of worms.
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Well the 10 commandments are also found in the Old Testament. So does that mean no one has to obey them? I don't think so. The 10 commandments still have to be followed. Or unless you're ok with people murdering and stealing from other people. I'm just saying.

[tzs]

There comes a point in ones life when you do what makes you happy, which is normal, or you lie to yourself, deny your natural instincts and supress them, which makes you an empty shell for the rest of your life, and do what the bible tells you to do. Part of the reason the divorce rate is high BECAUSE NO ONE REALLY KNOWS WHAT THEY WANT, AND THEY GET ANGRY AND GO OUT AND GET IT SOMEWHERE ELSE INSTEAD OF COMMUNICATING IT WITH THEIR SPOUSE!!! So who cares what the bible says about mastrubation! If you don't know what you like before you lay down with your potential husband or wife, then whats the point of even going down that road?

The fun is finding out what you like with your husband. Not all women are so sexually experienced, you know.

But what happens if you get bored? What happens if you both like completely different things sexually, things that might repulse one or the other? That's why its good to know what you got before you settle for anything!

[marieelissa]

There comes a point in ones life when you do what makes you happy, which is normal, or you lie to yourself, deny your natural instincts and supress them, which makes you an empty shell for the rest of your life, and do what the bible tells you to do. Part of the reason the divorce rate is high BECAUSE NO ONE REALLY KNOWS WHAT THEY WANT, AND THEY GET ANGRY AND GO OUT AND GET IT SOMEWHERE ELSE INSTEAD OF COMMUNICATING IT WITH THEIR SPOUSE!!! So who cares what the bible says about mastrubation! If you don't know what you like before you lay down with your potential husband or wife, then whats the point of even going down that road?

The fun is finding out what you like with your husband. Not all women are so sexually experienced, you know.

But what happens if you get bored? What happens if you both like completely different things sexually, things that might repulse one or the other? That's why its good to know what you got before you settle for anything!

I heard talking about sex works without having to do the actual act. Let's face it, guys all like the same thing. I have just never been interested in sex and don't want to do that.

Jesus has said if you can't be like me then be married. So all you people that need sex and all that, then just be married. There are some people like myself that are perfectly fine without it.

[thechexmix]

There comes a point in ones life when you do what makes you happy, which is normal, or you lie to yourself, deny your natural instincts and supress them, which makes you an empty shell for the rest of your life, and do what the bible tells you to do. Part of the reason the divorce rate is high BECAUSE NO ONE REALLY KNOWS WHAT THEY WANT, AND THEY GET ANGRY AND GO OUT AND GET IT SOMEWHERE ELSE INSTEAD OF COMMUNICATING IT WITH THEIR SPOUSE!!! So who cares what the bible says about mastrubation! If you don't know what you like before you lay down with your potential husband or wife, then whats the point of even going down that road?

The fun is finding out what you like with your husband. Not all women are so sexually experienced, you know.

But what happens if you get bored? What happens if you both like completely different things sexually, things that might repulse one or the other? That's why its good to know what you got before you settle for anything!

I heard talking about sex works without having to do the actual act. Let's face it, guys all like the same thing. I have just never been interested in sex and don't want to do that.

Jesus has said if you can't be like me then be married. So all you people that need sex and all that, then just be married. There are some people like myself that are perfectly fine without it.

"Guys all like the same thing"? No, that's not true ... Guys like different things in the bedroom, and so do women. There is a lot of variation in between what people want and like when it comes to sex. People have very different tastes, which is why some people are not sexually compatible - this sort of thing can lead to divorce and adultery ... Different people may also want sex in different amounts. There are some women with higher sex drives than some men. People are really not all the same like that. It's why I'm not just saying "guys aren't the same" ... because everyone is different.

[ElleRich]

I have always believed *bleep* is wrong and you are committing a bad crime/sin.

Please don't go into graphic detail if you do it or not...let's not be perverted.

Do you really think that God cares if we touch our self for pleasure? In my opinion, God has no preference on the subject you posted.

[sarah_hollock]

 If you are actually  asking that  i really would look in to the fact you may not be confortable with your sexual self. Which is normal for someone who was raised to be ashamed of what u do sexually and was taught that was wrong. Its a health factor really. Im assuming you think unmarrital sex is a sin as well and some religions thinks so but why would god allow children brought in this world without poeple being married?

[teflonfanatic]

  That sounds like safe sex to me... If you want to know the answer to this question, ask a clergyman, minister, etc. 

I did some studying on this, it's not the act itself but the reasons why your doing it.  Masturbation is by nature a sexual act and Jesus said...

Matthew 5:27-28 READS

27 “YOU heard that it was said, ‘You must not commit adultery.’ 28 But I say to YOU that everyone that keeps on looking at a woman so as to have a passion for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart.

When someone masturbates do they have a passion for the opposite sex in mind?

[Mkblack]

@teflonfanatic  Ayo u a witness?

[amyrouse]

  That sounds like safe sex to me... If you want to know the answer to this question, ask a clergyman, minister, etc. 

I did some studying on this, it's not the act itself but the reasons why your doing it.  Masturbation is by nature a sexual act and Jesus said...

Matthew 5:27-28 READS

27 “YOU heard that it was said, ‘You must not commit adultery.’ 28 But I say to YOU that everyone that keeps on looking at a woman so as to have a passion for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart.

When someone masturbates do they have a passion for the opposite sex in mind?

So masturbation is not sinful for homosexual men and heterosexual women?  Sweet... I'm safe, then.   

[paleskin04]

Masturbation is pretty natural, animals even do it. If it's a sin then almost everyone in the history of time has committed it lol

[LIZETHZ7304]

lol I love this topic. Hehe. I personally dont know if its a sin or nor anyone have any good answer to this question??

[teflonfanatic]

  That sounds like safe sex to me... If you want to know the answer to this question, ask a clergyman, minister, etc. 

I did some studying on this, it's not the act itself but the reasons why your doing it.  Masturbation is by nature a sexual act and Jesus said...

Matthew 5:27-28 READS

27 “YOU heard that it was said, ‘You must not commit adultery.’ 28 But I say to YOU that everyone that keeps on looking at a woman so as to have a passion for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart.

When someone masturbates do they have a passion for the opposite sex in mind?

So masturbation is not sinful for homosexual men and heterosexual women?  Sweet... I'm safe, then.   

Homosexuality in general is a sin in god's eyes(yes I know it's not political correct but i'm not trying to run for office am I  ) amy read my final sentence again.

When someone masturbates do they have a passion for the opposite sex in mind. This refers to both sexes as having any kind of sexual activity outside of marriage is comdemned as a sin.

@Mkblack: I've studied with the witnesses all my life but i'm not baptized as a JW, i'm still studying with them and attend their meetings etc.

[amyrouse]

  That sounds like safe sex to me... If you want to know the answer to this question, ask a clergyman, minister, etc. 

I did some studying on this, it's not the act itself but the reasons why your doing it.  Masturbation is by nature a sexual act and Jesus said...

Matthew 5:27-28 READS

27 “YOU heard that it was said, ‘You must not commit adultery.’ 28 But I say to YOU that everyone that keeps on looking at a woman so as to have a passion for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart.

When someone masturbates do they have a passion for the opposite sex in mind?

So masturbation is not sinful for homosexual men and heterosexual women?  Sweet... I'm safe, then.   

Homosexuality in general is a sin in god's eyes(yes I know it's not political correct but i'm not trying to run for office am I  ) amy read my final sentence again.

When someone masturbates do they have a passion for the opposite sex in mind. This refers to both sexes as having any kind of sexual activity outside of marriage is comdemned as a sin.

@Mkblack: I've studied with the witnesses all my life but i'm not baptized as a JW, i'm still studying with them and attend their meetings etc.

First, its called a joke.  Second, homosexuality in general is not a sin in g-d's eyes.  There is only one verse that could even be remotely interpreted as anti-homosexual, and it does not declare homosexuality in females as sinful, only that man shall not lie with man as with women as it is contrary to his nature, which can be interpreted differently to different people.  Don't put a blanket statement on it...it is not up for you to decide which interpretation is the correct one for everyone.

Besides that, by what you've stated in your original reply, if someone is jerking off just because it feels good without any thought in their mind, then it is not sinful.  So then, we could go so far as to take that to other sins, couldn't we?  The motivation behind the act does not have any bearing on whether the act is appropriate or not, IMO.  If I kill a man for fun or if I kill a man because he hurt my child, that man is still dead... my motivation does not erase the act.  That is why I believe personal interpretation of the holy books is of utmost importance.  Morality and religion is a personal thing when it comes to specifics such as this, even though there is a common morality as well.

[teflonfanatic]

 That sounds like safe sex to me... If you want to know the answer to this question, ask a clergyman, minister, etc.  

I did some studying on this, it's not the act itself but the reasons why your doing it.  Masturbation is by nature a sexual act and Jesus said...

Matthew 5:27-28 READS

27 “YOU heard that it was said, ‘You must not commit adultery.’ 28 But I say to YOU that everyone that keeps on looking at a woman so as to have a passion for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart.

When someone masturbates do they have a passion for the opposite sex in mind?

So masturbation is not sinful for homosexual men and heterosexual women?  Sweet... I'm safe, then.  

Homosexuality in general is a sin in god's eyes(yes I know it's not political correct but i'm not trying to run for office am I  ) amy read my final sentence again.

When someone masturbates do they have a passion for the opposite sex in mind. This refers to both sexes as having any kind of sexual activity outside of marriage is comdemned as a sin.

@Mkblack: I've studied with the witnesses all my life but i'm not baptized as a JW, i'm still studying with them and attend their meetings etc.

First, its called a joke.  Second, homosexuality in general is not a sin in g-d's eyes.  There is only one verse that could even be remotely interpreted as anti-homosexual, and it does not declare homosexuality in females as sinful, only that man shall not lie with man as with women as it is contrary to his nature, which can be interpreted differently to different people.  Don't put a blanket statement on it...it is not up for you to decide which interpretation is the correct one for everyone.

Besides that, by what you've stated in your original reply, if someone is jerking off just because it feels good without any thought in their mind, then it is not sinful.  So then, we could go so far as to take that to other sins, couldn't we?  The motivation behind the act does not have any bearing on whether the act is appropriate or not, IMO.  If I kill a man for fun or if I kill a man because he hurt my child, that man is still dead... my motivation does not erase the act.  That is why I believe personal interpretation of the holy books is of utmost importance.  Morality and religion is a personal thing when it comes to specifics such as this, even though there is a common morality as well.

Even atheists agree that Leviticus is hard on homosexuals, also ask your Rabbi why Sodom and Gormorrah had the word SODOM in it. I know you don't like the NT but here's a strong verse about the FEMALES AND MALES regrading homosexuality.

Romans 1:26-27 READS 26 That is why God gave them up to disgraceful sexual appetites, for both their females changed the natural use of themselves into one contrary to nature; 27 and likewise even the males left the natural use of the female and became violently inflamed in their lust toward one another, males with males, working what is obscene and receiving in themselves the full recompense, which was due for their error.

"The motivation behind the act does not have any bearing on whether the act is appropriate or not."

Abram(which Abraham was called before he came into a covenant with God) asked his wife Sarai(which Sarah was called before her husband went into a covenant with God) Asked his wife sarai to lie and nothing happened to him let's read Abrams MOTIVATION

Genesis 12:12-13 READS

12 So it is bound to happen that the Egyptians will see you and will say, ‘This is his wife.’ And they will certainly kill me, but you they will preserve alive. 13 Please say you are my sister, in order that it may go well with me on your account, and my soul will be certain to live due to you.”

So he asked his wife to lie for they can live.

"my motivation does not erase the act"

Agreed however repentance might.

[amyrouse]

Marie, you obviously did not read my post.  The verses in the Torah are not specific enough for anyone to claim it condemns homosexuality.

Teflonfanatic... there is a reason why I don't follow the NT, and thus your verse will not hold weight with me... I'm Jewish.  Jews do not follow the teachings of Jesus, because we do not recognize him the way you do.  As for the reason for the name Sodom appearing in the Torah, it is because that was the name of the town.  The term sodomy came from that, not the other way around.